Speculation: Fire Rob Blake Blow it Up Offseason Thread (update: Robitaille, Blake and Hiller stay)

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Assuming the Kings get into the playoffs next year, all things considered, does anyone truly believe anything can happen?

For the first time, it feels like hopium is in the hospice. The true low ceiling is ready to come crashing down on our slumlord’s Luc and Rob.
 
Ya, that was another thing Dean would probably like to have back. When Ron Hextall left for Philadelphia they should have again looked to someone with no connection to the Kings. That was the beginning of the coup.

Blake never should have been welcomed back in the organization in any capacity. I was going to say he could do an ambassador role like Hull and Mikita did in Chicago, but considering a majority of the fanbase hates him from 2001 and 2007 that probably wouldn't have worked either.

Luc would be great in that role, schmoozing people on the Premier level, he's an outgoing and friendly guy. But what are his qualifications to be President of an NHL club worth almost $2 billion.

Not that it matters but find the prospect of Luc being a man of the people is funny because my only two interactions with him.

I may have posted this but in June 2016 I went to my friend's wedding in Buffalo, NY. My wife had never been to Canada so I took her to Toronto for a few days after the wedding. We went to the HHOF one afternoon. I had no idea until after the fact that the nhl draft was that day. When we left I ordered an Uber and we waited at the curb. While we're waiting a town car pulls up and f***ing Luc Robitaille gets out with another guy. I couldn't believe it...wearing a Kings shirt and hat yell Luuuuuuuuc... he's 20ft from me with nobody else but my wife around. Completely ignores me and walks into the building. I know there was a trade that draft and don't remember who it was. Only mention because i figured after the fact he was handling some sort of business. my f***ing wife laughed at me the rest of the trip because he ignored me.

Same experience at la live in the afternoon before a night game on weekday a few years later.

The first selfie I ever took was with Dave Taylor on the 300 level in 2006 using a flip phone. He f***ing hated it but he did it.

I would've expected inverse experiences with those two. Luc had two chances! I still like him just not as a business man.
 
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Part of me hopes it gets so bad that they tear down both of their numbers from the rafters. I'm wondering if that would be a first.
 
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Looks like all the preseason games will be out of town. What better way to hide the carcass of this roster than by playing more games in Quebec than LA while fans are trying to figure out whether to give a shit.

The clownish decision streak is unabated and picking up massive steam.
 
I don't know, the Lucic trade was pretty awful. I think a case can be made that it was the worst move of the past 10 years of mostly awful moves by the GM's. Futa told us that's who they were taking, so unless Futa is another Yannetti we can take that as fact.

Barzal is not exactly McDavid, but he would have been an ideal 2nd line center while Kopi was still at the top of his game (Barzal had 80 points as a rookie the same year Kopitar was a Hart finalist) and he is still young enough where he could play with young players if they went the rebuild route.

And we start to go butterfly effect, but it's very likely the Kings aren't going four centers in a row between 2017 and 2020 if they had Barzal. The Kings have spent an enormous amount of draft capital and other assets desperately trying to find someone to play 2C behind Kopi, if this trade isn't made that hole doesn't exist and draft capital can be spent elsewhere.

It was a significant blunder that still hurts the team to this day.
Sure, the Lucic trade sucked. Point being Dean was trying to keep the contending window propped open while Blake moved a 1st round pick (and a legend in Quick) for Gavrikov and then had to move other assets in order to sign him for a grand total of two years, a length of time that will not see the team be a contender.

Blake has had six first round picks in his seven drafts. Only Vilardi and Byfield are impactful NHL players and he traded the former for a boat anchor along with one of his failed first rounders in Kupari. So we are looking at Byfield and Clarke. We can only hope Turcotte can be as good as Trevor Lewis was at this point.

With that said, why the hell is this guy moving a first round pick (and then more to make space to sign him) for a non-difference maker like Gavrikov? That doesn't even get into him moving a 1st along with his best draft pick to date for Fiala.

I'm just going around in circles though. I've banged the drum on how the asset management has been horrific and, again, Management should know its own prospect doesn't have what it takes before the rest of the league does and move on from them before they have no value.

The Gavrikov thing though...like, I think he's a good player but they are down to one more season on his contract and have won three playoff games with him. Two more than the Lucic Kings in one additional postseason. There are bigger things to roast Bowlby about, but this one seems to fly under the radar. The Petersen contract should probably be brought up more as well but PLD is just a total eclipse of ineptitude so I get it.

