Hawkaholic
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The Bruins have scored 5 more goals than the Hawks in 2 more GP, with much more NHL talent. People think Monty is going to come in here and make this a better offensive team?
Fire Luke Richardson
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TLEH
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Monty is a hell of a coach
That Bs team had no business being as good as they were the past two years
Ulmark and Swayman are system goalies
The roster especially last year and this year is mediocre. They are playing Tyler Johnson in the top 6 and Zadarov (who I like) on the top pair with McCavoy. Apparently Mcavoy all of a sudden is having a terrible year. Z is a 4/5 D man and Johnson is a 13th forward at best
That Bs team had no business being as good as they were the past two years
Ulmark and Swayman are system goalies
The roster especially last year and this year is mediocre. They are playing Tyler Johnson in the top 6 and Zadarov (who I like) on the top pair with McCavoy. Apparently Mcavoy all of a sudden is having a terrible year. Z is a 4/5 D man and Johnson is a 13th forward at best
Are you telling me that the players are unable to execute a cohesive forecheck or cycle? Perhaps they can't play a heavy game but they should be able to play positionally sound.
On another note, how many odd man rushes do they have? (hard for me to glean from the highlights)
Not many I would suspect. Why? They don't do quick regroups and when I do catch a game they are often rushing 2 on 3 or 4.
TLEH
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The system is designed to reduce odd man chances in general.
They scored 179 last year, on pace for 196 this year. Last years Sharks out scored us. They’re also out scoring us again this year.
They scored 179 last year, on pace for 196 this year. Last years Sharks out scored us. They’re also out scoring us again this year.
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Kevin Musto
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Not really.
Their D lineup is basically the same as Chicago's.
In terms of forwards they have like one more impact forward than Chicago. Which becomes equal once Chicago calls up Nazar.
All things considered, their record right now is better than their roster.
Actually he didn't. The season after Hitch left was nearly identical to Monty's 1st season. The league standings are what got the Stars into the playoffs for Monty. And when he left, Bowness actually had more success.
He inherited a very good Stars and Bruins team, not a rebuilding type of coach IMO.
ColbyChaos
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Turning around Dallas what kind of post is this? It would be like keeping Eberflus over Harbaugh lol
Most of the bruins talent is on the back end. That forward group is not even miles above ours
THIS
I keep hearing about how bad Boston has been and how much they’ve underachieved and then I look at that roster and I’m like “ummmmm what were they expecting??”
But even their blue line is extremely flawed because of the lack of mobility. They’re all big and slow.
Hattrick Kane
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Hawkaholic
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Pastrnak, Marchand, Coyle, Zacha, Lindholm
Vs
Bedard, Teravainen, Bertuzzi, Hall, Dickenson?
Lol it's most defintely better, and their blue line is much better.
Hawkaholic
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Their best player is far better than any player we have, their 2nd best player is better than everyone not named Bedard, their top dman is better than ours, and so on. They are underperforming, lol.
Anyone is gonna look good forward wise compared to this Hawks team.
Compare what the B's have to any current playoff contender or any of the other B's rosters from the previous decade+ and its incredibly weak. Marchand and Zacha getting old, noticeably a step slower. Coyle and Lindholm are solid 2nd liners but other than that they were never gonna replicate the production they had last season from the group of Geekie/Frederick/Coyle as they all overachieved last season and it created this false sense of expectations for them this year, when in reality they were due to regress. That on top of Marchand and Zacha also losing a step has left them with essentially one elite level forward. They've been used to having 3+ for a while. They were also decimated at the center position by losing Bergeron/Krejci.
Couple this with McAvoy's continued decline offensively, (Hampus)Lindholm's continued overall decline, the fact that they were already overly big and slow...and then added Zadorov. Lost one of their goalies. Its a mediocre roster. Still much better than the Hawks bad roster, but also much worse than they've been in a LONG time. And it cost the coach his job, when none of it was his fault. Just the reality of the business I suppose.
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deytookerjaabs
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It's hard to gauge Hall because of injury what ifs...
But, Teuvo & Bert I've seen both be much more tenacious on the puck than they have been in total this year. Not good.
And, the scratches? Players are usually coming back worse after a benching beyond Reichel's one or two games.
Also not good.
We're not getting routinely blown out by 5 goals so that's cool. But I still think we are also not getting optimal effort where it counts and you could say the same of many teams. We're also seeing poor deployment choices as well, IMO.
I think Lu was brought in to field the tank while focusing on responsible play so it's hard to say where management sits on this. But, it feels like there's regression yet the team added many minutes worth more of NHL caliber players so you'd expect a higher baseline.
But, Teuvo & Bert I've seen both be much more tenacious on the puck than they have been in total this year. Not good.
And, the scratches? Players are usually coming back worse after a benching beyond Reichel's one or two games.
