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Possibly; there is Chara, Oliwa, Ivanans, KociToughest player from outside of North America ever.
Possibly; there is Chara, Oliwa, Ivanans, KociToughest player from outside of North America ever.
All good choices, but Nazarov was a monster among beasts. I fear for what he would have done without hockey.Possibly; there is Chara, Oliwa, Ivanans, Koci
played almost a decade in the AHL being productive. thats "Professional Level" hockey.
Was coming to post this. Our GM at the time, Jim Rutherford, along with our then owner Peter Karmanos hated this pick so much that they overcorrected. Unbelievably, the next Russian taken by Carolina after 2001 was Andrei Svechnikov in 2018.Igor Knyazev (2001 Carolina #15). A highly rated prospect with a great junior career, best defenseman at the WJC, and then simply nothing. Couldn't make the NHL, couldn't make the Russian league, ended up with fringe semi-pro gigs at lower levels before retiring at 30.
So early that it us just ridiculousIs it too early to put Tyler Boucher in this group? 10th overall pick in 2021 and has done literally nothing since then.
After his draft year, he put up 3 points in 17 games with BC, transferred to the OHL and put up 31 points in 45 games in 2 years combined and put up 5 points in 21 AHL games last year.
So early that it us just ridiculous
Yeah I wasn't too sure if he fit the bill. IIRC, he didn't play too many games despite the "long" AHL career. I'm forgetting though.Petrecki did last 7 seasons in the AHL, I think OP was looking for guys who didn't weren't AHL caliber. I liked Petrecki too, I remember being upset that the Devils missed out on him because we had to give up our 1st rounder to dump Vladimir Malakhov's cap hit.
In the book "Future Greats and Heartbreaks" there was a passage about the NHL combine and how Petrecki being physically developed might have actually hurt his draft stock. Some teams would think he was 90% to his physical peak so there might not be as much untapped potential for him after the draft.
There was likely the thought that big defensemen "take time to develop" and that bringing home a local boy who could be a defensive stalwart would have been a nice hit for an Edmonton team that was constantly getting pummeled defensively on the ice as well as off the ice in the media for being their defensive struggles (and struggles is being generous).The weirdest thing about this one is drafting him 4th overall and then another team using pick #16 and #33 to acquire him essentially drafting him in the 1st round a second time after 2 years of offensive regression in juniors and an AHL year where he was not seen as having NHL potential in NY for the following season.
Almost 300 pro games as a goalie doesn't seem too shabby, not sure if it fits this exact criteria.He somehow played a lot of games thanks to his name, but Malcolm Subban was an absolute shit goalie. Seems he rightfully hasn't sign a new contract.
oh didnt know that. thanks. I never really thought about leagues over seas till like 2017 or 18
stat lines dont always paint a perfect picture
this is a pretty tough one, alot easier if u use NHL or maybe AHL. hard to truly find those bums lol
well I dunno what to tell you. those are pro leagues. getting paid to play. barely pro level? 7 seasons would say he was good enough to be employed by professional teams.I feel like you might just be trying to be contrarian at any cost here.
If you can make the case that he doesn't match OP's description, by all means, present that data. 216 games played over seven seasons in the KHL doesn't seem to me to matter much.
We haven’t even got to Dan Woodley and Jason HerterI'm not actually sure if Patrick White or Libor Polasek is the worst Canucks first round pick ever, but the latter was drafted in an era where everybody was trying to find the next Lindros so there are probably a ton of examples in the 90s. At least with White, there isn't really an excuse for making that pick when his physical profile was nothing to write home about and neither was his production.
I will throw Philippe Paradis's name into the mix but he's not the worst named yet.
We haven’t even got to Dan Woodley and Jason Herter
Is it too early to put Tyler Boucher in this group? 10th overall pick in 2021 and has done literally nothing since then.
After his draft year, he put up 3 points in 17 games with BC, transferred to the OHL and put up 31 points in 45 games in 2 years combined and put up 5 points in 21 AHL games last year.
He’s currently in the NHL thoughMichael McCarron