Blake completely misjudged what he had on his hands going into the 2018-19 season and he has done the same with this roster, starting with the Fiala deal. When I say roster, I'm talking about the prospects as well. I think the first correct assessment I've heard from him was last week when he basically called the team p***yes. Let's hope his eyes are finally open.

Looks like all the preseason games will be out of town. What better way to hide the carcass of this roster than by playing more games in Quebec than LA while fans are trying to figure out whether to give a shit.

The clownish decision streak is unabated and picking up massive steam.
I'm beyond stoked that I don't have to pay for preseason seats I won't use.
 
Ya, that was another thing Dean would probably like to have back. When Ron Hextall left for Philadelphia they should have again looked to someone with no connection to the Kings. That was the beginning of the coup.

Blake never should have been welcomed back in the organization in any capacity. I was going to say he could do an ambassador role like Hull and Mikita did in Chicago, but considering a majority of the fanbase hates him from 2001 and 2007 that probably wouldn't have worked either.

Luc would be great in that role, schmoozing people on the Premier level, he's an outgoing and friendly guy. But what are his qualifications to be President of an NHL club worth almost $2 billion.
I get a feeling that Blake was not his hire but who knows with this organization.
 
if you're putting stock in pagnotta, then yes it's confirmed by his words, but i still feel like people are tiptoeing around it for some reason

a bit nebulous imo, personally i find it REALLY hard to believe that no one in the league last season would even send a bag of pucks this way for him. either blake's asking too much or it's just a continuation of punitive jerking around
 
Luc talking to Uncle Phil.
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The Gavrikov thing though...like, I think he's a good player but they are down to one more season on his contract and have won three playoff games with him. Two more than the Lucic Kings in one additional postseason. There are bigger things to roast Bowlby about, but this one seems to fly under the radar. The Petersen contract should probably be brought up more as well but PLD is just a total eclipse of ineptitude so I get it.
The whole Gavrikov rental trade for a 1st and subsequent haul given up just to overpay him was ridiculous on its own merits. It just flies under the radar because he at least gave the Kings a good 30 or so games and thus pales in comparison to the PLD trade which was a farce from the beginning.
 
The whole Gavrikov rental trade for a 1st and subsequent haul given up just to overpay him was ridiculous on its own merits. It just flies under the radar because he at least gave the Kings a good 30 or so games and thus pales in comparison to the PLD trade which was a farce from the beginning.
He's def overpaid.. i love his attitude.. but his game? What can he do.. he's not fast, he doesnt hit, and he doesnt score. He's good shutdown guy and Ok moving the puck. Chychrun was the type of player the Kings needed in the top 4.. Gav was a poor choice.
 
He's def overpaid.. i love his attitude.. but his game? What can he do.. he's not fast, he doesnt hit, and he doesnt score. He's good shutdown guy and Ok moving the puck. Chychrun was the type of player the Kings needed in the top 4.. Gav was a poor choice.
Wasnt that deal as much for Korpisalo as it was Gavrikov? If Korpisalo was any good for the Kings Blake would have found a way to keep him and overpay him also.
 
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Wasnt that deal as much for Korpisalo as it was Gavrikov? If Korpisalo was any good for the Kings Blake would have found a way to keep him and overpay him also.
Yes it was but he signed Gav for 2 years because im sure he felt it would look bad to give up a first for 2 rentals. Blake couldnt correctly finish a paint by numbers. The color for 2LD was green and he painted red. I havent looked it up by I would wager the Kings top 4D is in the bottom 25% on points and hits in the league.
 
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He's def overpaid.. i love his attitude.. but his game? What can he do.. he's not fast, he doesnt hit, and he doesnt score. He's good shutdown guy and Ok moving the puck. Chychrun was the type of player the Kings needed in the top 4.. Gav was a poor choice.
Kings have plenty of young puck movers on the right side, the left needs to be more of the defensive type.

Chychrun ain’t it.
 
Kings have plenty of young puck movers on the right side, the left needs to be more of the defensive type.

Chychrun ain’t it.
Agree if Blake had the brains to move Roy...If Roy isnt signed, then Gav is a good pairing for Clarke.. and then the top 4 is more balanced (still the top pair is offensively challenged). I just know how these morons operate.. they'll keep Roy and move Spence and stick Clarke on 3RD.
 
