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HF Habs: Flames or Panthers 1st Round Pick 2025: Part II

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austin316 said:
Honestly I’d probably rather cheer for the flames to finish 16th or 17th instead of risk having them win the lottery at 12 or 13 overall and take the pick away
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Don't teams 11-16 only move up one spot if they win the lottery. If so if Calgary was 12th the pick goes to the Habs.
 
Teams I'm rooting against, that is to lose as much as possible, so the Flames pick stays out of the bottom 10:

West: San Jose, Chicago, Nashville, Seattle, Anaheim (9 points back and Flames have a game in hand)
East: Buffalo, Philly, Pittsburgh, Boston, Detroit (7 points back, same number of games played)

Teams I'm rooting for to pass the Flames so our pick is as close as possible to 11th:
Utah, Vancouver, St. Louis, NYI, Rangers (as long as they don't pass us)

Buffer team that it would be good if they didn't pass the Flames in case something goes wrong with the current bottom 10: Columbus.
 
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calder candidate said:
It hard to pick between them missing the playoffs and risk winning the lottery and them making the playoffs and risk them making a run… both are low chance but with our luck…
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at this point I'm definitely rooting for the Flames to lose, but not too much, so they don't make the playoffs. They would have to have quite a collapse (like Detroit and Columbus have just had) to fall into the bottom 10. And a current bottom 10 team would have to do well.
 
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Rapala said:
UI called this The Florida Troll Job in reverse months ago. It won't be hard for Calgary to sink if they find themselves out of it. Wolf just has to stub his toe.
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I agree with you up until their tecent 3g win streak.. i dont think they have tank in them even if Wolf goes down.. i think they go .500 thr test of the way and gonish 13th. So long as they dont win the lottery, that is a fantabulous pick in that crazy contract, best possible outcome.. and we deserve it in lieu of the Panthers 2 years ago luck run that cost us a 16thoa
 
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26Mats said:
Teams I'm rooting against, that is to lose as much as possible, so the Flames pick stays out of the bottom 10:

West: San Jose, Chicago, Nashville, Seattle, Anaheim (9 points back and Flames have a game in hand)
East: Buffalo, Philly, Pittsburgh, Boston, Detroit (7 points back, same number of games played)

Teams I'm rooting for to pass the Flames so our pick is as close as possible to 11th:
Utah, Vancouver, St. Louis, NYI, Rangers (as long as they don't pass us)

Buffer team that it would be good if they didn't pass the Flames in case something goes wrong with the current bottom 10: Columbus.
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To make things easier, just vote for STL or VAN to nab that final WC2
 
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themilosh said:
To make things easier, just vote for STL or VAN to nab that final WC2
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That would put the pick between 11th and 16th, assuming the Flames don't collapse - which still could happen. Or, if they fall too far behind the 8th and final spot, they could start to tank. But both of those scenarios seem unlikely. The players are giving it their all to make it and are in poke position. But those Blues are really coming on. We'll see why on Tuesday.

I'm starting to see big possibilities for the pick to get to 12th or 13th or 14th. But 16 wou lo d still be nice. Though I've hear there is a drop off after about 10th 9verall. So 12th overall would put HuGo in better striking distance to move up.
 
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But man, the Flames are only 5 points ahead of Detroit for the last bottom 10 spot.

It's definitely not a sure thing they'll finish out of the bottom 10.
 
Calgary has a hard lineup in their last 12, it's gonna come down to the wire but I think it's safe to say they wont keep pace with St louis and as long as Minnesota doesn't implode Calgary will miss the playoffs. I think this pick lands around 14OA.
 
26Mats said:
But man, the Flames are only 5 points ahead of Detroit for the last bottom 10 spot.

It's definitely not a sure thing they'll finish out of the bottom 10.
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It's pretty sure.. there's ~10 games left for teams. There's a number of teams between Calgary and Detroit. It would take multiple teams between Calgary and Detroit to win 3 more games than the Flames over a 10 game stretch. That's really really hard to do.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
It's pretty sure.. there's ~10 games left for teams. There's a number of teams between Calgary and Detroit. It would take multiple teams between Calgary and Detroit to win 3 more games than the Flames over a 10 game stretch. That's really really hard to do.
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Flames are playing well too. They don't have a lot of scoring but they play hard and usually outshoot their opponents.

With all the games in hand they have on other teams, their games will likely be meaningful right to the end.
 
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Schooner Guy said:
Flames are playing well too. They don't have a lot of scoring but they play hard and usually outshoot their opponents.

With all the games in hand they have on other teams, their games will likely be meaningful right to the end.
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It's more about keeping them out of the playoffs than them falling into the bottom 10 at this point.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
It's pretty sure.. there's ~10 games left for teams. There's a number of teams between Calgary and Detroit. It would take multiple teams between Calgary and Detroit to win 3 more games than the Flames over a 10 game stretch. That's really really hard to do.
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While I agree with you , I learned to keep my mouth shut on that , with what Florida did 2 years ago …. Still can’t forget the pens losing to the hawks !!! That was the difference between a lottery pick and the 31st aka as newhook
 
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At that point, no way they finish top 10, unless they crash hard like winning only 3 more games and all of Detroit, Utah, NYR, NYI, CBJ and Vancouver all play over .500 for the rest of the season, which won't be happening.

And bottom 9 teams are out of reach.
 
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