From watching on the tube, it seems like Othmann challenged Flint heavyweight Giroux.
He was invisible last nt except for misconduct.
He was invisible last nt except for misconduct.
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For real. There’s long stretches where he just looks like a dominant, complete power forward and then there’s long stretches with almost no offensive production. I shouldn’t necessarily say production because he’s been getting tons of chances and producing in other ways but man. If he could just be finishing 1/4 of his high danger chances….
Eating and sleeping habits take a toll, look at his eyes the circles show not enough rest.
when that changes the play changes and becomes faster and productive
As an endurance athlete I can attest how true that is and I REALLY hope that isn’t that big of an issue with him. If they’re gonna talk about Pro habits on this team those are two big ones. They may not be as important at 20 as they are at 30 or my age but they still are.
Last night wasn’t that bad. Back to back, on the road, 12 hours? from home, back up goalie, no Kressler, no Guryev, Smith in his second game for the team and they had it handled for the first 38 minutes until an opportune/lucky goal, then a fluke goal changed the momentum. Pretty unlucky goal in the 3rd too with Day knocking one in his net. Despite the fact, those goals count just as much as the rest and you often create your own luck, I thought Day played solid for most of the game. It was better. Dent was just rolling lines all night too. I couldn’t believe how much ice he gave Aspinall, Kaden, Jenken, Klinkhammer and they held in there for most of the game. With “as is” rosters, Ottawa wouldn’t scare me in a 7 game series. A challenge for sure but they wouldn’t scare me.
Something I forgot to mention. Really liked the 1st intermission interview with Cranley during the Ottawa game. I know the schedule worked out where if made sense to play Day but it must have been disappointing to not start vs his old team. Very professional interview with a lot of interesting comments and nice things to be said about the Firebirds org and Flint. Both goalies have been improving and I really want Will to prove my doubts wrong. Also mildly surprised to see Othmann’s production be completely unimpressive with the high quality linemates he has. 8 games. 2 meaningless goals and 8 pts. Minus 3.
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Unimpressive right up until the inevitable string of multi goal games apparently.
It’s amazing to me how final verdicts can be made from very small samples
Yes, he’ll surely start producing more at some point but 8 games isn’t nothing. Look at who his linemates are and the forwards he’s surrounded by. He’s the second highest drafted 19yo forward in the league playing with the 3rd highest. When he was traded was anybody thinking or saying “Peterborough just picked up a point per game forward.”? Othmann should be producing at 1.5 up to nearly 2.0 ppg average . Those two goals in 8 games? The 4th goal in a 4-0 win and the one against Flint was a tip or tap in after Flint already had established a 6-3 lead. I expected him to be clipping at a much higher pace and I was fairly concerned he was gonna light Will Cranley and Flint up. He didn’t. He was a point and half per game player in Flint last year and was this year too. So yes, that’s unimpressive. I mean is anybody saying “Brennan Othmann has been IMPRESSIVE since moving to Peterborough.” Good chance they may but they haven’t yet.
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Does anyone think that top league scorers don't benefit from empty netters and other easy points? Of course not. They benefit disproportionately from them in actuality because they are out there protecting a lead on most contenders. In fact, maybe Othmann is at only a point per game because he "only" got 2 if them in this stretch. If he plays the rest of the season and averages a point per game, it will be unimpressive.
But 8 games? Come on. New city, new billets, new coaches, new teammates. If he was 4 points in 8 games, sure. But honestly, this being brought up by a Flint fan at this stage just sounds like sour grapes, nothing more.
But 8 games? Come on. New city, new billets, new coaches, new teammates. If he was 4 points in 8 games, sure. But honestly, this being brought up by a Flint fan at this stage just sounds like sour grapes, nothing more.
Brennan Othmann with a pivotal secondary assist on a power play goal today in the Pete’s 6-2 loss as he continues his league destroying point per game pace. I’m just messing with ya. I don’t hate the kid. I’ve said as much and I don’t mind the the fire he has in his game either. I’m sure he’ll come back from WJC and produce on his way to a lengthy NHL career. Did we already forget a month ago when he was traded? Pete’s are gonna win the Memorial Cup, Othmann with Robertson and Stillman is gonna be unstoppable. Flint is gonna fall apart. Flint in sell mode. C’mon man, this is what you predicted out of him? I didn’t. So I pointed out I find it surprising. It’s 9 games. Over 1/8 of a season. Sasha Pastujov. The winger I wanted on the team before and after Brennan was traded has 7g and 11a for 18pts in 10 games with his new line mates, billets, coach etc. That’s the kind of production you should expect from Othmann. Half that is surprising. I can only imagine the talk if Flint lost 5 of 6 with him producing like that.
8 pts in 8games is not horrible but underwhelming for a star.
I think with Flint he played full 2 mins on PP and top 5 on 5 mins and pk. Everything seemed to pass through Othmann and thus the great points and goals.
With Petes, there are alot more forward stars with pedigree and thus Othmann is just another good forward on the team.
I would assume if you looked at the avg mins played per game in Flint, would be alot higher than Petes.
I think with Flint he played full 2 mins on PP and top 5 on 5 mins and pk. Everything seemed to pass through Othmann and thus the great points and goals.
With Petes, there are alot more forward stars with pedigree and thus Othmann is just another good forward on the team.
I would assume if you looked at the avg mins played per game in Flint, would be alot higher than Petes.
The Petes accepted two forwards from a Flint team loaded at forward wanting to improve the defence.
Othman is right now the best player on the Petes roster. The play will flow through through the dominant player or his worth will not be fully realized. Othman can play with anyone imo. It will take some time for the previously dominant Robertson, and Avon, Lockhart …during line changes to learn how to effectively feed off the best player they have ever teamed with.
If Robertson cannot be at his best with Othman and Othman disrupts chemistry, the Petes will have to adjust lines; maybe Panwar, maybe Wright should be his centre.
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I assume that’s true. He probably was getting more minutes in Flint. You’d just think with a shot like his, it’d almost just be a matter of getting the puck on his stick in the Ozone would result in more than two goals. There is talk in the Pete’s thread of their record since his acquisition and him apparently getting into it with Cameron post game. I was concerned the trade would have him dial the extra stuff back and ignite him to even new heights. So far, that doesn’t seem to be the case.
10 games now and 9 pts.
His 2 linemates Hayes and Lombardi since his departure from their line have 9 and 18 points respectively in 11 games. Seems like they have moved forward.
I guess with your reasoning, any players that go to WJ and only have a few weeks to perform, with new environment, new roommates, new coaches and new arenas will not do well.
Othmann is an experienced OHL player and has seen all environments and situations and will figure it out.
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I think it's 9 games 9 pts.
I never said they will not do well. Just recognizing that each situation is unique and to temper expectations as a result. Peterborough as a team has not played well either as of late, they have a lot bigger problems right now than Othmann's 1.0 ppg.
Last 9 games:
Othmann 9 pts
Lockhard 5 pts
Robertson 5 pts
Avon 10 pts
Stillman 8 pts
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I don't know if it's because it's my first year as a season ticket holder, but they've really seemed to up their marketing this season. I love it.
Also those jerseys look great.
Also those jerseys look great.
Their social media game has definitely stepped it up.
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