Proposal: Fire DJ Smith

[Tuna99]

Of course he shares in the responsibility. I just don’t hear any for the players. It is pretty naive, this whole “we weren’t ready to play” shit that you and others gobble up.

I’m not saying that I am not averse to a new coach in the off season. I’m just saying that he is not the reason why the team is not achieving. We have a lot of cheaters on this team, and the next coach will have to deal with that without hurting their itty bitty feelings

Check this seasons files on Chabot, ADB, Batherson. Joseph, Hamonic, Kelly, Kastelic, Brannstrom, Holden, Pinto, Brassard, Sogard, Talbot, Forsbeeg

 

[Mingus Dew]

Of course he shares in the responsibility. I just don’t hear any for the players. It is pretty naive, this whole “we weren’t ready to play” shit that you and others gobble up.

I’m not saying that I am not averse to a new coach in the off season. I’m just saying that he is not the reason why the team is not achieving. We have a lot of cheaters on this team, and the next coach will have to deal with that without hurting their itty bitty feelings

If the coach can’t motivate the players to give effort and not cheat then he needs to go. He has lost the room.

If you bring in a new coach and the same shit keeps happening then you trade the offenders. But for most of the cheaters DJ is the only coach they’ve ever known.

 

[coladin]

If the coach can’t motivate the players to give effort and not cheat then he needs to go. He has lost the room.

If you bring in a new coach and the same shit keeps happening then you trade the offenders. But for most of the cheaters DJ is the only coach they’ve ever known.

And that is my only real issue with DJ. I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen accountability, especially when players like Batherson can continue making the same flybys and cheating in the nuetral zone. But , then again, the GM states we all cannot "imagine" what DJ has had to put up with...and people can make of that what they wish...

 

[Mingus Dew]

And that is my only real issue with DJ. I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen accountability, especially when players like Batherson can continue making the same flybys and cheating in the nuetral zone. But , then again, the GM states we all cannot "imagine" what DJ has had to put up with...and people can make of that what they wish...

Little too cryptic for my taste. Sounds like Dorion making stuff up to defend his BFF.

 

[coladin]

Little too cryptic for my taste. Sounds like Dorion making stuff up to defend his BFF.

Shrugs shoulders...it sounded quite ominous but to each their own

 

[Loach]

Little too cryptic for my taste. Sounds like Dorion making stuff up to defend his BFF.

I can't even find it. Lol. I mean DJ could have hemorroids or trench foot or something.

 

[DueDiligence]

And that is my only real issue with DJ. I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen accountability, especially when players like Batherson can continue making the same flybys and cheating in the nuetral zone. But , then again, the GM states we all cannot "imagine" what DJ has had to put up with...and people can make of that what they wish...

It comes across as a copout. Say some vague comment as an excuse that no one can disprove. But the GM has to take responsibility here:
1) If there are player issues then you deal with them or you could have traded the player.
2) If DJ has personal issues that are affecting his ability to coach give him a leave of absence to deal with them.

Bottom line either the issues are real and they have failed to act upon them or it's just BS to be used as a smokescreen. Either way it's a fail.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Shrugs shoulders...it sounded quite ominous but to each their own

I’m not discounting it fully but I’m also not ready to read into it.

 

[coladin]

I can't even find it. Lol. I mean DJ could have hemorroids or trench foot or something.

Pierre Dorion, post trade deadline media availability, from 15:50 or so,

 

[Micklebot]

Shrugs shoulders...it sounded quite ominous but to each their own

I mean, it could have been referring to anything, could be his own personal issues, was it specifically referencing this season or could it have been talking about his entire tenure here?

 

[coladin]

It comes across as a copout. Say some vague comment as an excuse that no one can disprove. But the GM has to take responsibility here:
1) If there are player issues then you deal with them or you could have traded the player.
2) If DJ has personal issues that are affecting his ability to coach give him a leave of absence to deal with them.

Bottom line either the issues are real and they have failed to act upon them or it's just BS to be used as a smokescreen. Either way it's a fail.

Hey, you can think that, it's all good here

 

[Loach]

Pierre Dorion, post trade deadline media availability, from 15:50 or so,

It sounded like a reference letter for DJ to the new owners. That's ok, to be expected.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Little too cryptic for my taste. Sounds like Dorion making stuff up to defend his BFF.

Either spill the beans or you don't get the benefit of the doubt imo. Its just a vague reference that could mean anything and comes off as an attempt at an excuse without actually disclosing anything.

 

[Xspyrit]

Our first round pick is only top 5 protected this year, so tanking will not do any good. We should try and create the winning mentality and not keep destroying the kids confidence. They need to believe in themselves and enjoy playing games. And if we win the lottery, that's great.

I disagree. The continued progression and development of our core of young players is way more important that drafting a couple draft picks higher in the 2nd round.

too risky with not owning our own picks. Finish as close to the playoffs as possible. Dont give Zona a top 10 pick.

