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Flint Firebirds 2023 - 24 Off-Season Thread

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MJ5 said:
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[TD]Connor Clattenburg - 05 - 60 GP - 29 P[/TD]
[TD]Kaden Pitre 06 - 35 GP - 30 P[/TD]
[TD]Evan Konyen *04* - 55 GP - 48 P[/TD]
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[TD]Nathan Aspinall 06 - 65 GP - 34 P[/TD]
[TD]Jimmy Lombardi 07 - 62 GP - 20 P[/TD]
[TD]Christopher Thibodeau 05 - 68 GP 60 P[/TD]
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[TD]Matthew Wang 05 - 61 GP - 11 P[/TD]
[TD]Gage Brandon - 08 Rookie - 3rd round[/TD]
[TD]Alex Kostov 06 - 66 GP - 26 P[/TD]
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[TD]Jeremy Martin 07 - 64 GP - 14 P[/TD]
[TD]Max Anderson - 07 - 18 GP - 0 P[/TD]
[TD]Cole Zurawski - 08 Rookie - 1st round[/TD]
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[TD]Ryland Cunningham - 08 - Rookie - 2nd round[/TD]
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[TD]LD[/TD]
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[TD]Tristan Bertucci 05 - 61 GP - 44 P[/TD]
[TD]Nathan Day 05[/TD]
[TD]Matthew Mania 05 - 45 GP - 23 P[/TD]
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[TD]Blake Smith *04* - 65 GP - 13 P[/TD]
[TD]Jacob Brown 06[/TD]
[TD]Nolan Collins *04* - 65 GP - 26 P[/TD]
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[TD]Mason Taylor 06 - 3 GP - 0 P[/TD]
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[TD]Rylan Fellinger 07 - 58 GP - 4 P[/TD]
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[TD]Matthew Jenken 05 - 68 P - 18 P[/TD]
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[TD]Jack D'Arcy 07 - 4 GP - 0 P[/TD]
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Lots of right handed defenders now, wondering in Jenken gets moved for something. Fellinger was very solid last year, and only expect him to take bigger strides.

Want list-
1/2 C to pair with Pitre, who just hasn't stayed healthy. Love Lombardi, but don't want to put that much pressure on him too early.

LD - Maybe flip a pick and Jenken for a LD
LW - Maybe. I expect big things from Aspinall, Clattenburg was solid, Martin has a knack for scoring some goals.

Need Nathan Day to take big steps this year.
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An impact centre in the import draft would be ideal.
 
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MJ5 said:
I think Nathan Day is completely fine in net.
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I’m completely fine rolling into next season with Day and Brown. They should be one of the top tandems in the league. As far as the trades go, they seem decent on a quick initial look. I don’t like giving up Ewles though and him being included might tilt the deal Sudbury’s way. I like goaltending and D for next year but they still need a little help at forward. Unless by miracle, Coulson gets returned there’s no game breaker up front. Decent committee for sure but committees don’t usually get it done in the post season. Sure would be nice if McParlan hadn’t spent 6 picks on Peer. Who would have thought? Oh right. Everybody.
 
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You guys will probably get frustrated with Mania. Was not in the long-term plans for the wolves and I can't say I disagree. Hopefully it all works out. I'll check in in the fall to hear your thoughts

Collins solid D for the most part. You'll like him.

Konyen- hard worker
 
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I have no idea why Flint gave up Ewles, after his first 2 weeks I thought he turned into a very solid player.

Klinkhammer is a great personality, great kid. Not much more than a 4th line player.
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This translates for me to them dumping Bertucci and getting alot of these picks back. Likely wanted to get this deal done first, as trading Bertucci to the highest-bidder will be much easier than getting two quality dmen to report like the ones they acquired.
 
BiffTannen said:
This translates for me to them dumping Bertucci and getting alot of these picks back. Likely wanted to get this deal done first, as trading Bertucci to the highest-bidder will be much easier than getting two quality dmen to report like the ones they acquired.
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you guys have Day in net who is an average goalie, with another offseason maybe he becomes above average

Then you have mania and collins that will be apart of your top 4- and you have Bertucci who will probably be getting looked at from team Canada, smith is an alright defensive d man but doesn’t put up any points. That’s a pretty solid top 4 to start out with assuming they make some more trades.

Then you also have 2 import picks to use

Up front Kostov, Lombardi, K Pitre, aspinall all are probably gonna have breakouts on their own. Then you have Thibodeau who will put up 75+ pts and konyen will put up 60+ points.

Id say you guys are in a good position here. Still may be a year too young but you should get top 4/5 in conference atleast. Not sure trading Bertucci would make much sense there after all these moves
 
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BiffTannen said:
This translates for me to them dumping Bertucci and getting alot of these picks back. Likely wanted to get this deal done first, as trading Bertucci to the highest-bidder will be much easier than getting two quality dmen to report like the ones they acquired.
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You might be translating the wrong language. This move means they are trying to win. Trading Bertucci isn't a winning move for more picks.

I don't see them trading Bertucci at all unless this team collapses on the ice.

They have a solid top 4 with him.
 
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StingUpdates said:
I question spending that many picks without getting a sure fire star player, but I agree with what Dirty said. The west Division is gonna be rather bad. Sarnia & Windsor might battle for 2nd & neither team is gonna be legitimately good. Soo rebuilding & SAG returns some good players but likely sell, too.

