Confirmed Trade: [FLA/CHI] Seth Jones (26.3% retained; $7M AAV) and 2026 4th round pick for Spencer Knight and 2026 1st round pick

[AuraSphere]

How could the leafs not match or beat this offer lol

 

[Mrfenn92]

How could the leafs not match or beat this offer lol

He wouldn’t waive there. Only Dallas or Florida

 

[FinlandPanther]

It's so sad that every thread, every post you go to the weakest flex possible...."we won a cup...we won a cup". Congrats. What was your contribution? Just a few years ago and Florida was the joke of the league. Enjoy your window...it never lasts very long...and soon you'll be the one at the end of some other idiot's posts about 'not having won since dinosaurs walked around'. Really, so lame.

That’s the only flex you need as the current champions. Stay mad Oh no we were the joke of the league and now champions? Damn must suck to be your team, just losers

 

[ColbyChaos]

It's so sad that every thread, every post you go to the weakest flex possible...."we won a cup...we won a cup". Congrats. What was your contribution? Just a few years ago and Florida was the joke of the league. Enjoy your window...it never lasts very long...and soon you'll be the one at the end of some other idiot's posts about 'not having won since dinosaurs walked around'. Really, so lame.

Did you even read the comment exchange? It was a Habs fan who did a very poor attempt at flaming that Panthers fan saying his team has been better the last 30 years when all he has is a finals loss compared to Florida who has a cup WIN and 2 more finals appearances.

Then you have Ole ole ole butting in trying to talk about a bunch of cups he didn’t even see as if they were relevant to the conversation

 

[Laus723]

It's so sad that every thread, every post you go to the weakest flex possible...."we won a cup...we won a cup". Congrats. What was your contribution? Just a few years ago and Florida was the joke of the league. Enjoy your window...it never lasts very long...and soon you'll be the one at the end of some other idiot's posts about 'not having won since dinosaurs walked around'. Really, so lame.

You’re not wrong, but the guy you posted to didn’t started all that nonsense. And we’ve heard shit for decades, so yeah, there’s some pent up frustration behind some of the championship posts.

 

[Dread Clawz]

I'm surprised FLA went this route. Assuming Tkachuk is back for the playoffs, their only real need was another defenseman. Their usual MO is to find cheap reclamation guys they can turn around, not high-ticket, big-risk deals. FLA's system does insulate defensemen and at a $7M cap hit in a rising cap, I think Jones has a chance to be worth it for the Panthers. This does basically signal they'll let Ekblad go though.

If the cap wasn't going up astronomically, Zito wouldn't have done this. He's now allowed more play.

 

[bossram]

If the cap wasn't going up astronomically, Zito wouldn't have done this. He's now allowed more play.

Yes, which is why I said the rising cap is an important consideration.

 

[Pandaman11]

Rantanen

Do you mean this Finnish guy who was drafted in 2015?

Or is there another Rantanen like there is another Elias Pettersson?

 

[PaulD]

It's so sad that every thread, every post you go to the weakest flex possible...."we won a cup...we won a cup". Congrats. What was your contribution? Just a few years ago and Florida was the joke of the league. Enjoy your window...it never lasts very long...and soon you'll be the one at the end of some other idiot's posts about 'not having won since dinosaurs walked around'. Really, so lame.

"a few years ago" the Panthers won the Presidents trophy. Beat out the Caps in the first round , then lost to Cup Champ Bolts.
That's a career year for everyone in the entire Maple Leaf organization.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

You made a long winded post how they should have kept Seth Jones and trading him was bad yet you want to say someone else is overthinking things? LOL

I don’t think I’m overthinking it as much as you say. I think slotting players into spots they aren’t ready for is bad for their development. Jones can play a hard 25 minutes. He’s not the best, but he’s been doing it for years.

That’s been my main argument against trading him. The value you get back isn’t going to compensate for his absence. Who’s ready to take over that role for the Hawks?

 

[ClydeLee]

I don’t think I’m overthinking it as much as you say. I think slotting players into spots they aren’t ready for is bad for their development. Jones can play a hard 25 minutes. He’s not the best, but he’s been doing it for years.

That’s been my main argument against trading him. The value you get back isn’t going to compensate for his absence. Who’s ready to take over that role for the Hawks?

That's not a necessity... and generally not a good thing when a player who isn't thriving is playing 25 minutes. So you're saying who is going to do this thing nobody should be done and this guy did poorly

Alex Vlasic with Louis Crevier, did thrive with Jones out. But he didn't need to play over 20mins much. They still have Murphy this and next year, maybe a deadline trade next year. You don't need that when you have some building multiple depth pieces. They're trying to be better bit not great for another 3 years. There's been very little of rushing any prospects in this current organization. Korchinski was it, because he was caught in that CHL too good but where else can he go issue that's now been removed.