Agree if Blake had the brains to move Roy...If Roy isnt signed, then Gav is a good pairing for Clarke.. and then the top 4 is more balanced (still the top pair is offensively challenged). I just know how these morons operate.. they'll keep Roy and move Spence and stick Clarke on 3RD.
There is no reason to bring back Roy for the price he will command, and it’s just yet another example of gross asset mismanagement by this teams brass.

Next year should see

Anderson-Drew
Gavvy-Clarke
Englund-Spence

as the opening night pairs. Ideally, you see an upgrade on that bottom pairs left side, but it’s at least a start in teething the future cornerstones of this teams blue line.
 
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I agree with those getting the feeling the Kings French Connection kLuc, Bergervin and Brisson were the real deal pushers for Dumbois.

Gavy was not worthy it since he provides little offense especially after his injury.

Roy ain't gonna be worth it.

I would focus on Arviddson, who may not cost that much after being out so much.

Hiller was a disappointing hire but that's what you get when your still paying Koala.

Indeed it is a low point after only one win following the 6 and 7 games series in the prior seasons.

I can't even read most of the posters here gleefully rooting for the Kings to lose.


It looks to be a rough year with the addition of inexperienced youth, the loss of Roy, no real #1 goaltender, and being very difficult to sign or trade for one

without paying massively.

Blake will probably not be extended, and wouldn't stay anyway with the French Connection using him as a sock puppet.

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Kings have plenty of young puck movers on the right side, the left needs to be more of the defensive type.

Chychrun ain’t it.
I would argue that Chychrun is it

My reasons are:

we need defenseman that can actually move pucks up and get them to the forwards.

We need a true number two defenseman to play with Doughty to help take some of the offense load off him up top and be able to play the top defenseman can.

I love Anderson, but he’s at best number four defenseman. He has no offense capability at all.

The reason I like Chychrun is he a lot like Doughty where he’s good at just about everything but not superior. I think the two would balance each other out on the top line really good.

Allows Anderson to move down with Clarke giving Clarke the defensive anchor he needs. He is superior to Doughty offensively but his defense is suspect. Having Matty back there would be awesome for him.

That leaves Gav doing the same thing for Spence. Give Spence a little more freedom to make mistakes and bring that offensive game out.

Then we can have Englund dress as a number seven in the lineup if there’s any injuries or we play a big team. I’d be interested to see if they would use them as a forward once in a while as well
 
I would argue that Chychrun is it

My reasons are:

we need defenseman that can actually move pucks up and get them to the forwards.

We need a true number two defenseman to play with Doughty to help take some of the offense load off him up top and be able to play the top defenseman can.

I love Anderson, but he’s at best number four defenseman. He has no offense capability at all.

The reason I like Chychrun is he a lot like Doughty where he’s good at just about everything but not superior. I think the two would balance each other out on the top line really good.

Allows Anderson to move down with Clarke giving Clarke the defensive anchor he needs. He is superior to Doughty offensively but his defense is suspect. Having Matty back there would be awesome for him.

That leaves Gav doing the same thing for Spence. Give Spence a little more freedom to make mistakes and bring that offensive game out.

Then we can have Englund dress as a number seven in the lineup if there’s any injuries or we play a big team. I’d be interested to see if they would use them as a forward once in a while as well
We have a cost controlled Blue-Chip prospect in Clarke, who has produced prodigiously at every level, and has done it with moxy to boot. That is the future.

You simply must give him the minutes to become the player he needs to be, and take advantage of his cost. Adding another high-dollar player to road block him is the exact type of thing that has stagnated the forwards so badly.

Is Chychrun a good player in a vacuum? Absolutely.

Is he a good fit for the needs of this team going forward? Certainly not.
 
There is no reason to bring back Roy for the price he will command
That’s exactly why they’ll do it though. Hoven has been hinting that they’ll try to sign Roy and that Spence isn’t in their future plans since the season ended, which tracks perfectly with BLuc’s moves over the past three years.
 
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That’s exactly why they’ll do it though. Hoven has been hinting that they’ll try to sign Roy and that Spence isn’t in their future plans since the season ended, which tracks perfectly with BLuc’s moves over the past three years.
Hoven is the mouthpiece that does the pre-rollout apologetics for their inane decisions... I bet thats what happens
 
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