Flint Firebirds 2022-23 Off-Season Thread

[dirty12]

Wasn't initially called by either ref on the ice.

They had to have a conference before they made a call and reviewed it.

If he gets up, there is absolutely no call made, but he laid on the ice, got helped to the locker room, waited until they made the call and came right back out.

I’m not sure the refs had a different angle to review.
To make up for calling the 5 min. major of a hit they might not have even seen, the refs give Saginaw a penalty for Giroux’s unsportsmanlike embellishment.
Of all the questionable refereeing these playoffs, that sequence was worst of all imo.

 

[bcspragu]

So you didn’t really see the brutal, brutal bit either.

Not sure what that means. Was just the only video of the hit I could find on twitter. Not sure where the check to the head came from they called. To be honest blindsiding (what originally was listed online and this seems like a textbook example of) or interference (that angle makes it look like Parekh doesnt touch the puck before Piercey makes contact) make far more sense for penalty calls. Would have to see another angle to be sure.

On a side note dont OHL officials have to video review 5 min major calls? Seems like maybe they have a different angle we havent seen, but then again nothing surprises me anymore

 

[Hockytwn51419]

Not sure what that means. Was just the only video of the hit I could find on twitter. Not sure where the check to the head came from they called. To be honest blindsiding (what originally was listed online and this seems like a textbook example of) or interference (that angle makes it look like Parekh doesnt touch the puck before Piercey makes contact) make far more sense for penalty calls. Would have to see another angle to be sure.

On a side note dont OHL officials have to video review 5 min major calls? Seems like maybe they have a different angle we havent seen, but then again nothing surprises me anymore

Yes they review 5 minute major calls to make sure it warrants the penalty, problem is there was no initial call on this to review.

 

[dirty12]

Not sure what that means. Was just the only video of the hit I could find on twitter. Not sure where the check to the head came from they called. To be honest blindsiding (what originally was listed online and this seems like a textbook example of) or interference (that angle makes it look like Parekh doesnt touch the puck before Piercey makes contact) make far more sense for penalty calls. Would have to see another angle to be sure.

On a side note dont OHL officials have to video review 5 min major calls? Seems like maybe they have a different angle we havent seen, but then again nothing surprises me anymore

That was the only angle shown and possibly seen by anyone. You see a split second with contact, no real proof of where each player came from or where they were looking, what their intentions could have been
…interpretation of incidental contact? From what I see, there is no way to say for sure.

 

[bcspragu]

That was the only angle shown and possibly seen by anyone. You see a split second with contact, no real proof of where each player came from or where they were looking, what their intentions could have been
…interpretation of incidental contact? From what I see, there is no way to say for sure.

Im seriously asking because you seem to know more on this board than most. You are saying you see no head contact, blind siding, or interference in this clip at all or just you cant tell weather it was intentional or not? Because I agree that makes a big difference. Im on the fence about the major call (although in my opinion it was a dumb situation to potentially put your team in the playoffs in ot in regardless) but its homerism aside it was clearly a 2 minute penalty with a take your pick of blindsiding, interference, or maybe even head contact call. It could fit all 3 criteria.

 

[dirty12]

Im seriously asking because you seem to know more on this board than most. You are saying you see no head contact, blind siding, or interference in this clip at all or just you cant tell weather it was intentional or not? Because I agree that makes a big difference. Im on the fence about the major call (although in my opinion it was a dumb situation to potentially put your team in the playoffs in ot in regardless) but its homerism aside it was clearly a 2 minute penalty with a take your pick of blindsiding, interference, or maybe even head contact call. It could fit all 3 criteria.

Oh, I see contact; and, I think Piercy was ready for contact. I just can’t say whether (Piercy was going for a hit of an unsuspecting player?) or simply braced himself for contact; and, I cannot say if the Spirit player is at fault for skating into Piercy.
I will never say it is up the player aware of contact to get out of the other’s path. Never, ever should a player be assessed a major for bracing for contact imo. I believe Piercy should be sure he is not hurt in any way from contact in that situation. If that means shoulder to the body of a player that should know where he is going, so be it.

 

[CarriageRider]

So you didn’t really see the brutal, brutal bit either.

It's interesting that a 4-game suspension hit to the head elicits a "bad" adjective from Stings Updates but this gets a "brutal, brutal".

 

[MJ5]

It's interesting that a 4-game suspension hit to the head elicits a "bad" adjective from Stings Updates but this gets a "brutal, brutal".

The Flop got him as well.

 

[StingUpdates]

This is a much better shot of the play. Piercey knows what he is doing. No doubt about it. Blindsiding, interference whatever you wanna call it.

Can argue a 5 or not, sure but it's a penalty. I'm the first to hate on the refs most nights, but with just in the last 2 weeks there's been 3 or 4 concussions from very similar plays that all got major penalties.