Next year, they have capspace, they will need to use it. Probably some D will be added to that.

 

[Ignatius]

Florida should have demanded Chiraq do 50% retention, why not?

 

[Gardner McKay]

AKA the Erik Karlsson special, except the Panthers aren't going to fall off a cliff like the Penguins did.

The Penguins had already fallen off a cliff. It was obvious to many.

Panthers are no where close.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

Now that Seth Jones has shown how it’s done, and Matthew Tkachuk is on LTIR, what is Brady waiting for?

 

[BHawk21]

Fully anticipating a career revival from Jones now. Not being “the guy”, cap hit of 7.125 instead of 9.5, being asked mostly to be an offensive catalyst now on a strong offensive team. Something to play for. I’m guessing he looks revived.

This will be the narrative but he has been a very good blackhawk. Hes probably the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team. Hes good. A lot of hawks fans got blinded by the contract and made him a whipping boy.

Retaining for more than 5 seasons is tough. I really don't know if it'd make the return worth it. It's a lot in return for Seth Jones (who should basically have like negative value). I don't even know if Seth Jones at 7M is a good contract. Maybe an okay contract.

To me this is not a win for Florida. They gave up a lot, and got a 2/3D (right now) for 5+ years. What will he be towards the end of that deal? Will Bob really be a starting goaltender in three years? You lost your likely future starting goaltender. And a first round pick also isn't nothing.

Chicago only wins if Knight works out or the first turns into a good NHL'er. That's not worth it otherwise to be basically paying 2M in dead cap for more than 5 years without that. Was moving Jones without retaining not possible? Because to me my #1 goal would be moving the whole cap hit. A future here or there wouldn't be my aim. I know 2M isn't the end of the world, but the idea that the Hawks definitely won't be spending to the cap in like 4 years because they aren't now is hard to believe. If their rebuild goes as they want, they will be bringing in some big contracts in the upcoming years and also giving out some big ones to players already on their team.

They are going to be fighting to hit the cap floor for the next 3 seasons. The retention doesnt matter as much to Chicago at the moment.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

This trade is going to set Florida up for a third straight final appearance.

Awkward moment incoming for coach Maurice! Their opponent will be the Mighty 1 st place Winnipeg Jets!

Maurice’s quote of the 1 st thing Maurice said after winning the cup last year.

“ This is a dream come true , the only thing that would make it perfect is if my old team the Winnipeg Jets win it all next year”..,

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Florida got the upgrade they badly needed. Jones is a big upgrade on the departed Montour and OEL. Jones playing under a tight system like Maurice will excel.

I would even put Jones on the top pair with Forsling. Move Ekblad down to the 2nd pair.

 

[Gaud]

You guys have 1 cup since they invented curved sticks

The boomerang, right? or the Bow, maybe?

 

[BonMorrison]

I'm not gonna go through 23 pages to find if it's been discussed but what's the Hawks plan for goalies here? They have 4 NHL calibre goalies signed next year now? Both Mrazek and Brossoit traded and run with Knight/Soderblom?

 

[drktmplr12]

oh my god-this thread!

the tears!!

i'm feasting

 

[Bruce Granville]

How could the leafs not match or beat this offer lol

For starters…they don‘t have a Spencer Knight…and they have higher taxes.
And I guess they didn‘t even talk to Chicago…

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Forsling - Jones
Mikkola - Ekblad
Schmidt - Kulikov
x - Balinskis

Looks much better. Very solid now. Can decrease Ekblads minutes now and he will look better on the 2nd pair.

 

[v00d00daddy]

What a surprise lol

Another trade can be made now. The LTIR cap scam has begun. Hope all other teams do the same.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

This will be the narrative but he has been a very good blackhawk. Hes probably the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team. Hes good. A lot of hawks fans got blinded by the contract and made him a whipping boy.


They are going to be fighting to hit the cap floor for the next 3 seasons. The retention doesnt matter as much to Chicago at the moment.

So let’s say they sign McDavid or even someone on the lower end like Rantanen or Eichel and Bedard gets an early extension, which I would guess are aims for Hawks fans, you don’t think that’s going to eat up 25M?

Maybe I just have the wrong view of where the team is, but I think they’re gonna try to accelerate their rebuild after one more offseason of sucking.

 

[JKG33]

However, put me in the bucket of "salty Leafs fan" who is frustrated to see the strong get stronger, without having to give up all that much.

Blame nothing more than the Leafs own ineptitude. This is what happens when you prioritize overpaying loser players.

The team had guys like Verhaeghe and Marchment in the system but pissed them away for nothing.

Yea sure guys like Tkachuk, Jones, Bob will pick their destinations and those will always be great places in the south. But other key pieces like Forsling and Bennett could've been had for almost nothing.