Post-Game Talk: Flames at Rangers 12/15/2013

[broadwayblue]

I missed the shootout because I was watching the Psych Musical (favorite TV show).

But, in response to all of the Henrik criticism's, and he is deserving of it this year, people need to understand he is allowed to have an "off year." He hasn't had one yet, and for a goaltender (especially) who has played eight years, that is unbelievable.

As Joe said at the start of the game, Lundqvist has been shaky recently, and the team needs to step up and bail him out, because he has bailed them out so much over the last eight years. And last night, I'm glad the Rangers were able to win a game where Lundqvist was a passenger rather than the difference maker. They bailed him out, which is great (although I don't think any of the goals he let up last night were bad, but he didn't come up with that OMG save either). Hopefully this win gets the monkey off his back.

He was terrible in October. A rock in November. And bad thus far in December. Maybe a win will give him some confidence.

Maybe not OMG worthy, but he made a couple big saves on odd man rushes when we were down 2-0. If he lets one of those in the game is over.

 

[Greg02]

It's funny how exciting and entertaining the shootout is when you're never in them.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Tarasenko is a better fighter, bro.

mcilrath fighting is a mere distraction from our bad reality.

its a feel good story with no staying power. every one is amped up now over his scrap and we did win the game, but that doesnt hide the long stretches of dreadful, sloppy, disinterested play against a poor team.

were not a very good team and hank is suffering his lowest confidence level, i believe, of his entire career. sochi should help but will it be too late ?

oh and jon, vlad tarasenko and his 11 goals would be leading our team right now.

you know, that team that cant score. yeah, that one.

 

[Kakko]

mcilrath fighting is a mere distraction from our bad reality.

its a feel good story with no staying power. every one is amped up now over his scrap and we did win the game, but that doesnt hide the long stretches of dreadful, sloppy, disinterested play against a poor team.

were not a very good team and hank is suffering his lowest confidence level, i believe, of his entire career. sochi should help but will it be too late ?

oh and jon, vlad tarasenko and his 11 goals would be leading our team right now.

you know, that team that cant score. yeah, that one.

Tarasenko would not be leading our team in goals

 

[offdacrossbar]

Tarasenko would not be leading our team in goals

beever has 9

tank has 11

ok. you win

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

beever has 9

tank has 11

ok. you win

Would he have 11 on this ****** "team" though?

 

[Kakko]

beever has 9

tank has 11

ok. you win

If tarasenko was on the Rangers, he wouldn't have 11 goals

 

[Thirty One]

Would he have 11 on this ****** "team" though?

He'd be lucky to have zero.

 

[Ail]

Would he have 11 on this ****** "team" though?

If tarasenko was on the Rangers, he wouldn't have 11 goals

He'd be lucky to have zero.

Thos.

It's easy to say "Oh well he has more goals than the Rangers top goal scorer, he would lead the team." In a vacuum sure. Eleven is greater than 9.

Tarasenko would not be playing the same minutes, situations, system, or with the same players in NY. Sadly I agree with -31-, if he wasn't a minus player and was not making bone head plays every night, that would be a success here.

On the other hand you can also say he'd have 20 goals here playing more minutes both at EV and PP. Although, far less likely.

 

[Thirty One]

Sadly I agree with -31-

Sucks to be you, bro.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

How was Lundqvist bad? Are we talking about the shootout? - while he wasn't great. It's hard to call a goalie bad by letting up shootout goals. Because none of the goals that went in were his fault. In fact, he's the only reason the Rangers were still in the game when they gave up an early breakaway and a late 2-1. But, it's cool to **** on him for every goal that goes in.

He let in 3 goals on 18 shots before he was bailed out by Kreider (again), then it took just horrid goaltending from Ramo to hide the fact that Lundqvist didnt make key saves in the shootout. It took a weak attempt by their what, 6th or 7th shooter for him to make a big save.

Sorry, but when your 28th in GAA and 28th in SVPCt and youre 10-14-1, it's time to take a few seconds away from the Lundqvist shrine most of you have in your bedrooms and admit that he's been garbage for most of the season.

 

[RangersHank*]

He let in 3 goals on 18 shots before he was bailed out by Kreider (again), then it took just horrid goaltending from Ramo to hide the fact that Lundqvist didnt make key saves in the shootout. It took a weak attempt by their what, 6th or 7th shooter for him to make a big save.

Sorry, but when your 28th in GAA and 28th in SVPCt and youre 10-14-1, it's time to take a few seconds away from the Lundqvist shrine most of you have in your bedrooms and admit that he's been garbage for most of the season.

What is our offense ranked? Its Hanks fault? Maybe if this team played as a team they could win a bit more

 

[AlternateSideParking]

What is our offense ranked? Its Hanks fault? Maybe if this team played as a team they could win a bit more

Yes, it's the offense's fault that they trailed a Stamkos-less TB 2-0 just three minutes into the game.

Yes, it's the offenses fault that the Rangers have trailed 2-0, 3-0 and 2-0 in the first period of their last three home games.

It's the offenses fault that they were down 2-0 just two minutes into the 2nd period against the Caps.

It's the offenses fault that a 2-0 lead midway through the 2nd against the 24th ranked offense in the NHL was blown, right?