 

[MJ5]

This is a much better shot of the play. Piercey knows what he is doing. No doubt about it. Blindsiding, interference whatever you wanna call it.

Can argue a 5 or not, sure but it's a penalty. I'm the first to hate on the refs most nights, but with just in the last 2 weeks there's been 3 or 4 concussions from very similar plays that all got major penalties.

Flop

 

[StingUpdates]

Flop

I would be incredibly impressed if Parekh (16 & 160 pounds) could absorb a blindside hit (when he doesn't have the puck & has no idea a hit is coming) from a guy who's 6'3/6'4 & 40 pounds heavier.

Is what it is now. See if he is suspended or if he can help u guys make a big comeback.

 

[OHL Fan]

I would be incredibly impressed if Parekh (16 & 160 pounds) could absorb a blindside hit (when he doesn't have the puck & has no idea a hit is coming) from a guy who's 6'3/6'4 & 40 pounds heavier.

Is what it is now. See if he is suspended or if he can help u guys make a big comeback.

There was intent by Piercey to braze him but not maliciously hurt him. I think he crossed the line not maliciously. Penalty has to be called but 5 min major? There should be a suspension that follows I would assume.

No one deserves to get hurt intentionally, but some players push and goat opposing players and then turtle or skate away. Did you see what he did to 93 in the 3rd period in front of the net without the puck. Parekh attacked maliciously Flint's best player who is not a pest or dirty player.

We cannot look at sizes of the players in this situation or any, because if that were the case tell Parekh to go play in a league with smaller players or non contact league. He can dish it out dirty wise and then skates away.

 

[bcspragu]

This is a much better shot of the play. Piercey knows what he is doing. No doubt about it. Blindsiding, interference whatever you wanna call it.

Can argue a 5 or not, sure but it's a penalty. I'm the first to hate on the refs most nights, but with just in the last 2 weeks there's been 3 or 4 concussions from very similar plays that all got major penalties.

100% Blindside and Interference based on that 2nd angle. Probably head contact as well. Anyone who doesnt think thats a penalty needs to take off the homer glasses for a moment. 5 min vs 2 minute can be debated sure but clearly Piercey was trying to take a run there

 

[MJ5]

100% Blindside and Interference based on that 2nd angle. Probably head contact as well. Anyone who doesnt think thats a penalty needs to take off the homer glasses for a moment. 5 min vs 2 minute can be debated sure but clearly Piercey was trying to take a run there

 

[dirty12]

100% Blindside and Interference based on that 2nd angle. Probably head contact as well. Anyone who doesnt think thats a penalty needs to take off the homer glasses for a moment. 5 min vs 2 minute can be debated sure but clearly Piercey was trying to take a run there

It looks to me that Piercey wanted to go to the left boards through an accidental yet perfectly set pick. Flint got jobbed imo. It’s no wonder Piercey was livid. What I see was 100% interference by a completely oblivious Perekh.

 

[swoopster]

It was a bad call. Parekh was so concentrating on getting a pass back... look at his stick position, he never looked at what was in front of him. I don't think there was intent and he did indeed get his bell rung, but his on ice focus was clearly on getting a return pass.

 

[Firebird Fan26]

It was a bad call. Parekh was so concentrating on getting a pass back... look at his stick position, he never looked at what was in front of him. I don't think there was intent

It was a bad call. Parekh was so concentrating on getting a pass back... look at his stick position, he never looked at what was in front of him. I don't think there was intent and he did indeed get his bell rung, but his on ice focus was clearly on getting a return pass.

Parekh played the refs well, went down like he was hurt then he lifted his looking around to see what was going to happen. Then after he drew the call laid there. If he was hurt he should have went thru concussion protocol in which he returned way too soon
and he did indeed get his bell rung, but his on ice focus was clearly on getting a return pass.

 

[MJ5]

Suspensions page updated, and nothing for Piercey.

 

[Hockytwn51419]

No Coulson or Braeden.

 

[MJ5]

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No Coulson or Braeden.

Kressler thing is just weird.

Running out of bodies, this shows 8 dmen dressing.

 

[Hockytwn51419]

Kressler thing is just weird.

Running out of bodies, this shows 8 dmen dressing.

Very weird.

Wonder what his thought process on the 8 D is?

 

[MJ5]

Very weird.

Wonder what his thought process on the 8 D is?

Obviously running thin on bodies.

I don't remember seeing anything with Pitre the other night.

 

[Savard18]

Watching the anthem….impressive they got Billy Squire to sing.

 

[MJ5]

Hayes with zero points, yikes. I knew he was struggling this series. Didn't look to know it was that bad.

 

[Hockytwn51419]

Obviously running thin on bodies.

I don't remember seeing anything with Pitre the other night.

I don’t remember if anything happened with Coulson either.