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Aashir Mallick said:
Defence has been awful, not a fan

Offence has been pretty good, am a fan

Goalies have been bad, not a fan
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I missed the Chicago game so curious what didn’t you like about woll? Everything I’ve heard indicates be played well and wasn’t the reason they lost. Agree on our defence for sure.
 
No idea how to fix the defence, but the forward group is simple:

Regular season:
Knies Matthews Nylander 21min
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner 21min
Minten Kampf Jarnkrok 15min PK/DZ starts
Gregor Domi Reaves 3min

Playoffs:
Knies Matthews Nylander
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner
Minten Rental Jarnkrok
Gregor Kampf Holmberg/Rental
Reaves
 
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A1LeafNation said:
No idea how to fix the defence, but the forward group is simple:

Regular season:
Knies Matthews Nylander 21min
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner 21min
Minten Kampf Jarnkrok 15min PK/DZ starts
Gregor Domi Reaves 3min

Playoffs:
Knies Matthews Nylander
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner
Minten Rental Jarnkrok
Gregor Kampf Holmberg/Rental
Reaves
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Those are the lines I'd like to see.
 
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The deck chairs have been changed, however this team still looks to be not so much different than previous versions.

The win over the Habs wasn't great, but still counted for 2 points. Unfortunately, they gave the Habs a point as well. It should have been an easy win !!!

Thanks to Matthews, they pulled off a win against the Wild without the benefit of good goal tending. Once again, Samsonov wasn't as sharp as needed for a starter.

The loss to the Hawks showed that this team still expects to earn 2 points without actually showing up to work hard. Hard work beats skill when skill FAILS to work hard !!!
 
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Positive:
Nylander, Matthews, Klingberg, Tavares, Gregor, Reaves, Rielly

Neutral:
Marner, Domi, Minten

Negative:
Goaltending, Bertuzzi
 
Evilhomer said:
The problem is that it turns the third and fourth lines into black holes. Domi cannot be on a fourth line.
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Knies is the only one moving up, is he that impactful on the 3rd line?
Domi wouldn't be on the team if it was up to me. Less ice time the better.
 
Evilhomer said:
The problem is that it turns the third and fourth lines into black holes. Domi cannot be on a fourth line.
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The cap cap hits Marner and Tavares took essentially made us a 2 line team. If they don't provide enough offence it's on them or the GM.

Why can't Domi be a 3m 4th line player, he hasn't shown anything but that at this point.
 
Matthews + Marner or Nylander doesn't matter which play together for me but they don't need anyone else on that line to produce at an elite level. they played with Plugs like Bunting and Hyman(for the first couple of years here) and produced at an elite level what I would like to see is

Jarnkrok Matthews Marner
Knies Tavares Bertuzzi
Nylander Minten Domi
Reaves Kampf Gregor


you can almost slot anyone in on that top line instead of jarnkrok like Robertson/McMann/gregor etc. wont stop Matthews/Marner from producing at an elite level.

as for defense it's no surprise were giving up a lot of goals team defense takes the longest to develop over the course of a season.
 
A1LeafNation said:
The cap cap hits Marner and Tavares took essentially made us a 2 line team. If they don't provide enough offence it's on them or the GM.

Why can't Domi be a 3m 4th line player, he hasn't shown anything but that at this point.
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Domi isn't strong enough defensively to play on a fourth line. Maybe they can get away with putting him on the third line, but the reality is that unless you are playing Domi on the first or second line, he won't serve much of a purpose. I think we will see him back on the second line soon enough.
 
Evilhomer said:
Domi isn't strong enough defensively to play on a fourth line. Maybe they can get away with putting him on the third line, but the reality is that unless you are playing Domi on the first or second line, he won't serve much of a purpose. I think we will see him back on the second line soon enough.
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He's not strong enough for 4th line minutes so give him more 3rd minutes? Makes sense.

What a disaster signing.
 
ACC1224 said:
yeah, not sure I understood that either.
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The third line has other defensively responsible players on it, but the fourth line does not. You can't have Domi and Reaves on the same line. Whatever minutes that line is on the ice would be played almost entirely in Toronto's end. Spreading out two defensively problematic players reduces the impact of their flaws.
 
To be fair, I do not think the remit was to build a better regular season team. It was to build a team that could progress to the 4th round of the playoffs. In order to do that, you need to win a series of individual battles over and over again, and then do it all again two days later, for six weeks.
 
bax said:
I missed the Chicago game so curious what didn’t you like about woll? Everything I’ve heard indicates be played well and wasn’t the reason they lost. Agree on our defence for sure.
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Nah I wasn’t really talking about him, moreso about Samsonov and as he’s our starter, im pretty concerned with that position as a whole now

If woll can take that role, or Samsonov can fix his player, then I’ll be more confident in goaltending
 
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Evilhomer said:
The third line has other defensively responsible players on it, but the fourth line does not. You can't have Domi and Reaves on the same line. Whatever minutes that line is on the ice would be played almost entirely in Toronto's end. Spreading out two defensively problematic players reduces the impact of their flaws.
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Spreading out makes sense if they play even minutes. Playing a worse player more minutes to protect him doesn't make sense to me.
(I get what you're saying though)

I've never been a Domi fan so I am 100% biased, hated the signing.
The team though will be better off finding a way to make him useful then burying him on the 4th line, IMO.
 
ACC1224 said:
Spreading out makes sense if they play even minutes. Playing a worse player more minutes to protect him doesn't make sense to me.
(I get what you're saying though)

I've never been a Domi fan so I am 100% biased, hated the signing.
The team though will be better off finding a way to make him useful then burying him on the 4th line, IMO.
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I agree that burying him on the fourth line isn't a great idea (and it won't happen). He will end up being force fed on the first or second line, unless he finds chemistry on the third line. Ultimately, he will get his points. I'm just not sure it was the best use of money in the off-season.
 
Evilhomer said:
I agree that burying him on the fourth line isn't a great idea (and it won't happen). He will end up being force fed on the first or second line, unless he finds chemistry on the third line. Ultimately, he will get his points. I'm just not sure it was the best use of money in the off-season.
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It's hard to see a place for him on the top two lines. Who does he replace, Bertuzzi or Knies?
 
This is Domi's fifth team since the end of the '19-20 season.
I think there's a reason for that and we're finding out first-hand.
 
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This team is still weak defensively and built with 1/2 their salary cap on 4 forwards to outscore their shortcomings.

Until this team moves money/cap from those 4 forwards to build up the defense core they will continue to be pretenders and not true Cup contenders. IMO
 
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ACC1224 said:
It's hard to see a place for him on the top two lines. Who does he replace, Bertuzzi or Knies?
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I think that was always the challenge for the signing. Maybe the thought was that Knies would have a better chance to excel on the third line given his style of play, while Domi could be on the second line. I still think it may end up exactly that way.
 
Aashir Mallick said:
Nah I wasn’t really talking about him, moreso about Samsonov and as he’s our starter, im pretty concerned with that position as a whole now

If woll can take that role, or Samsonov can fix his player, then I’ll be more confident in goaltending
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I can agree with that for sure from what I've seen of Samsonov so far this year.
 
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Leave Domi on one of the top two lines and see if he will sink or swim.

5.4m in cap space allocated to Domi and Kampf leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Imagine that money invested into the D or a legit 3C.
 
Knies Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares Jarnkrok
Domi Minten Nylander

Then sign Kane:

Knies Matthews Kane
Bertuzzi Tavares Marner
Domi Nylander Jarnkrok
 
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