Also not good.
We're not getting routinely blown out by 5 goals so that's cool. But I still think we are also not getting optimal effort where it counts and you could say the same of many teams. We're also seeing poor deployment choices as well, IMO.
I think Lu was brought in to field the tank while focusing on responsible play so it's hard to say where management sits on this. But, it feels like there's regression yet the team added many minutes worth more of NHL caliber players so you'd expect a higher baseline.
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Kevin Musto
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This team is likely going to finish with a worse record than last season, and they improved the roster pretty significantly... He's a dogshit coach. If you keep him for the season, this team is probably guaranteed a top 2 pick. But it sure would be nice to have some kind of work ethic, culture, or system in place for the young players...
TLEH
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I think barring something awful he’s here the whole year but if there really isn’t any improvement i think they likely can him
Hawkaholic
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Perfect, keep him for the season. The next coach can teach the young kids hopefully, as of right now there is really only 2 guys that we should care about moving forward 3-5 years (Bedard and Vlasic) and they'll be fine. Guys like Kaiser and Allan are nice to have, but our future won't depend on them.
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Turk will always be my first choice, i'd also love Boudreau as well, But I would take Montgomery in a heartbeat no question
The season before we drafted Bedard, we had the third-worst record in the NHL and jumped to the #1 pick via the lottery.
Last season, we finished with the second-worst record and held firm in the draft slot.
If the season ended today, we'd have the best odds to get the #1 pick again because we have the worst record.
Perhaps I'm over-simplifying it, but the Blackhawks were a bottom-three club before Bedard, finished one spot worse after getting him, and then after a summer of adding a couple decent pieces like Turbo, Bertuzzi, and some other vets to the mix, they now stand at the bottom of the barrel. I have - nor did - any grand illusions this was anywhere near a playoff club, but I was hoping we could at least have some improvement in the standings instead of continuing to foster a culture of losing. It seems like a very boring system where your skill guys can't even produce anything in the goal-scoring department. I was hoping for baby steps in the standings this year, and we aren't even getting that. Does anyone think this roster on paper is worse than last year or two years ago? They had Kane and Toews for some of the season two years ago, so I'll give anyone that. To be this bad again is "good" in the sense that you'll get another top pick, but at what point is it going to translate on the ice. I have a good feeling there will be a lot of the kids up next season, so maybe some of the veteran stopgaps being replaced by them will make the product more fun and productive.
I just look at Bedard's development and currently see some good things, but also a lot of frustration. Is this going to be a fun system that allows for people like Nazar to come up and do what they do best?
Last season, we finished with the second-worst record and held firm in the draft slot.
If the season ended today, we'd have the best odds to get the #1 pick again because we have the worst record.
Perhaps I'm over-simplifying it, but the Blackhawks were a bottom-three club before Bedard, finished one spot worse after getting him, and then after a summer of adding a couple decent pieces like Turbo, Bertuzzi, and some other vets to the mix, they now stand at the bottom of the barrel. I have - nor did - any grand illusions this was anywhere near a playoff club, but I was hoping we could at least have some improvement in the standings instead of continuing to foster a culture of losing. It seems like a very boring system where your skill guys can't even produce anything in the goal-scoring department. I was hoping for baby steps in the standings this year, and we aren't even getting that. Does anyone think this roster on paper is worse than last year or two years ago? They had Kane and Toews for some of the season two years ago, so I'll give anyone that. To be this bad again is "good" in the sense that you'll get another top pick, but at what point is it going to translate on the ice. I have a good feeling there will be a lot of the kids up next season, so maybe some of the veteran stopgaps being replaced by them will make the product more fun and productive.
I just look at Bedard's development and currently see some good things, but also a lot of frustration. Is this going to be a fun system that allows for people like Nazar to come up and do what they do best?
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Not as long as Luke is here.
TLEH
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Main problem remains that they aren’t competing for a playoff spot next year either and I don’t want a coach coming in that’s going to do everything possible to win. You don’t want a Torts situation.
I’m definitely on board with Richardson isn’t the guy but the timing isn’t right. You could even argue the true timing is after next year. But I’m not sure we can wait that long if the improvements are lacking at the end of the year.
I’m definitely on board with Richardson isn’t the guy but the timing isn’t right. You could even argue the true timing is after next year. But I’m not sure we can wait that long if the improvements are lacking at the end of the year.
Hattrick Kane
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I do have a coach in mind if the Hawks go very young next year, but I might get shit for it.
DJ Smith. He couldn’t get the Senators over the line obviously. But by all accounts, he’s amazing with developing the young guys and bringing them up to the NHL level and playing at that level on a consistent basis.
That’s the kind of coach you need for a young developing team. Not a Richardson type, who was best known for just getting grinding teams to play a grinding game.
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