I was being sarcastic as we don't even have a 1st or a 2nd. Not having a pick until the 4th round in a year where you don't make the playoffs is catastrophic

Exactly. We are witnessing in real time how difficult it is to transition from a "rebuilding/tanking season" to a "meaningful games season".

The last thing this team needs is to go back into a tanking mode.

When is the last time we tanked? 2020-21? To draft Tyler Boucher 10th OA. No this team has been trying to make the playoffs for 3 years now. And there is no meaningful games season this season. Sorry, not true, the 2 games against Detroit were. Season is over since that embarrassing 5-0 loss to Chicago

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Of course he shares in the responsibility. I just don’t hear any for the players. It is pretty naive, this whole “we weren’t ready to play” shit that you and others gobble up.

I’m not saying that I am not averse to a new coach in the off season. I’m just saying that he is not the reason why the team is not achieving. We have a lot of cheaters on this team, and the next coach will have to deal with that without hurting their itty bitty feelings

How many people shit on DBC? Batherson? Our entire d-core for the season - especially Brannstrom? Our below average bottom-6?

Players get their fair share of criticism. DJ, deservedly, gets a bigger share of that though.

 

[Xspyrit]

This is the result of the last 6 meaningful games we played :

1-5-0, 15 GF 30 GA

I would rather that these games were not meaningful at all, because hard to choke more than that

 

[swiftwin]

This is the result of the last 6 meaningful games we played :

1-5-0, 15 GF 30 GA

I would rather that these games were not meaningful at all, because hard to choke more than that

What is the point of this post? Why are you saying you wished the team was worse than it actually is? Are you even a fan? Why are you here?

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Whenever our boys attempt to play high-tempo hockey, they bump into one another a lot, mishandle passes, fumble plays, look disorganized in consistent stretches. It is clear that isn't being practiced. When it's a grind game, the boys are GOLDEN AND READY. But even that proves ineffective when you leaning on the likes of DeBrincat and Batherson to consistently come out of the corner with the puck.

 

[swiftwin]

Whenever our boys attempt to play high-tempo hockey, they bump into one another a lot, mishandle passes, fumble plays, look disorganized in consistent stretches. It is clear that isn't being practiced. When it's a grind game, the boys are GOLDEN AND READY. But even that proves ineffective when you leaning on the likes of DeBrincat and Batherson to consistently come out of the corner with the puck.

I thought Batherson was one of our best players last night, throwing his weight around and constantly coming out of corners with the puck.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Labelling the goal as "meaningful games" left the door wide open for interpretation. Something tells me that was probably intentional on Dorion's part. Can't really call it a success or failure based on the ambiguous wording.

Every knows what meaningful meant. Just say you expected this team to make the playoffs and we’re going to be dissapointed if it didn’t and be done with it lol

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I thought Batherson was one of our best players last night, throwing his weight around and constantly coming out of corners with the puck.

Yes, and in his prime (couple years once he grows more into his man body) he will be crazy effective in that respect as well. But he still plays a brilliant finesse game--which he is more known for-- and that is far more important to maximize on than seeing him go out there and try to grind it out in the corners.

Batherson has some of the best creativity in the league, it's being squandered a bit. I wonder how Bratt would look under DJ's dump and grind scheme.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Every knows what meaningful meant. Just say you expected this team to make the playoffs and we’re going to be dissapointed if it didn’t and be done with it lol

It seems like it was not specific enough to be held to anything, even if we all got what they were going for. Purposefully ambiguous. Now they can say mission accomplished even though they may end up closer to the basement than the playoffs. If they'd specifically said playoffs, it would be pointed to as clearly missing their goal.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

It seems like it was not specific enough to be held to anything, even if we all got what they were going for. Purposefully ambiguous. Now they can say mission accomplished even though they may end up closer to the basement than the playoffs.

Okay but in a league with points and 8 teams make the playoffs and those points vary. What hard goal is there? Every year the playoff race is different.

The goal was be in the playoff race at the trade deadline. We absolutely 100% we’re and one of the main players in that race with our games in hand.

 

[Xspyrit]

What is the point of this post? Why are you saying you wished the team was worse than it actually is? Are you even a fan? Why are you here?

Of course, I have 28,676 posts since 2008 from here in Montreal just to troll

The point of that post is really obvious to anyone who doesn't have their head buried in Dorion's butt the sand.

The NHL is not a league where it's good to "participate"... it seems that this isn't clear to everyone.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Okay but in a league with points and 8 teams make the playoffs and those points vary. What hard goal is there? Every year the playoff race is different.

The goal was be in the playoff race at the trade deadline. We absolutely 100% we’re and one of the main players in that race with our games in hand.

I'm talking about their statement of meaningful games as opposed to being more specific, I'm not saying the season is a bust or critiquing that. I'm just saying it was probably a calculated decision to put it vaguely like that. Basically meant it didn't matter where they landed as "meaningful games" is somewhat ambiguous and non committal.