Prospect Info: Florian Xhekaj

[JianYang]

That's not the point I was making. I was pointing out that Gallagher was not the same type of pick at all. He was a highly productive junior player.

Around these parts, you are as good as your last season.

It's as if Gallagher's prime years have been wiped off the hard drive and replaced with the last two years.

Lol. Nilan scored 20 one year, so I'd be thrilled also.

There were three straight where seasons he scored 15-20 goals while playing on a defensive line, and spending an eternity in the penalty box.

It gets overshadowed but nilan could actually play.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

We'll need this type of player eventually. Finding one through draft/development prevents us from overpaying in FA.

If he can become a consistent 4th liner it should be considered a win.

 

[JC Superstar]

I think the term "Mendoza line" from baseball makes for a good metaphor. That is, in baseball, catchers are more valued for their defense than their hitting, but if they hit less than .215, then they're probably not worth having on the team regardless of how good their defense is.

A particular skill might not be a particular player's game, but each player needs to achieve a minimum proficiency in certain particular skills to be adequate in the pros.

Mario Mendoza was a shortstop, the typical exemple of good field no hit. If you want to introduce a similar concept in hockey, I would call it the Locke line: good stats, no intangible.

 

[JC Superstar]

Like I said before and you guys are proving my point, BPA is in the eye of the beholder. We know what HuGo did; what would have TimBer done?

 

[DAChampion]

Mario Mendoza was a shortstop, the typical exemple of good field no hit. If you want to introduce a similar concept in hockey, I would call it the Locke line: good stats, no intangible.

No, the opposite, the idea is that every forward needs a minimum level of offensive effectiveness.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Like I said before and you guys are proving my point, BPA is in the eye of the beholder. We know what HuGo did; what would have TimBer done?

What's actually interesting is that they seemingly picked for BPA "too much" last year, then "not enough" this year. They came into this draft with a load of somewhat similar players in various aspects and a polarized prospect pool (small-ish with skill at forward, most Ds are LD, no goalie). Then, they tried to compensate this year. It seems as though they could've picked different skillsets last year to feel less stuck this year.

 

[yianik]

Around these parts, you are as good as your last season.

It's as if Gallagher's prime years have been wiped off the hard drive and replaced with the last two years.



There were three straight where seasons he scored 15-20 goals while playing on a defensive line, and spending an eternity in the penalty box.

It gets overshadowed but nilan could actually play.

Yes he could. Lol. Shock to many.

I forget who his Habs coach was at first, but Nilan said that coach was a big deal to him because the coach told him he was a hockey player, he could actually play the game and so to not just go out there looking to fight. It was the first times anybody had told him that.

 

[Treb]

Leonard is Gallgher on steroids, with some skill on top.

Well sure, but that would have been with our 5th overall. Mukhanov was available with our 4th or 5th.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Like I said before and you guys are proving my point, BPA is in the eye of the beholder. We know what HuGo did; what would have TimBer done?

Drafted a 5'9 overager with barely better stats than Florian and try to hype him up.

 

[JianYang]

Yes he could. Lol. Shock to many.

I forget who his Habs coach was at first, but Nilan said that coach was a big deal to him because the coach told him he was a hockey player, he could actually play the game and so to not just go out there looking to fight. It was the first times anybody had told him that.

Yeah, he credit Claude ruel, his first coach, but most of all, he credits lemaire, who actually told him that he fights too much. He spent extra time with Nilan after practices to help make him a better player.

 

[yianik]

Yeah, he credit Claude ruel, his first coach, but most of all, he credits lemaire, who actually told him that he fights too much. He spent extra time with Nilan after practices to help make him a better player.

I had it mixed up , you are correct, it was Lemaire. Extra time in practice also. Thanks for correcting that.

 

[Habs]

Well sure, but that would have been with our 5th overall. Mukhanov was available with our 4th or 5th.

Yeah, you need these type of players to get through the season and the playoffs.

