Proposal: Fire DJ Smith

Should the Sens fire DJ Smith?


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3 games under .500 ....I know I know....but aside from a couple teams that are far too ahead the majority of teams that are out can get right in the mix if they have a solid 10 game stretch
Problem with that ( having a solid ten game stretch) is that they’ll have to play at the pace of a solid ten game stretch for the remainder of the season, just to challenge for a wildcard spots….. and those are long odds.

today, the Sens chances of making the playoffs sit at 17.1%….
 
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If it's an execution problem..then 3/4 of the team is dumb, can't hockey and needs to be removed....or DJ can't coach.
I think it's accountability/execution/inexperience. They're tied together, I don't think DJ is a bad coach i actually quite like him but maybe some players need a new voice. Teams with strong systematical play withstand injuries better. They don't make as many aggregeous errors at important times of the game. The teams attention to detail is very poor from an NHL standard.
 
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I think it's accountability/execution/inexperience. They're tied together, I don't think DJ is a bad coach i actually quite like him but maybe some players need a new voice. Teams with strong systematical play withstand injuries better. They don't make as many aggregeous errors at important times of the game. The teams attention to detail is very poor from an NHL standard.
Again Bang On. DJ is not a bad coach and will get another HC shot at some point but teams need new voices sometimes. I’m a proponent of cycling through assistants to keep the message fresh.
 
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I think it's accountability/execution/inexperience. They're tied together, I don't think DJ is a bad coach i actually quite like him but maybe some players need a new voice. Teams with strong systematical play withstand injuries better. They don't make as many aggregeous errors at important times of the game. The teams attention to detail is very poor from an NHL standard.
I was being dramatic. Everything you said is fair. Somebody, Dave Poulin?, said about the bruins...players don't unlearn things, they add to what they know. The Bruins have a layering of knowledge, Claude Julian, Bruce Cassidy and now Montgomery is adding to that. That's why the Bruins keep rolling along every year. Our core players only have DJ.
 
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I know this is the DJ thread, but the amount of people ripping on DBC is a bit ridiculous.

the guy is 4th on the team in points behind our number 1 line, while playing with a centre who is currently on pace for 7 (SEVEN) assists all year.

Even still, the "VERY UNDER PERFORMING" DBC and Batherson each have 19 points in 24 games.

On pace for 65 points each, on the 2nd line! and yet we're treating DBC like he isn't worth the price we paid or are currently paying him...

Guys, he currently makes 6.4!!!!!! Everyone is evaluating him based on an arbitrary QO that, newsflash, he clearly isn't worth, but we also AREN'T REQUIRED TO SIGN HIM TO IT!

If we can't come to agreeable terms, far lower than the 9M QO, then trade him! it isn't that hard.

Also, if he isn't willing to sign for like... 7-7.5 after only scoring 25 ish goals, then clearly he isn't looking for a competitive team, and just wants the bag. so trade him.
If you have been watching the games, all those one goal losses are amplified when DBC is missing golden opportunities. Or Batherson playing horribly defensive. The margins are that tight and , between those two, they have probably accounted for 6 points or more in the standings
 

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I think it's accountability/execution/inexperience. They're tied together, I don't think DJ is a bad coach i actually quite like him but maybe some players need a new voice. Teams with strong systematical play withstand injuries better. They don't make as many aggregeous errors at important times of the game. The teams attention to detail is very poor from an NHL standard.
I can agree on those three points. I would reverse the order of importance : inexperience/execution/accountability. I think it is hard to make inexperienced players accountable as they are learning.
 

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I can agree on those three points. I would reverse the order of importance : inexperience/execution/accountability. I think it is hard to make inexperienced players accountable as they are learning.
Well there are many other teams that are managing to do it that are younger than Ottawa. It starts with accountability.
 

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Hmmm. Time being coached by DJ.
Brady, Batherson, Chabot, Brann - 3 years + this year
Watson, Stu, Zub - 2 years + this year
Zaitsev - whole NHL career

Seasoned veterans who have played for multiple coaches - Giroux, Brassard, Hamonic

None of them can play his system?
Not enough experience
 

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Well there are many other teams that are managing to do it that are younger than Ottawa. It starts with accountability.
Ottawa’s key players are all young. You take Hamonic and Holden out of the lineup, and the age average plummets.

Benching Drake or Timmy on a missed assignment will solve what, exactly? Brady misses covering a point shot. You making the captain miss a few shifts to think about his mistake? The core is very young and if you have other ideas about how to make them accountable, would love to hear it
 

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Ottawa’s key players are all young. You take Hamonic and Holden out of the lineup, and the age average plummets.

Benching Drake or Timmy on a missed assignment will solve what, exactly? Brady misses covering a point shot. You making the captain miss a few shifts to think about his mistake? The core is very young and if you have other ideas about how to make them accountable, would love to hear it
Benching is a last resort but there are a few times they likely should have taken advantage of that card, does Batherson no look drop pass to no one on Wednesday if he is sat down after the first goal? Hard to say but he definitely doesnt play like he cares if he makes a mistake. It starts day to day in practice, at the rink, taking care of your body etc. Setting a specific standard that is well understood is how you build a culture where accountability isnt even a question or conversation its expected.
 
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Well there are many other teams that are managing to do it that are younger than Ottawa. It starts with accountability.
I think the issue with Ottawa's youth is more to do with where the youth is, and where the vets are. Our vets for the most part are bottom pair D (Holden, Hamonic, Zaitsev), goaltending (Talbot and Forsberg) and bottom six guys (Brassard, Watson)

The only Vet that is in a prominent role as a skater is Giroux.

If we want vets to be a steadying presence, we need to have experience in the top 4 D roles, and ideally at center in the top 6. Based on the team we've assembled, that's going to likely come mostly from time rather than external adds.
 
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Benching is a last resort but there are a few times they likely should have taken advantage of that card, does Batherson no look drop pass to no one on Wednesday if he is sat down after the first goal? Hard to say but he definitely doesnt play like he cares if he makes a mistake. It starts day to day in practice, at the rink, taking care of your body etc. Setting a specific standard that is well understood is how you build a culture where accountability isnt even a question or conversation its expected.
You don't bench a young player for a game because of one or an infrequent mistake; however, you do if the mistake is being made quite often.
 

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Aside from a couple waiver pickups, this team is highly skilled. But something is holding them back…


Pack yer shit DJ.
 
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Didnt we go on a 10 game losing streak?
Not sure firing him at this point matters. They wouldnt hire anyone until the offseason and after the sale and interim head coach Capuano is not going to be the panacea to this teams woes.
 

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Been time for a while. New voice and ideas for this group to learn from would be nice. Would help identify which players to keep going forward as well.
 

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My hopefulness of firing DJ peaked, then dwindled to acceptance and depression

Terrible coach but nothing gonna change

Just gotta watch another wasted year then Dorion and DJ can get the boot

If the long losing streak didn’t do it he’s here for the season for sure.
 

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DJ has shown once again he can't coach this team.

He can't adjust the lines.

His defensive system doesn't broken.

He is a AHL coach at best.

He makes so many mistakes is not even funny.

I done with this fool, I seen more then enough.

I don't care if players like him or not, this is not a popularity game.

His time has come and gone. He has more excuses then Donald Trump.

I know he will be fired by PD or the new owners but if PD does not do it , he will be firing himself also.

Adios DJ, your done at the end of this season.

Back to the OHL for you!
 
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