Easy peasy......add Dj's payout to the Sen's sale price..........done, done and done!
Proposal: Fire DJ Smith
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Easy peasy......add Dj's payout to the Sen's sale price..........done, done and done!
SpezDispenser
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How does he still have a job? I just don't understand. Dorion didn't fix defence, but still...
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Brady Tkachuk fires back at fans calling for DJ Smith to be fired.
Tkachuk is not having it.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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Welcome to pro sports Brady. You can "take responsibility" all you want, but a team not performing usually leads to your coach getting canned, especially when its years running.Brady Tkachuk fires back at fans calling for DJ Smith to be fired.
Tkachuk is not having it.www.hockeyfeed.com
Nobody’s serious until they have a players-only meeting. That’s DEFCON 1, until we hear that, they’re just playing.
If the team strategy changes to focus on playing without the puck and defence first, then the defence will improve with lower shots against and lower GA; however, offence will likely suffer with GF declining. That is what occurred under Guy Boucher when he started here with neutral zone defending and limited forechecking in the O zone. We seem to have better offensive players now on the roster so the drop in GF might not be as significant as it was with the Boucher era roster.
We are all "armchair quarterbacks"; however, I think some of the posters here make VG comments.
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Dear Alfie, we might be in deeper shit than I thought. If the players think coaching is getting every bit of potential out of this group, then this whole rebuild is a FAILURE
Don't you realize Brady? If he's "sick and tired" of the negativity he was seeing around the head coach on social media... please Alfie save us
I'm not considering Formenton anymore. His name will need to get cleared first
We need defense badly and we need the guys that we have to be healthy and playing up to their usual standard.
Chabot injured, Zub missing some games, Pinto now injured, Norris is out, Formenton is not here, Talbot was out for a while. This is through 15 or so games in the season. We're missing a lot of pieces. We don't have the depth on D to lose anyone and losing Norris and Formenton takes away a lot of what we did in the offseason.
I didn't think we'd make the playoffs even as a fully healthy team, probably on the fence, so it makes sense that we're struggling with all these injuries. A lot of close games.
I don't think it's necessarily fair to blame DJ for our record but I do think he deserves some blame for some of his decision making.
Chabot injured, Zub missing some games, Pinto now injured, Norris is out, Formenton is not here, Talbot was out for a while. This is through 15 or so games in the season. We're missing a lot of pieces. We don't have the depth on D to lose anyone and losing Norris and Formenton takes away a lot of what we did in the offseason.
I didn't think we'd make the playoffs even as a fully healthy team, probably on the fence, so it makes sense that we're struggling with all these injuries. A lot of close games.
I don't think it's necessarily fair to blame DJ for our record but I do think he deserves some blame for some of his decision making.
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Look at Winnipeg parting ways with Paul Maurice. Ended up well for both of them. Change up is so necessary at this point, it might have saved our season 2 weeks ago.
Gil Gunderson
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A lot teams fire their coaches before taking the next step. Remember when the Caps were basically the favourites for Stamkos before Boudreau arrived? Or LA and Chicago with Sutter and Quenneville?
Yak
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DJ will be toasted after this year. Maybe we demote him to Belleville so he can hang out with the elite defensemen Zaitsev.
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Thing I just don't see the difference between Hamonic and a "real" top 4 D would propel us from being bad to good.
Yes we need to improve the D, but the team as if stands now is good enough to be a playoff squad IMO, DJ and injuries are holding us back.
YouGotAStuGoing
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Yeah! If the approach here is that this is the best the team can perform, I have no idea how you'd even start to triage what this team does well and what it needs help with. Otherwise, why not bring in someone who can help them achieve closer to their potential so that analysis is a little closer to reality and meaningful changes can be made?
I suspect it's the business side keeping DJ in his coaching seat more than anything. At this stage, unless things go way more off the rails he's a lame duck until new ownership takes over.
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Ferraro was on a podcast(can't remember which one) but he was mentioning that from every coach you play for, you learn different things, and changing coaches can make the players become better even if it's a lateral move.
So from that perspective, you might decide that the group has learned what they can from DJ and it's time to bring in some fresh lessons to learn.
Yak
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This is so true , DJ is a great young players coach but we all have said he is not a next level coach. Time for a X and O's experienced coach. Trotz, Quenville and maybe Julien. Someone who knows what defensive system/ structure is.
I don't care if players like DJ, I had lots of girlfriends I liked a lot but they were not marriage material. DJ is not a coach you know is going to get us over the next hump. Lack of experience and systems.