 

[MXD]

Yearly reminder that a forward with that junior statline made it to NHL, played 500+ NHL games and was good enough to be entrusted with 15 minutes of icetime per game on a Stanley Cup Winner.

1999-00	17	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	66	9	6	15	-13	96
2000-01	18	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	40	8	8	16	1	106
2001-02	19	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	71	10	17	27	-7	197

 

[Sorinth]

If he makes the NHL it will be because of his physicality, but if he doesn't make the NHL it will be because of a lack of hockey skill/iq.

I don't care too much about points, the growth I most want to see (Well read about as I doubt I'll watch many of his games) is his ability to read the play. Finishing your checks is all well and good, but reading the play so that your body check is timed to cause a turnover is where you'll find NHL value.

 

[DAChampion]

Yearly reminder that a forward with that junior statline made it to NHL, played 500+ NHL games and was good enough to be entrusted with 15 minutes of icetime per game on a Stanley Cup Winner.

1999-00	17	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	66	9	6	15	-13	96
2000-01	18	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	40	8	8	16	1	106
2001-02	19	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	71	10	17	27	-7	197

I didn't realize that Travis Moen and Josh Gorges were on the same junior team.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Yearly reminder that a forward with that junior statline made it to NHL, played 500+ NHL games and was good enough to be entrusted with 15 minutes of icetime per game on a Stanley Cup Winner.

1999-00	17	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	66	9	6	15	-13	96
2000-01	18	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	40	8	8	16	1	106
2001-02	19	Kelowna Rockets	WHL	71	10	17	27	-7	197

We obviously don't know if Florian will pan out. But guys like him, Pez, Luke Tuch, and a few others who might not light it up on the score sheet, you really need to watch them to appreciate some of the things they do. You always want to see them produce, but that isn't uniquely what makes them effective.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I didn't realize that Travis Moen and Josh Gorges were on the same junior team.

Rumor is, one of them even ended up being the captain of that team

 

[Wayfarer13]

Yes he could. Lol. Shock to many.

I forget who his Habs coach was at first, but Nilan said that coach was a big deal to him because the coach told him he was a hockey player, he could actually play the game and so to not just go out there looking to fight. It was the first times anybody had told him that.

Lemaire

 

[Deebs]

We obviously don't know if Florian will pan out. But guys like him, Pez, Luke Tuch, and a few others who might not light it up on the score sheet, you really need to watch them to appreciate some of the things they do. You always want to see them produce, but that isn't uniquely what makes them effective.

For sure. Quality 3rd-4th liners are invaluable to building a playoff team. They have defined roles and if you have those players who are ready to buy into that, they'll bring energy and some additional scoring that is needed for any successful franchise.

 

[LaP]

For sure. Quality 3rd-4th liners are invaluable to building a playoff team. They have defined roles and if you have those players who are ready to buy into that, they'll bring energy and some additional scoring that is needed for any successful franchise.

What is more important is to have them on a near league's minimum contract. Travis Moyen is a good example of that. He was a very good and useful bottom 6 player when he was young and not paid much and worked hard, When he got paid and got older (and paid the price less) he was a far less effective player. The main advantage of developing your own bottom 6 guys is you can have them for cheap fore a few years during the time where they'll bleed to get paid. After that you must let another team pay them and move on to another guy.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Rumor is, one of them even ended up being the captain of that team

Never been corroborated.

 

[montreal]

if he doesn't make the NHL it will be because of a lack of hockey skill/iq.

lack of speed, he's slow for the OHL.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Just realised that even if everything goes well, we may never even get our 4th pick back, if we decide to trade him...

 

[Shred]

The backlash on this pick could have been avoided if they didn't wait until the draft video in September to have our scouts tell us why they selected him.

That was the worst post draft presser in the history of the team. I still don't know what the hell they think of Volokhin, Miller, Harris, Eriksson or Mittelstadt.

No one ever accused Martin Lapointe of being eloquent

 

[BenchBrawl]

Hope he smashes as many faces as his brother.