Euro: Final - Spain v. England - July 14

[robertmac43]

Kane shouldn't start regardless of style imo. He's been pedestrian at best.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Confirmed?

Yep

 

[hatterson]

Shaw in for Trippier hardly addresses the main issue with the lack of changes, which has been with the attacking players.

Shaw is also his preferred LB, so it’s not even a real change. It’s just putting in the guy he wanted the whole time but couldn’t because Shaw had a knock.

 

[gary69]

Morata starting means he becomes the Spanish player with most apperances in the Euro finals tournaments with 17. Surprissing the likes of Casillas, Fabregas etc.

 

[ScottishCanuck]

Watched 5 minutes of the BBC pre-match coverage and it's already vomit-inducing.

Put them back in their box Spain. Please.

 

[Shrimper]

Watched 5 minutes of the BBC pre-match coverage and it's already vomit-inducing.

Put them back in their box Spain. Please.

You seem shocked they'd be pro-England

 

[jj cale]

At some point it just becomes an odds thing doesn't it? I mean, how many times can you f*** up without finally getting it right?


But then again, this is England we are talking about.

 

[ScottishCanuck]

You seem shocked they'd be pro-England

Not shocked at all.

I've been subject to the same arrogance (occasionally cloaked in some fake modesty that quickly disappears the second they play a game) every 2 years for as long as I can remember.

 

[jj cale]

Not shocked at all.

I've been subject to the same arrogance (occasionally cloaked in some fake modesty that quickly disappears the second they play a game) every 2 years for as long as I can remember.

They're insufferable.

 

[N o o d l e s]

Sometimes you see things that remind you just how pathetic England are on the word stage. Like today, it’s only their third major final! Third. The level of incompetence is astounding. And it’s their first outside England

 

[ScottishCanuck]

Nice piece about Gareth Southgate though, who I actually like and respect as a guy. Not the most adventurous football manager, but he gets results, regardless of how the draws have fallen his way.

Also amusing given that less than 2 weeks ago they were lobbing beer at him and calling for his head though (many pundits included).

 

[Moncherry]

At some point it just becomes an odds thing doesn't it? I mean, how many times can you f*** up without finally getting it right?


But then again, this is England we are talking about.

If they lose, it will be more because Spain have easily been the best team in tournament, not because they f***ed it up. Spain are clear favorites.

 

[jj cale]

If they lose it will be because Spain have easily been the best team in tournament, not because they f***ed it up.

I am perfectly aware they are capable of losing in both ways. This is what they do.

 

[Evilo]

Shaw in for Trippier hardly addresses the main issue with the lack of changes, which has been with the attacking players.

It's even a bad choice because it helps Yamal come back inside.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Onerepublic? What is this? 2008?

 

[GKJ]

Onerepublic? What is this? 2008?

That’s very nhl of them

 

[Moncherry]

Really expect Spain to dominate this, but we'll see what England can do.

 

[gary69]

 

[cgf]

Rumour is that he indeed plans to start the same line-up, and I'd agree with you that he can't recover from his mistake thi time. Wrong personnel choices similar to what Nagelsmann did with Germay vs Spain.

Sort of weird that top managers in national team football are so fixated and rarely seem to learn. Top club managers are more flexible, although they do have more time and matches to tinker with things.

Some stats trivia before the match: Spain are now only one goal shy of equally tournament record for goals scored, currently held by France team form 1984.

Rice has played most minutes and covered most ground during the tournament so far, so his done the leg work at least.

And finally, has Spain asked for permission to play Yamal after 11 p.m local time Or are they planning to sub him off before that or break the law?

According to German law, underage persons are not allowed to work after 11. So maybe some police officer , sworn to serve the law, will drag him off the pitch at that time But seriously, most likely Spain will have to pay the 30 000 € fine, if even that for breaking the law.

At least Nagelsmann over-tinkered rather than being too slow to react, like most NT managers...but yeah, unless Wirtz health required it, I won't ever understand not starting him.

 

[Ceremony]

I can't bring myself to watch. Good luck everyone.

 

[Sad People]

Call me a contrarian but i dont really care if England wins i just want a good game.

 

[koyvoo]

7-1 to Spain

 

[Jussi]

I can't bring myself to watch. Good luck everyone.

Wuss!

Call me a contrarian but i dont really care if England wins i just want a good game.

Ultimately the same felling here.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I want this to mimic the 2012 Euro finals.

 

[torero]

we will see who win .. .and while i wold also give the victory to Spaniards de to their technical level, remember that they were almost eliminated by the Germans ¨!!! who were on a mission. Well England is capable of the same.
Therefore nothing is played.
I am Swiss .. .IMO we deserved the victory ... like 51%/49% !! very close ... but it went to England ... and England did this to 3 teams ... so don't burry them.
I like them actually.