Flint Firebirds 2022 Off-season Thread

[MJ5]

 

[TcNorth]

I really like having a Assistant General Manager to help Ted Dent with everything he had on his plate.

 

[FireBird71]

What's up with the CHL? No LIVE coverage of the Memorial Cup in the States? The NHL Network is showing a pre-game for game 3 of the Stanley Cup. Our suite here at Amalie is transmitting the TSN feed.

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What's up with the CHL? No LIVE coverage of the Memorial Cup in the States? The NHL Network is showing a pre-game for game 3 of the Stanley Cup. Our suite here at Amalie is transmitting the TSN feed.

NHL Network…but not last night

 

[N Da No]

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NHL Network…but not last night

Yes, I later found out that Memorial Cup games that coincidence with Stanley Cup games would be taped delayed on the NHL Network. Dates of Memorial Cup games with no Stanley Cup game will be shown live on the NHL Network.

 

[sbpointer]

can you get it live on CHLTV?

 

[HockeyPops]

I believe you can for a small fee

 

[MJ5]

 

[TcNorth]

Big kid. We will see what he’s got. Welcome!

 

[MJ5]

I think my list of "possibilities" are as follows. Obviously some of these guys probably won't be available, but its a list loaded with OA's.

Joe Ranger OA*
Marco Costantini OA*
Anson Thornton
Joe Vrbetic OA*
Xavier Medina OA*
Nick Chenard OA* (But I feel like Owen Sound will be a contender)
Mathias Onuska OA*
Will Cranley OA*
Tristan Lennox OA*
Tynan Tucker OA*

Really wish that would have been us.

 

[OHL4Life]

Really wish that would have been us.

i think you have a done deal to be annouced for an 02 goalie coming



mentioned this yesterday in the ottawa forum

 

[MJ5]

i think you have a done deal to be annouced for an 02 goalie coming



mentioned this yesterday in the ottawa forum

I hope you are right! Hope the price is the same as this one too.



And there it is!

15th Rounder makes me think he will be turning pro tho.

 

[Savard18]

I don’t like that at all. I haven’t seen him play much but his numbers are far from great. Throw in he’ll be taking up an OA spot too. Flint already has to jettison two of Piercey, Deline, Panwar, Terry and Mayotte. Now it’s 3 of them for a kid that had a 3.81GAA and a .873 save%? This is their year if Othmann returns. As much as I like their potential, Day, Michelone, Nixon (who they signed) won’t be ready to take the reigns of a Championship run next year. Goalies are NEVER all that expensive. Go get Thornton from Sarnia. Or if it’s an OA, he better be lights out because your basically giving up Panwar or Terry or Piercey in that trade. Spend. If you have to follow the Hamilton model and strip the cupboard bare to get there, then do it. There’s enough 17-18yo talent to trade back those picks quickly.

 

[MJ5]

I don’t like that at all. I haven’t seen him play much but his numbers are far from great. Throw in he’ll be taking up an OA spot too. Flint already has to jettison two of Piercey, Deline, Panwar, Terry and Mayotte. Now it’s 3 of them for a kid that had a 3.81GAA and a .873 save%? This is their year if Othmann returns. As much as I like their potential, Day, Michelone, Nixon (who they signed) won’t be ready to take the reigns of a Championship run next year. Goalies are NEVER all that expensive. Go get Thornton from Sarnia. Or if it’s an OA, he better be lights out because your basically giving up Panwar or Terry or Piercey in that trade. Spend. If you have to follow the Hamilton model and strip the cupboard bare to get there, then do it. There’s enough 17-18yo talent to trade back those picks quickly.

Would have rather had Ranger for the 4th personally.

Thornton went to Barrie for a 2, 3, & 5.

 

[TcNorth]

Can and would we still trade for another goalie who isnt an OA Or will Canley be our new #1 is he is assigned here?

 

[MJ5]

Can and would we still trade for another goalie who isnt an OA Or will Canley be our new #1 is he is assigned here?

I think Cranley will be the #1 if assigned.

Don't think they trade for another goalie and waste an OA spot on A backup.

 

[Savard18]

I think Cranley will be the #1 if assigned.

