Proposal: Fire Jeff Jackson

[Fishy McScales]

Wouldn't be the Oilers board if someone shouldn't be fired.

Do we know that Jackson is good or bad at what he does? He wasn't a great interim GM but he's not the GM so people must want him fired for something else and I legit have no idea what it is because I have zero insight into his daily operations.

Enlighten me?

 

[midnightcopper]

Wouldn't be the Oilers board if someone shouldn't be fired.

Do we know that Jackson is good or bad at what he does? He wasn't a great interim GM but he's not the GM so people must want him fired for something else and I legit have no idea what it is because I have zero insight into his daily operations.

Enlighten me?

Well, Fishy (and pardon me for assuming we know each other on a first name basis), the object of a GM, or interim GM is to make the team better. Letting someone go who scores 26 goals and 37 assists on a medicore Blues team, is not a good start. I was angry then, and I'm still angry now...so I want someone who makes a lot of money making dumb decisions fired. Not sure if it's enlightening, but it can be therapeutic.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Well, Fishy (and pardon me for assuming we know each other on a first name basis), the object of a GM, or interim GM is to make the team better. Letting someone go who scores 26 goals and 37 assists on a medicore Blues team, is not a good start. I was angry then, and I'm still angry now...so I want someone who makes a lot of money making dumb decisions fired. Not sure if it's enlightening, but it can be therapeutic.

Yes, we saw that he shouldn't be the GM. He isn't the GM. He wasn't hired to be the GM.

He is CEO of hockey ops. No one is providing a reason for why he shouldn't be CEO of hockey ops, just for why he shouldn't be GM, which, again, he isn't.

 

[harpoon]

He gave insulting offers that made us virtually guaranteed to lose Holloway and Broberg, and all to add Skinner and Arvidsson. Jackson is utterly clueless.

Broberg was not coming back at any price. I don’t know why people keep posting as if he wanted to stay with the Oilers. It seems pretty clear that he had his feels hurt by the fact that he wasn’t handed the spot on the roster that his big head felt he deserved. This in spite of the fact that he played like a wimp with no confidence in moving the puck every time the Oilers gave him a chance. The year in the AHL was precisely what he needed. When he hit the ice in the playoffs last year he looked like a changed player. Skating the puck up ice with confidence, making crisp passes. He performed very well in the most pressure filled situation in pro hockey. It’s obvious that he’s too dumb to realize that he should be thanking the Oilers for giving him the chance to develop properly. Not only was he never coming back, he hates the Oilers so much that he went and convinced Holloway to join him in the OS gambit.

So let’s not blame Jackson for Broberg. Holloway? Yeah, that might be partly Jackson’s fault. But let’s not kid ourselves. Holloway was all about getting the quick money and I don’t think Broberg had much trouble twisting his rubber arm to go along with him.

The real fail by Jackson was giving multi year over priced deals with trade protection to Arvidsson and Henrique. That was just monumentally stupid. Even if Holloway wanted to chase the quick money, the team could have done better than Arvidsson and Henrique for $7 million.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Broberg was not coming back at any price. I don’t know why people keep posting as if he wanted to stay with the Oilers. It seems pretty clear that he had his feels hurt by the fact that he wasn’t handed the spot on the roster that his big head felt he deserved. This in spite of the fact that he played like a wimp with no confidence in moving the puck every time the Oilers gave him a chance. The year in the AHL was precisely what he needed. When he hit the ice in the playoffs last year he looked like a changed player. Skating the puck up ice with confidence, making crisp passes. He performed very well in the most pressure filled situation in pro hockey. It’s obvious that he’s too dumb to realize that he should be thanking the Oilers for giving him the chance to develop properly. Not only was he never coming back, he hates the Oilers so much that he went and convinced Holloway to join him in the OS gambit.

So let’s not blame Jackson for Broberg. Holloway? Yeah, that might be partly Jackson’s fault. But let’s not kid ourselves. Holloway was all about getting the quick money and I don’t think Broberg had much trouble twisting his rubber arm to go along with him.

The real fail by Jackson was giving multi year over priced deals with trade protection to Arvidsson and Henrique. That was just monumentally stupid. Even if Holloway wanted to chase the quick money, the team could have done better than Arvidsson and Henrique for $7 million.

Agree with the overall points but I wouldn't lop in Henrique with Arvidsson.

Henrique had already been part of a final run, and this year he was an experienced third-liner without PP time who was 50 xG% through the first three rounds before everyone's game took a hit against Florida. For 3M I don't have a problem with that.

Arvidsson was a clear swing and a miss, though. Nowhere near the 25-goal scorer with grit and tenacity they were hoping for. Snowpants 2.0 who was a HS through half the playoffs.

I think he's tradeable, though, without giving up anything significant or we might even get a C-level prospect or late pick in return. You could get a rebuilding team to take a chance that he has a bit of a bounce back and they can flip him at the deadline. Sell Arvid on the idea and he might waive after his failure here.

 

[Jumptheshark]

so we now have threads on the main page, sacking the coach, gm, Prez and I think the goaltending coach one is lurking down below somewhere. It is going to be a long off season

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Ray Ferraro called it out on an interview with Rishaug at the beginning of the playoffs that losing Holloway was a big mistake. Broberg and Holloway were high number one draft picks, and I don't see many of those growing on trees in Edmonton. Although not the most productive players, Foegele and McLeod anchored one of the most successful penalty kills in NHL history. Yes, let them go, too. If I were the owner, heads would roll, but I'm not. We are giving our opinions on a fan board, but these guys are making millions to make bad decisions. Not sure if too much damage has been done.

I still understand why they let Broberg walk, but letting Holloway walk over that amount was ridiculously dumb.

 

[McJadeddog]

I still understand why they let Broberg walk, but letting Holloway walk over that amount was ridiculously dumb.

This is certainly the general consensus at this point. Broberg never rescinded his trade request from earlier in the year, so he was going to be very difficult to resign. Holloway loved it here though and was from Alberta. Letting him go for a perceived $500k overpayment was very dumb. All we have done is take the 2nd rounder we got for him, trade it for a, older, less talented player in Frederic, and are now about to pay Frederic about $1.25 M more more than Holloway makes. So we traded Holloway for Frederic plus took on about $1.25 M in cap. Pretty terrible asset and cap management.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

This is certainly the general consensus at this point. Broberg never rescinded his trade request from earlier in the year, so he was going to be very difficult to resign. Holloway loved it here though and was from Alberta. Letting him go for a perceived $500k overpayment was very dumb. All we have done is take the 2nd rounder we got for him, trade it for a, older, less talented player in Frederic, and are now about to pay Frederic about $1.25 M more more than Holloway makes. So we traded Holloway for Frederic plus took on about $1.25 M in cap. Pretty terrible asset and cap management.

This is pretty standard stuff for this franchise though. Also we only got a third rounder for Holloway which just makes it look even worse.

Even with Broberg the Oilers obviously never expected an offer sheet. I would have been hesitant to match his but they should've sat him down and tried to smooth things out and if he wasn't going to stay, trade him. You definitely would've gotten something better than a second for him.