So it's wide open for Flint. These with other moves will ensure getting a top 2 seed. Gotta keep adding to the F group to be a legit contender but T4 looks strong & now have some depth up front. If Day takes a step you're in a good spot.
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On paper right now, I still think Saginaws returning guys, and Sarnias roster are stronger than Flint’s. With things as is, I see Flint/Windsor battling for 3rd. A lot will change before the season begins though.

And they did bring in 4 solid players, but none really hit the “this is our top guy” narrative for Flint or any other team in the OHL. Any of the guys they acquired could easily be mid-tier 2nd line/2nd pairing options. Thibodeau was the best acquisition so far, but to me I’d be upset if we moved those picks on him. Luckily, high chances of an OA season just due to size.
 
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BiffTannen said:
This translates for me to them dumping Bertucci and getting alot of these picks back. Likely wanted to get this deal done first, as trading Bertucci to the highest-bidder will be much easier than getting two quality dmen to report like the ones they acquired.
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they are definetly not trading bertucci, they may make him captain.

dont be shocked to see owen sound and barlow in the talk with flint in january, just a hunch not a rumour but bertucci and barlow are best friends.
 
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Wolf on a Wire said:
Any insight on Gavin Ewles?
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You’re gonna like him. His first few games in Flint I wasn’t impressed. Forcing plays, creating turnovers and getting beat more often than I would like then after a couple weekends he started to settle down and was fairly impressive down the stretch. He’s not gonna put up a ton of points but he can produce offense. He’s not overly physical either but he’s not soft or afraid to play the body. He’ll make the safe, smart play more often than not and isn’t a liability defensively. He was surely gonna start the season in the top 4 for Flint. I think he’s the perfect D partner for a high offense D that might gamble a bit. Including him in the trade swings it a bit in Sudbury’s favor I believe.

DetSpitsFan said:
On paper right now, I still think Saginaws returning guys, and Sarnias roster are stronger than Flint’s. With things as is, I see Flint/Windsor battling for 3rd. A lot will change before the season begins though.

And they did bring in 4 solid players, but none really hit the “this is our top guy” narrative for Flint or any other team in the OHL. Any of the guys they acquired could easily be mid-tier 2nd line/2nd pairing options. Thibodeau was the best acquisition so far, but to me I’d be upset if we moved those picks on him. Luckily, high chances of an OA season just due to size.
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Who on Sarnia’s roster are you looking at? Saginaw loses a LOT and Drinkell isn’t stupid. He’ll be moving a couple more out before the year is over. Windsor has a lot of questions in net and on the blueline. They’re gonna need to add if they want to make playoffs.
 
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Savard18 said:
You’re gonna like him. His first few games in Flint I wasn’t impressed. Forcing plays, creating turnovers and getting beat more often than I would like then after a couple weekends he started to settle down and was fairly impressive down the stretch. He’s not gonna put up a ton of points but he can produce offense. He’s not overly physical either but he’s not soft or afraid to play the body. He’ll make the safe, smart play more often than not and isn’t a liability defensively. He was surely gonna start the season in the top 4 for Flint. I think he’s the perfect D partner for a high offense D that might gamble a bit. Including him in the trade swings it a bit in Sudbury’s favor I believe.


Who on Sarnia’s roster are you looking at? Saginaw loses a LOT and Drinkell isn’t stupid. He’ll be moving a couple more out before the year is over. Windsor has a lot of questions in net and on the blueline. They’re gonna need to add if they want to make playoffs.
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Thanks for the Ewles assessment, much appreciated. Have a great summer.
 
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HockeyPops said:
Congrats to the Everblades, but I have a hard time seeing the relevancy to this thread?
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I believe they are saying that Rolf needs to take notes from teams in his back yard on how to create a championship team. Plus IIRC the poster attends ECHL games in florida (either solar bears or everblades).
 
HockeyPops said:
Congrats to the Everblades, but I have a hard time seeing the relevancy to this thread?
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Always trolling. Never brings anything to this thread.
Kingpin794 said:
I believe they are saying that Rolf needs to take notes from teams in his back yard on how to create a championship team. Plus IIRC the poster attends ECHL games in florida (either solar bears or everblades).
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She's claimed the ECHL was coming to Flint for about 6 years now.

Claimed to have tons of insider information. How everyone and their cousin wanted out yet no one ever mentioned by her got traded.

Not sure how they let her stick around with all the fake information.
 
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The RELAVANCY of it all is that Flint Firebirds owner Rolf Nilsen's own business and home is in the backyard of Hertz Arena home of the Florida Everblades. When Nilsen was looking to purchase a hockey team, the Florida Everblades were one of the teams on his list. Thank God that did not happen fore the great hockey fans of SW Florida would not today be celebrating 3-peat championships.
 
How to assemble a winning ECHL roster and franchise has very little to do with how to assemble a winning OHL team. London or Hamilton/Brantford would be much more relevant currently. When Rolf was looking to buy a hockey team, he was looking for a team to place Hakon on. I don’t think he was eyeballing ECHL for his 17yo boy, besides even Hakon could probably earn his own way onto an ECHL roster.
 
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