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Who says Dorion wasnt and that an equivalent star calibre RHD was available?
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Can someone legitimately say with 100% confidence that if DJ and Dorion were let go today that they'd be able to find another job in the NHL with the same job titles?
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If we get incredibly lucky and get Bedard, we could package one of Norris/Pinto and a pick/prospect for a top pairing RD.
I think DJ will probably find another job as HC at some point when he's canned. He's a players coach and he had the team playing hard every night even though we had one of the worst player groups in the NHL with injuries, the worst goaltending for a while, and one of the worst defense hands down. With the little amount of talent we had back then, we were rarely getting blown out like we should've. He was patient with the young players and I believe he has the right approach taking things one step at a time, development is so important at that stage we were in.
I get people are mad right now that we're not winning but if you look at these rosters from previous years nobody does much better (if at all) with the hand he was dealt. I also see people pointing out his winning percentage as coach, to me that's a useless thing to look at if you don't consider the surrounding circumstances. Again, put any coach there and they don't do much better if at all.
Now, I agree with most here. I don't see him as the guy to take us to the next level. It's unfortunate because there seems to be a great culture in that room and DJ is certainly a part of that .... but there's too much pressure to win right now and Dorion will need to do something before long. Some guys need to step up and I think the roster we have in place won't change drastically going forward other than some bottom 6 guys getting swapped for younger players. If the results aren't there then changing the coach is the quickest way to attempt to turn things around.
I get people are mad right now that we're not winning but if you look at these rosters from previous years nobody does much better (if at all) with the hand he was dealt. I also see people pointing out his winning percentage as coach, to me that's a useless thing to look at if you don't consider the surrounding circumstances. Again, put any coach there and they don't do much better if at all.
Now, I agree with most here. I don't see him as the guy to take us to the next level. It's unfortunate because there seems to be a great culture in that room and DJ is certainly a part of that .... but there's too much pressure to win right now and Dorion will need to do something before long. Some guys need to step up and I think the roster we have in place won't change drastically going forward other than some bottom 6 guys getting swapped for younger players. If the results aren't there then changing the coach is the quickest way to attempt to turn things around.
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Ottawa has has had 9 coaches since the last coach let go by the Sens was rehired as a head coach elsewhere (Jacques Martin).
It’s unlikely that streak is broken with Smith.
bert
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To me Dorion is the problem more than DJ. I Really don't think he should be the one making anymore trades or choosing a coach. Seasons done let the new ownership pick a management team. Who gets to pick a new coach etc.
Sucks but that's the reality of where this franchise is. It's for sale.
I like DJ he wasn't given anything to work with until this season. But I think his message had got stale, the losing streak was the nail in the coffin and he lost the room. They are playing worse game by game now. Less effort and accountability. It's hard to watch. They actually played well the first 6 games. I think it was the Vancouver game where they lost all hope.
Anyway it's sad but it is what it is. They've tuned him out. We don't need a Vancouver situation where it's a lame duck coach that wasn't picked by the new GM.
Maybe they promote Mann? Only temporary situation I see as making sense.
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Anyone holding their breath, thinking new ownership/group will purchase, and take control of the Ottawa franchise, and immediately fire the Coach, GM, scouts and Sparticat, should put those thoughts on hold.
PD might decide, on his own, to make a coaching change, but new ownership is not about to take control anytime soon.
from Sunday….
”We’ve been led to believe the website will be shut down Dec. 31, with bidding to open on New Year’s Day. It could move quickly from there, and, depending on how the league’s vetting process, we could have a good idea by mid-January who will purchase the Senators.
From there, completing the paperwork could take four to six months, but everybody involved here is hoping a deal will be finalized by June. That would be a best-case scenario as the clock is ticking with the NCC wanting to have a lease agreement done by September.”
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PD might decide, on his own, to make a coaching change, but new ownership is not about to take control anytime soon.
from Sunday….
”We’ve been led to believe the website will be shut down Dec. 31, with bidding to open on New Year’s Day. It could move quickly from there, and, depending on how the league’s vetting process, we could have a good idea by mid-January who will purchase the Senators.
From there, completing the paperwork could take four to six months, but everybody involved here is hoping a deal will be finalized by June. That would be a best-case scenario as the clock is ticking with the NCC wanting to have a lease agreement done by September.”
GARRIOCH: Bidding for Senators about to get serious as Ryan Reynolds steps up efforts to be part of a group
It's believed the 46-year-old Canadian actor has talked with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman to express formal interest in the franchise.
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