BelovedIsles
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A win for both. Chicago adds to their rebuild, and possibly gets a true #1 goalie. Florida adds to their Cup aspirations.
Confirmed Trade: [FLA/CHI] Seth Jones (26.3% retained; $7M AAV) and 2026 4th round pick for Spencer Knight and 2026 1st round pick
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Come wit it now!
CallMeShaft
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A .976 save percentage to start his Blackhawks career. And there were a LOT of high danger chances given up in that first period. Like a lot even for this Hawks team.
Tried his hand at a goalie goal with an empty net for the kings, but puck got blocked within 10 feet of him. Also looked like he got hurt late in the third, but turned out that he just lost a skate blade.
Really great night for him though. Best goalie performance on the Hawks in recent memory. The team played good, relative to their standards, tonight too. After that abysmal 1st period at least.
Tried his hand at a goalie goal with an empty net for the kings, but puck got blocked within 10 feet of him. Also looked like he got hurt late in the third, but turned out that he just lost a skate blade.
Really great night for him though. Best goalie performance on the Hawks in recent memory. The team played good, relative to their standards, tonight too. After that abysmal 1st period at least.
Ratsreign
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Just enjoy your new goalie, instead. You guys got a good one
He may need new skates, lol. It also happened in his last game for FL.
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I love this f***ing game we call hockey
CallMeShaft
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Knight's one performance tonight bumped his season long save percentage from .907 all the way up to .912. He's played 24 games this season.
That save percentage would have him tied with Markstrom, Ullmark, and Comrie for 11th best in the league this season (minimum 10 games played).
Really appreciate Florida giving us our future starter.
That save percentage would have him tied with Markstrom, Ullmark, and Comrie for 11th best in the league this season (minimum 10 games played).
Really appreciate Florida giving us our future starter.
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If anything, Jones reduces their chances of winning the Cup
The guy sucks ass
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Didn't people say that about almost every Panthers defenseman before they landed in Florida?
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He can be good enough to be a second unit guy there and contribute once in a while. He just doesn’t really do anything much to create. Mostly makes easy passes and shoots it off the goalies pads. Does a pretty good job keeping the puck in most of the time.
Meh, don’t really care what he does from now on. Seems like a decent enough guy. Wish he played harder. See ya.
JaegerDice
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Jones is a flawed defenseman. He was the day the Blackhawks traded for him in one of the worst trades of the last 10 years.
Not sure if anybody has brought it up, but he really cannot figure out how to gap up, which makes him catastrophic at defending the rush.
His decision making makes you want to pull your hair out at times.
He can skate well forwards but lacks lateral speed.
You give him heavy o-zone starts and put up with his determination to try and make shots through shin-pads, you'll get the most out of him.
There's no doubt he's a physical specimen. You'll never need to worry about him getting tired or even injured, and he can certainly handle himself along the boards.
Not sure if anybody has brought it up, but he really cannot figure out how to gap up, which makes him catastrophic at defending the rush.
His decision making makes you want to pull your hair out at times.
He can skate well forwards but lacks lateral speed.
You give him heavy o-zone starts and put up with his determination to try and make shots through shin-pads, you'll get the most out of him.
There's no doubt he's a physical specimen. You'll never need to worry about him getting tired or even injured, and he can certainly handle himself along the boards.
Jean Luc Discard
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That's exactly what I wanted to hear. We like our dmen to be flawed, unreliable, inconsistent, etc.
IdleTraveller
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You're welcome! I do wish Knight all the best - we will miss him and he's a gamer. So happy that he won his first game with you in such convincing fashion, and take care of him for us. And see if you can carry on our tradition of yelling "KNIGHT" during the anthem -that would be cool.
JaegerDice
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I hope it works out for your guys. Genuinely.
As a Blackhawks fan, I remember the same feeling. Felt like we could bring any flawed player into the system - Stalberg, Frolik, Oduya, Handzus, Rozival, Raanta, Darling - and our core and system would magically make studs out of them in their roles. It was a wonderful time and you should enjoy it for however long it lasts.
Eventually you hit a dud. I hope this isnt your dud, cause 5 more years is a long time when it comes to championship windows.
Jean Luc Discard
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That's pretty much how it is with this core and Zito being able to identify undervalued players that could fit into the Panthers' formula of success. I don't think it'll last very long, maybe the next two seasons and then it becomes significantly more difficult to just insert new players to the system and they'll exceed expectations. By then the Panthers would need an exciting/revitalizing young player in their lineup but that's not probably going to happen with a depleted prospect pool and limited moveable assets.
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He'll be a second pair guy for us and we'll see what happens with the PP, eventually he might get a look on the first unit. He won't be asked to do much more than be the main puck mover on his pair. If we're playing the system right we don't give up rush chances, so he will have to learn to have a hard gap. Maurice's system is pretty simple though, everyone else has learned it.
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Indrid Cold
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I have to agree. Even at 25% retention, Jones is STILL overpaid. I can't help but think Florida could have done a lot better with a Knight trade. I know the cap is going up, but how many teams are going to waste that new cap space. A LOT.
Le Magnifique 66
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This was a solid trade for the Hawks, they got what they needed and are now set in goal for years!!
Not yet. Will be unless they do nothing more until the deadline or Tkachuk doesn’t play in the playoffs.
Doubt either of those happen
If you belive his injury is legitimate. But I think most people who don't wear Panthers don’t glasses believe it's just a coincidence that he will get better the second cap restraints are released. Meanwhile the Panthers will use his cap space to add to the team.
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Chaos2k7
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Tkachuk has been fighting a LBI for a good portion of the season, ever since a knee on knee hit by Kucherov. If Chucky was healthy enough to play he would play through literally anything he could.
And the Jones move was made and cap compliant before this IR move was even made for Matthew.
TLEH
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At this point none of that matters. Precedent has shown the league isn't going to say "are you really injured" and the line between hurt and injured blurs a lot. After 60+ games a lot of guys are "hurt" and if their team is comfortable making the playoffs without them, it sort of makes sense to just do it this way. It'll continue to happen until the league changes something.
In general I don't agree with LTIR and then loading up, I hope they find a way to change it, but for now you can't hold it against anyone for doing it.