But anyway, thank you for acknowledging that Lundqvist needs an offense to score 4 goals a game for him to get a win. Thank God Sather still has the phone numbers of all the 1988 Oilers. I hear they're all available

 

[Thirty One]

The "this is a problem too, so you can't discuss that" argument is probably my all time favorite.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Yes, it's the offense's fault that they trailed a Stamkos-less TB 2-0 just three minutes into the game.

Yes, it's the offenses fault that the Rangers have trailed 2-0, 3-0 and 2-0 in the first period of their last three home games.

It's the offenses fault that they were down 2-0 just two minutes into the 2nd period against the Caps.

It's the offenses fault that a 2-0 lead midway through the 2nd against the 24th ranked offense in the NHL was blown, right?

But anyway, thank you for acknowledging that Lundqvist needs an offense to score 4 goals a game for him to get a win. Thank God Sather still has the phone numbers of all the 1988 Oilers. I hear they're all available

Well, to be fair, if the offense weren't so bad, it's likely we wouldn't be in all those positions you've listed. Likely all those 0s would be different. In fact, if we had the puck in there end, it wouldn't matter how great our goalie is. But, to be clear, Lundqvist is definitely struggling and not helping anything right now. I just don't like hyperboles, especially when criticizing players' games.

 

[The Gloaming]

I refuse to get excited over a Shootout win against the Flames in which they fell behind 2-0.

Like, it's nice that they came back, but they never had a lead against the FLAMES.

Also, big at the woman sitting next to me. Some gems:

Talbot >>> Lundqvist
McDonagh hasn't been good this year.
Girardi is a good defenseman.
Sather did the wrong thing in not re signing Ryane Clowe. (I had to remind her about his 88383 concussions)

And this woman watches every game and has a mini plan.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Yes, it's the offense's fault that they trailed a Stamkos-less TB 2-0 just three minutes into the game.

Yes, it's the offenses fault that the Rangers have trailed 2-0, 3-0 and 2-0 in the first period of their last three home games.

It's the offenses fault that they were down 2-0 just two minutes into the 2nd period against the Caps.

It's the offenses fault that a 2-0 lead midway through the 2nd against the 24th ranked offense in the NHL was blown, right?

But anyway, thank you for acknowledging that Lundqvist needs an offense to score 4 goals a game for him to get a win. Thank God Sather still has the phone numbers of all the 1988 Oilers. I hear they're all available

That was the defense and Lundqvist's fault, then it was the offense's fault that they arent able to come back.

There'd be a lot less arguing if you all just admitted everything sort of stinks right now.

 

[The Gloaming]

That was the defense and Lundqvist's fault, then it was the offense's fault that they arent able to come back.

There'd be a lot less arguing if you all just admitted everything sort of stinks right now.

Zis.

Also, the team has contributed to his **** sv%. If your goalie is consistently facing grade A chances, there's a less chance of him stopping those than easy shots from the outside. Save% is very closely linked to the team defense.

The only goalie that is throwing that theory out the window this year is Ryan Miller. His save percentage on that terrible Buffalo team is something to behold.

 

[Ail]

I refuse to get excited over a Shootout win against the Flames in which they fell behind 2-0.

Like, it's nice that they came back, but they never had a lead against the FLAMES.

Also, big at the woman sitting next to me. Some gems:

Talbot >>> Lundqvist
McDonagh hasn't been good this year.
Girardi is a good defenseman.
Sather did the wrong thing in not re signing Ryane Clowe. (I had to remind her about his 88383 concussions)

And this woman watches every game and has a mini plan.

Related to Glen Sather.

 

[AKrangerfan]

For those of you that think McIlrath was beaten badly, these are examples of beatings. I especially enjoyed watching Sestito get his butt kicked. He was picked up on waivers. We could have picked him up but passed. Sure could have used a true heavyweight like him the last few years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFpQBwx0J4Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5zy90Q2y88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmUwT-orhew

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

For those of you that think McIlrath was beaten badly, these are examples of beatings. I especially enjoyed watching Sestito get his butt kicked. He was picked up on waivers. We could have picked him up but passed. Sure could have used a true heavyweight like him the last few years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFpQBwx0J4Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5zy90Q2y88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmUwT-orhew

Adrien Broner got his ass kicked Saturday night.

....wait...we're talking about hockey?

 

[AlternateSideParking]

That was the defense and Lundqvist's fault, then it was the offense's fault that they arent able to come back.

There'd be a lot less arguing if you all just admitted everything sort of stinks right now.

a 2-0 hole just 10 minutes into a game is a tall order for any offense in the league.

 

[aufheben]

Scoring 2 goals in 50 minutes is not a tall order for a lot of teams.

 

[romba]

Scoring 2 goals in 50 minutes is not a tall order for a lot of teams.

Do you mean to say that scoring 2 goals while not allowing a single goal for 50 minutes is not a tall order to perform on a fairly regular basis?

On a few occasions the Rangers have managed to score '2 goals in 50 minutes' after falling behind early. The only problem is that at that point the other team already has 3+ goals, a consequence that happens more often than not when you fall behind early, no matter how talented the team.

 

[Idlerlee]

it will be good to destroy the Pens again