Confirmed Trade: - [FLA/OTT] Brady Tkachuk for two 2026 1st round picks (9th, 25th OA), c. 2029/30 1st round pick (top 10 protected), 2027 2nd round pick | Page 81 | HFBoards - NHL Message Board and Forum for National Hockey League

Confirmed Trade: [FLA/OTT] Brady Tkachuk for two 2026 1st round picks (9th, 25th OA), c. 2029/30 1st round pick (top 10 protected), 2027 2nd round pick

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I wonder how much of this is owing it to the fans and loyalty to the fans rather than to the team.

It is true, it is a two way street, and employers can get rid of employees anytime, regardless of performance. Business needs will trump employee loyalty.

That said, I do think there has been a prevalent move in society towards individualism, and the lack of perseverance or resilience is not what it once was. To stay with an employer (or employee) during lean or difficult times. One may then can ask how long of a difficult time constitutes endless waiting. What if the employee stays and commits through thick and thin, only to have the employer pull the rug out under them.
The trend toward individualism is, IMO, driven a lot by employers. Over the past 30 years, they've chipped away at the things that helps keep an employee loyal, only to help their bottom line. Vacation time, medical benefits, retirement benefits, employee stock plans, etc..

Those actions have driven employees to be more individualistic, because unlike years ago, the company isn't going to be there for them long term.

I get that sports are different because of the fan involvement so it's more complicated, but I do feel that players need to look out for themselves, because teams will do that. My team did that with Calvin de Hann. Signed him as a UFA and then turned around and traded him for cap reasons a year later. We've also had players do it to the team (Adam Fox refusing to sign, Rantanen not wanting to sign after the trade, etc... I don't hold ill will to the team or players for doing what's best for them.
Still, the amount of players signing with a team only to dictate NMC / NTC seems to signal the player's desire to commit to himself first rather than show loyalty to the team that wanted them in the first place. But I get it, it's easy to argue one side, but it does take two to tango...
I Look at NTC/NMC differently. In many cases, it's because the player WANTS to be loyal to the team he signed with, and also have the team be loyal to him. He doesn't want to be traded elsewhere, where he may not want to go, without his permission.

In this case, Brady is telling Ottawa upfront that once this contract is up, he's not re-signing. That's not being disloyal, it's telling them up front so that if Ottawa wants to trade him for some assets, they have time to do it. He could have just done like Tavares and played out the final two seasons in Ottawa and left as a free agent.
 
This is quite delusional, the Sens are now a bottom dweller without Brady

Also this is still a horrible deal. It’s unlikely statistically that these first round picks will be as good as Brady. The 9th overall will be the best pick and a lot of them end up busting.
lol
This is quite delusional, the Sens are now a bottom dweller without Brady

Also this is still a horrible deal. It’s unlikely statistically that these first round picks will be as good as Brady. The 9th overall will be the best pick and a lot of them end up busting.
Sens are 23-15 -7 without Brady.

Sens will likely trade first rounders..McTavish , Kyrou among others could be had.

Good deal for both teams. Panthers are contenders without Brady.....hell of a depth center/menace to add to an already great team.
Barkov
Bennett
Tkachuk
Lundell

wow. Thats depth at center
 
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Wonder how long Stutzle and Sanderson are gonna last.
Ottawa and their best players leaving in their prime is Sens heritage
According to some reports, the locker room is OK with him leaving, too many distractions. Stutzle has said how much he loves it in Ottawa, I think Sandy will be the new captain at some point. Sandy's parents are both Canadian, he was born in Calgary. It's their team now. But I guess the proof will be when they need to be re-signed, but luckily that's not for a few years yet.
 
It's hard to fell sorry for organizations because when it suits them, they show no loyalty towards players.

That being said Brady acted like the bum that he is. The Senators drafted you, developed you, built around you, signed you to long term contract, named you captain and you repay them by screwing them on getting full value in trading the asset.

Giving the Senators only 4 teams to negotiate placed the Senators with a gun to the head. Either trade for futures or let him play out the contract. It would give the Senators 2 years to plan for his exit. Senators call the bluff.

I have a better appreciation to what the Leafs went through with Marner.
 
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Reuniting the brothers is fun and all but it's not what Florida needs. On paper looks like great depth having 5 or 6 first line players but there's only so much powerplay and ice time to go around and it never usually works out the way as planned.
Not sure how some can say this is a great trade for Ottawa. You lose a young power forward type player for a handful of magic beans. Late round first rounders are 50/50 at best to ever become anything. The 9th can become anything and probably doesn't play for a couple of years. Glad to see that POS gone though.
I agree with these both. It's a pretty depressing return for Ottawa, but also Tkachuk seems redundant for Florida. Good value but bad fit for them. And it's not just about the powerplay time, it's also that they as a team were already kind of big and slow and now even more so. I think they would've been better off adding some speed into the mix, or even better adding a quality defenseman (maybe even a goalie).
 
I agree with these both. It's a pretty depressing return for Ottawa, but also Tkachuk seems redundant for Florida. Good value but bad fit for them. And it's not just about the powerplay time, it's also that they as a team were already kind of big and slow and now even more so. I think they would've been better off adding some speed into the mix, or even better adding a quality defenseman (maybe even a goalie).
I'm a bit surprised that Zito took the bait on this. Having a black hole in net and the ability to add less depth throughout the lineup could be trouble for an injury-prone, older team. At the same time, it has to be a depressing deal for Ottawa fans not so much because of the player lost, but because of what it represents. Attracting players to Ottawa is not easy. I don't buy for a second that they will use these picks to get Jason Robertson, because I highly doubt that he would sign a deal with Ottawa. I think they will simply use the 9th overall pick to draft a player, and they will backfill Brady's spot with lesser players.
 