Don't think they trade for another goalie and waste an OA spot on A backup.

With those numbers I think Day can take the job from him and they’re basically trading Panwar or Piercey for him. Not good. They should have pushed for Thornton even if they had to give up a little more to convince Sarnia to leave him in Conference.

 

[MJ5]

With those numbers I think Day can take the job from him and they’re basically trading Panwar or Piercey for him. Not good. They should have pushed for Thornton even if they had to give up a little more to convince Sarnia to leave him in Conference.

Obviously St. Louis saw something in him, drafting and SIGNING him. So he's gotta have some potential in there, maybe Greg Steffan can find it. It's a very low risk, high reward possibility. If not, you play a month or 2 with him, if he can't figure it out, you release him, you lost a 15th rounder. Trade for another OA from someone else.

 

[OHL4Life]

Obviously St. Louis saw something in him, drafting and SIGNING him. So he's gotta have some potential in there, maybe Greg Steffan can find it. It's a very low risk, high reward possibility. If not, you play a month or 2 with him, if he can't figure it out, you release him, you lost a 15th rounder. Trade for another OA from someone else.

its a conditional 15th, if he plays a game for flint itll be much more then a 15th, maybe a 3rd?

 

[MJ5]

its a conditional 15th, if he plays a game for flint itll be much more then a 15th, maybe a 3rd?

The conditionals can change value? All these trades you see them posted as what I would assume the value would be.

Zito trade today has 2 conditionals a 4 and a 5.

Last year when we traded for Bertuzzi it was announced as a conditional 4th and 7th, that was if he reported.

 

[dirty12]

The conditionals can change value? All these trades you see them posted as what I would assume the value would be.

Zito trade today has 2 conditionals a 4 and a 5.

Last year when we traded for Bertuzzi it was announced as a conditional 4th and 7th, that was if he reported.

*15th trade occurs often. I would expect a 4th + if with the firebirds beyond the cut-off date of being able to roster more than 3 OAs

 

[OHL4Life]

The conditionals can change value? All these trades you see them posted as what I would assume the value would be.

Zito trade today has 2 conditionals a 4 and a 5.

Last year when we traded for Bertuzzi it was announced as a conditional 4th and 7th, that was if he reported.

flint doesnt post them, probably because they are entirely based on if the player comes or not. do you honestly believe that a signed nhl goalie prospect is only worth a 15th round pick? just use some logic on this one.

i was told its a 3rd and 5th if he plays. for whatever reason they didnt publish it.

 

[MJ5]

flint doesnt post them, probably because they are entirely based on if the player comes or not. do you honestly believe that a signed nhl goalie prospect is only worth a 15th round pick? just use some logic on this one.

i was told its a 3rd and 5th if he plays. for whatever reason they didnt publish it.

I assumed since he was signed he was going pro, and Flint was just taking a flyer on his rights. His numbers are bad tho, if its a 3rd and 5th, they got absolutely robbed. Would have much rather had Ranger for a 4th.

 

[OHL4Life]

I assumed since he was signed he was going pro, and Flint was just taking a flyer on his rights. His numbers are bad tho, if its a 3rd and 5th, they got absolutely robbed. Would have much rather had Ranger for a 4th.

3rd and a 5th are involved, 2024, just dont know if its both or individal based on performance. im not sold ranger is all that good either to be honest, he was waived a year ago and was out of the league.

 

[MJ5]

3rd and a 5th are involved, 2024, just dont know if its both or individal based on performance. im not sold ranger is all that good either to be honest, he was waived a year ago and was out of the league.

Just saying side by side on paper, Ranger >>>>> Cranley easily.
Obviously we didn't get to see either of them this year in Flint. But a big fan of Ranger's save % compared to Cranley's.

 

[OHL4Life]

Just saying side by side on paper, Ranger >>>>> Cranley easily.
Obviously we didn't get to see either of them this year in Flint. But a big fan of Ranger's save % compared to Cranley's.

keep in mind mississauga is a better team and generally the better team you have, the better save percentage you have. im not saying one is better then the other, but its way closer then you think imo. i mean look at cavlans stats before this year