Flames vs. Refs?

[Altimus]

Clearly, I mean Ottawa scored twice even strenght and once short handed. Refs clearly wanted them to win. They scripted it perfectly.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Not the refs fault that Huberdeau thought selling the call was more important than playing hockey in OT

Yeah that was bad

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Your player literally kicked the puck into the net and they reviewed it as a good goal.

It was no worse than Batherson's goal against Pittsburgh imo.

Reffing is just hard and/or bad

 

[Jumptheshark]

How is Calgary getting too many missed calls? This has been going on since their first Ottawa game where the Sens were given more power plays than they deserved.

What did Calgary do to deserve such treatement? It's not 2016 anymore. They don't employ Dennis Wideman anymore. The players on the team are okay (Kadri hasn't been as edgy as he once was in Toronto and Colorado) and Calgary will open up a new arena in 2027 (I remembered certain fans claiming one of the reasons the Flames got harsh calls in the mid 2010's was because they can't get a sensible arena deal done...).

It doesn't make sense.

swing by the oiler board and get their view of the refs

 

[koyvoo]

swing by the oiler board and get their view of the refs

Every fanbase on these boards is convinced the league has an agenda against them. Also that the officiating in general is poor, but beyond that, that their team in particular is being targeted.

 

[TBF1972]

Fixed

and when two canadian teams playing each other? is there always a more canadian team?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I didn't see the game, but let's just say the Flames did get f***ed and the Sens benefited from it.

In the near future the Flames will benefit from the refs and the sens will get f***ed.

And so on and so on.

The officials are massively incompetent.

 

[JianYang]

So here is the rule for you:

https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/public/ext/2023-24/2023-24Rulebook.pdf

I don't really like the wording of this rule. It talks about a distinct kicking motion but fails to provide a clear definition of what that actually looks like. That's why the calls can be so inconsistent as to what constitutes a kick.

 

[FlyguyOX]

The refs suck in general across the whole f***ing league.

This. Michkov gets after whistle blatant bs like this every other game with no calls:

 

[Sting]

I'm all for teams sticking up for themselves re: bad calls but the overtime whining by the Flames last night was a bit much. The call that Huberdeau believes he should have gotten simply does not get called a lot of the time based on the play. Not only was the play happening incredibly fast, it was not very apparent that a) there was any type of high-stick and b) whose stick it was. Instead he lied on the ice and just kept giving it to the ref while the Sens score the other way.

For your entire team to stick around after you lost the game hoping the refs overturn a call like that just screams losing mentality. Surely they know how many plays like that don't get called, and they'd also know that calls that shouldn't be called (ie the Flames goal) do.

Edit: Actually, funny enough, I re-watched the clip and it looks like Huberdeau skates himself into the post and stumbles. Doesn't look like Sanderson caused that. Makes it even more cringe.

 

[Flamingo]

That wasn't so bad, if it was anything at all. Calgary and their local media making a fuss over nothing. Save it for a game when you actually do get jobbed.

 

[Mattilaus]

Flames aren't even that bad when it comes to penalties. They are 12 in the league for number of penalty kill opportunities. Barely even bottom half. There are 11 teams who get more penalties. For powerplay opportunities they are 24th so 8 teams in the league get fewer powerplays. The Kings get both less powerplays and more penalties than the flames but they don't seem to be complaining.

 

[Toby91ca]

This. Michkov gets after whistle blatant bs like this every other game with no calls:

What penalty call are you looking for here? It's after the whistle, would have to be a pretty aggressive infraction to call a penalty. Tripping isn't really a possible penalty call in that situation.

 

[hangman005]

That wasn't so bad, if it was anything at all. Calgary and their local media making a fuss over nothing. Save it for a game when you actually do get jobbed.

Like Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

 

[FlyguyOX]

What penalty call are you looking for here? It's after the whistle, would have to be a pretty aggressive infraction to call a penalty. Tripping isn't really a possible penalty call in that situation.

Roughing. How is intentionally tripping a guy after the whistle not a penalty.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I always feel like people who complain they are constantly being targeted by refs/NHL/etc are just victims or aren't able to see it happens to all teams

No people who don't see it is because they only watch their own teams games,

 

[Bender Duster]

and when two canadian teams playing each other? is there always a more canadian team?

Obviously that’s when the market size consideration factors in.

 

[Toby91ca]

Roughing. How is intentionally tripping a guy after the whistle not a penalty.

Not suggesting you can't call a penalty, but you generally wouldn't expect it....especially for a simple trip. Guys can punch either other in the fact after a whistle and not get called for roughing.

 

[gary559]

I don't really like the wording of this rule. It talks about a distinct kicking motion but fails to provide a clear definition of what that actually looks like. That's why the calls can be so inconsistent as to what constitutes a kick.

You have just entered the land of interpretation.

 

[Micklebot]

Every team's fans complain about the officiating being biased towards them, complaining about the officiating is how I accumulated 35k in likes.

 

[gary559]

Every team's fans complain about the officiating being biased towards them, complaining about the officiating is how I accumulated 35k in likes.

Damn, you could retire today.

 

[JianYang]

You have just entered the land of interpretation.

There will always be a certain degree of interpretation but I think they can do a better job of reducing the ambiguity in this case.

 

[HighLifeMan]

I'm all for teams sticking up for themselves re: bad calls but the overtime whining by the Flames last night was a bit much. The call that Huberdeau believes he should have gotten simply does not get called a lot of the time based on the play. Not only was the play happening incredibly fast, it was not very apparent that a) there was any type of high-stick and b) whose stick it was. Instead he lied on the ice and just kept giving it to the ref while the Sens score the other way.

For your entire team to stick around after you lost the game hoping the refs overturn a call like that just screams losing mentality. Surely they know how many plays like that don't get called, and they'd also know that calls that shouldn't be called (ie the Flames goal) do.

Edit: Actually, funny enough, I re-watched the clip and it looks like Huberdeau skates himself into the post and stumbles. Doesn't look like Sanderson caused that. Makes it even more cringe.

I don't agree with the premise of this thread at all but that was a blatantly clear penalty and the player who took the infraction scored directly as a result of the play. Calgary players are frustrated because the calls simply arn't going there way at critical moments in a game (specifically OT). The reaction of the team isn't isolated to this one play.


It is what it is though, missed calls happen and it's a league wide issue.

 

[OilerTyler]

I don't agree with the premise of this thread at all but that was a blatantly clear penalty and the player who took the infraction scored directly as a result of the play. Calgary players are frustrated because the calls simply arn't going there way at critical moments in a game (specifically OT). The reaction of the team isn't isolated to this one play.


It is what it is though, missed calls happen and it's a league wide issue.

It's a clear penalty in that screenshot, yeah. It wasn't a clear penalty in real time. It's not even really clear on the replay.

It definitely wasn't clear enough for Huberdeau to give up on the play and whine like he did.

 

[TheNumber4]

What a ridiculous thread. Everyone knows the only legitimate Ref complaints come from Oilers fans.