I am just responding to that tweet that Brady waived to go to Minny and they offered more then Florida....it makes no sense at all.
They were on his list, but is that considered waiving or does he have to sign something once an offer has been received? What happens when multiple teams make offers? Does the player have any say on which offer to accept? I imagine Brady would've known that the Panthers made an offer. Did Staois accept Florida's offer because it was better or because Brady forced his hand or because he was doing Brady a solid?

I do give Brady props for giving the Sens 2 years notice that he wouldn't be re-signing. This allowed them to get a bigger haul for him.
 
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I'm a bit surprised that Zito took the bait on this. Having a black hole in net and the ability to add less depth throughout the lineup could be trouble for an injury-prone, older team. At the same time, it has to be a depressing deal for Ottawa fans not so much because of the player lost, but because of what it represents. Attracting players to Ottawa is not easy. I don't buy for a second that they will use these picks to get Jason Robertson, because I highly doubt that he would sign a deal with Ottawa. I think they will simply use the 9th overall pick to draft a player, and they will backfill Brady's spot with lesser players.
Lmao you don’t think Zito has a plan for goalies? You don’t think the greatest GM in sports, has a plan for goalie??? Lol
 
Lmao you don’t think Zito has a plan for goalies? You don’t think the greatest GM in sports, has a plan for goalie??? Lol
If he can find a way to land Hellebuyck, I will be the first to pay him the appropriate compliment. As of right now, I see an older, injury-prone team without goaltending and not an enormous amount of cap space or assets. If his solution ends up being a guy like Aidin Hill, best of luck.
 
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If he can find a way to land Hellebuyck, I will be the first to pay him the appropriate compliment. As of right now, I see an older, injury-prone team without goaltending and not an enormous amount of cap space or assets. If his solution ends up being a guy like Aidin Hill, best of luck.
Zito will get a goalie that is a fact. Helly will cost prospects, the peg is rebuilding
 
I think this is a good thing for Ottawa. Immature and overrated powerforward. He can't hold things together when things get tough. Florida is obviously a great fit for him where he doesnt have to be the guy and the team has a solid leadership spine already in place. In Ottawa he tries to do too much and often ended up looking a bit like a toddler at times. Maybe he does the same stuff in Florida.
 
I agree with these both. It's a pretty depressing return for Ottawa, but also Tkachuk seems redundant for Florida. Good value but bad fit for them. And it's not just about the powerplay time, it's also that they as a team were already kind of big and slow and now even more so. I think they would've been better off adding some speed into the mix, or even better adding a quality defenseman (maybe even a goalie).
Brady a bad fit for Florida? Are you kidding?? Lmao
 
Way too many posts to read through, so I'm going to say what's probably already been said.

This is a massive win for Ottawa--excellent haul, they now have 3 first round picks this year. Florida massively overpaid. Good luck to the GM when it comes time to extend these boys...
Definitely isn't a massive overpay, all of these picks are magic beans. If a trade for a player like B Tkachuk is going to be for a magic beans only return, I think this is fair value, not an overpay but obviously you'd prefer a young somewhat proven roster player back in a addition to a couple magic beans instead for a return.
 
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Zito will get a goalie that is a fact. Helly will cost prospects, the peg is rebuilding
Of course he will get a goalie. He currently doesn't have any on his roster, so he has to get two of them. He also has very little cap space (I assume they will add some by trading Rodrigues). No doubt he has plans in place for all of this, but I think there is still a lot of work to do to make Florida an actual playoff threat again.
 
If Canadian superstars want to stop being naive and read the room about what's happening among their American rivals, the ball is in Makar's court. I won't hold my breath...
You shouldn't, maybe, for any number of reasons, the U.S. is the preferred place to play and live for most players, regardless of nationality
 
Of course he will get a goalie. He currently doesn't have any on his roster, so he has to get two of them. He also has very little cap space (I assume they will add some by trading Rodrigues). No doubt he has plans in place for all of this, but I think there is still a lot of work to do to make Florida an actual playoff threat again.
Rodrigues+Boqvist traded=11+ in cap space. Cap space won't be an issue.
 
Of course he will get a goalie. He currently doesn't have any on his roster, so he has to get two of them. He also has very little cap space (I assume they will add some by trading Rodrigues). No doubt he has plans in place for all of this, but I think there is still a lot of work to do to make Florida an actual playoff threat again.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Binnington 50% retained is headed to Florida for a couple of 2nd rounders or something similar.
 
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If he can find a way to land Hellebuyck, I will be the first to pay him the appropriate compliment. As of right now, I see an older, injury-prone team without goaltending and not an enormous amount of cap space or assets. If his solution ends up being a guy like Aidin Hill, best of luck.
Why is it always Toronto fans who are concerned with champion caliber teams. You should be more concerned The Tkachuk’s aren’t a going to break McKenna in half the first time they play.
 
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I agree with these both. It's a pretty depressing return for Ottawa, but also Tkachuk seems redundant for Florida. Good value but bad fit for them. And it's not just about the powerplay time, it's also that they as a team were already kind of big and slow and now even more so. I think they would've been better off adding some speed into the mix, or even better adding a quality defenseman (maybe even a goalie).
Even if this is true, which I disagree with, this move is marketing gold for Florida and the NHL. Even if wins dont come from it, it is a wise business move.
 

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