Post-Game Talk: Flightless Jets (Avro Arrow) beat the Lowly Habs

OldCraig71

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While I agree that a solid defender (especially on the right) would be really helpful, the biggest problem right now is that the top 6 only has 2 top 6 players. Our “second line” is objectively worse than our 4th line. It is terrible. These guys are supposed to be important parts of our core going forward and they are playing like plugs. As a result of these guys being the jewels of the new management, there is next to no accountability for this play. Our “second line Center” has 9 points and is -21 after 30 games! Suzuki is +1 with the same defense. Evans is -4 with d-zone starts and the same defense. There is a big fat hole in our lineup and it couldn’t be more obvious if it came in with a marching band.


You should post more often. People who are defending Dach are overlooking this bit of information right here. Excellent post. The problem with the team is on the second line, it's one of the biggest reasons why we are so bad.
 

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Yea, if the team sport psychologist is the same guy that was being very cringe during the draft interviews on "the rebuild" show, then that would explain a lot :laugh:
There's that one, but I believe he's part time. I don't know if they have a full-time one, but they should. That paycholgical work has to be integrated on practice and development, just like Adam Nicholas is integrated. They need someone who has a fighter mentality that can instill killer instinct, along with a host of other paychological tools.
 

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You should post more often. People who are defending Dach are overlooking this bit of information right here. Excellent post. The problem with the team is on the second line, it's one of the biggest reasons why we are so bad.

I still try to be hopeful for Dach but he is getting way more opportunity than he deserves right now. He is not alone though…. Slaf is not cutting it. Newhook is not cutting it. Laine has a ton of rust. Together the second line is a disaster, and they keep being rolled out as though everything is fine.
There needs to be some accountability, and we need to find a way to put these guys in a position to succeed because it is a mess. This is literally our young forward core. The mythical accelerated rebuild. This is the sum total of what our new management has brought to the nhl and it is looking poor. Dach getting caved in every night won’t make him a better center and it won’t make us a better team.
 

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I still try to be hopeful for Dach but he is getting way more opportunity than he deserves right now. He is not alone though…. Slaf is not cutting it. Newhook is not cutting it. Laine has a ton of rust. Together the second line is a disaster, and they keep being rolled out as though everything is fine.
They’re rolled out because it’s all we have.
There needs to be some accountability, and we need to find a way to put these guys in a position to succeed because it is a mess. This is literally our young forward core. The mythical accelerated rebuild. This is the sum total of what our new management has brought to the nhl and it is looking poor. Dach getting caved in every night won’t make him a better center and it won’t make us a better team.
They could bench Dach for a game or two… but honestly, the only way to really fix this is a trade or bringing up someone like Beck (which I would not do.)

A trade is probably the right way to go. Then you can dump Dvorak and move Dach to the 3rd.
 
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Unclewhalebone

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They’re rolled out because it’s all we have.
This is true. For me though, the role has to change. Maybe Dach needs to move down to a lesser role for a dozen games. Play different competition. I don’t think it is only Dach either, but he definitely stands out.
They could bench Dach for a game or two… but honestly, the only way to really fix this is a trade or bringing up someone like Beck (which I would not do.)

A trade is probably the right way to go. Then you can dump Dvorak and move Dach to the 3rd.
Yeah, I really wouldn’t bring up anyone from Laval. Let those guys learn and excel against competition and grow as a team.
It is disappointing that we could really use the Dvorak that he was claimed to be when we got him. A trade might be the way; we are going to be at risk of a hole at center next year as it stands anyway. We can’t go in hoping to play Suzuki, Dach, Beck, Kap…. and think we will be “In the mix” for anything but more high picks.
 

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I think they should shuffle lines more than just put Dach lower, I would go something like:

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Laine-Evans-Anderson
Gallagher-Dach-Heineman
Armia-Newhook-Dvorak
 
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Unclewhalebone

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I think they should shuffle lines more than just put Dach lower, I would go something like:

CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Laine-Evans-Anderson
Gallagher-Dach-Heineman
Armia-Newhook-Dvorak
I think I would leave Dvorak at center and Newhook at wing, but definitely would shuffle the lines. I don't thing Slaf's spot on the 1st line should be secure either.
 

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You should post more often. People who are defending Dach are overlooking this bit of information right here. Excellent post. The problem with the team is on the second line, it's one of the biggest reasons why we are so bad.
Dach is struggling for sure but the longer he plays healthy this season, the greater the return for him, should Hughes choose to go that route … and replace him with a Quartexx client. 💀
 

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