Euro: Final - Spain v. England - July 14

[1865]

And he'd be stupid to want it. Hyper-expectant public significantly overrating their player material. Media full of pundits and journos who did in fact have their formative years in the 80s and 90s and have those attitudes.

He's managed Liverpool for 8 or 9 years, it sounds like the perfect preparation for the England job by that basis.

The whole thing is kinda far-fetched either way. Klopp's name just gets thrown around because it's an easy way to generate clicks.

I agree that it's far-fetched but it does make some sense. I don't actually think he'd entertain it in reality but it's the kind of job that makes sense for him to take on if he wants a challenge. He broke Liverpool's title drought, can he do the same for England?

 

[Ceremony]

I think some non-UK residents don't quite realise how obnoxious the media can be. So here's an example:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1812553900761006575

 

[Albatros]

He's managed Liverpool for 8 or 9 years, it sounds like the perfect preparation for the England job by that basis.

Except Liverpool faithful would detest that move.

 

[phisherman]

Some wishful thinking going on here

 

[Karterthadon]

England might just go full woke and appoint Sarina Wiegman here

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

It'll be Howe. Would love Poch

 

[Rob]

If the next coach is not foreign it will probably be an FA yes man.

 

[Savant]

He's managed Liverpool for 8 or 9 years, it sounds like the perfect preparation for the England job by that basis.

Except Liverpool faithful would detest that move.

Not my words but to quote someone more local “Only England fans would go to Germany, sing songs about WW2, talk about how much they hate Scousers and how unpatriotic they are; and then beg for Klopp to take over”

 

[Moncherry]

Klopp is going to be like the new Zidane where he gets linked to every job, no matter how unlikely it is. This is already the third NT I've seen him be suggested for.

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

Klopp would be an interesting appointment, but it's so out of touch with reality. He literally said he wants time off and I think that means he doesn't need/want pressure managing at the moment. To take the England job would be counter to everything he has said. It is so unlikely to happen that I can't really understand why it's being considered.

 

[Savant]

Klopp would be an interesting appointment, but it's so out of touch with reality. He literally said he wants time off and I think that means he doesn't need/want pressure managing at the moment. To take the England job would be counter to everything he has said. It is so unlikely to happen that I can't really understand why it's being considered.

Adding to this. There is another super necessary international break around 50 days from now.

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

I do wonder if they appoint Carsley on an interim basis for that break

 

[AlanHUK]

wouldn't surprise me if he's given it until the new year

 

[gary69]

Mamadarshvili, Akanji, Guehi, Kimmich,Cucurella - F.Ruiz, Kroos - Olmo, Yamal, Williams - Gakpo

According to the article, this All star line-up is based on Opta stats, which are detailed for each player individually.

Of course an argument can be made for other players instead, but none of these players had a bad tournament, that much is clear.

Who was the team of Euro 2024? Williams, Yamal, Fabian, Guehi, Olmo, Gakpo

UEFA's official All star -team was announced too. No proper CF in that line-up, Musiala didn't play the position shown.

"Uefa team of the tournament: Mike Maignan (France); Kyle Walker (England), Manuel Akanji (Switzerland), William Saliba (France), Marc Cucurella (Spain); Daniel Olmo (Spain), Rodri (Spain), Fabian Ruiz (Spain); Lamine Yamal (Spain), Jamal Musiala (Germany), Nico Williams (Spain)"

Euro 2024: England's Kyle Walker named in team of tournament alongside six Spain players

I wonder if the trend continues even more into the direction that there won't be any more real CF focal points in the attack.

 

[Evilo]

They tried hard to find an English player to put there. Walker is possibly the worst choice.
Saliba and Maignan make sense. Kounde had quite the competition and I'm usually one who dislikes him at RB.

 

[Savant]

They tried hard to find an English player to put there. Walker is possibly the worst choice.
Saliba and Maignan make sense. Kounde had quite the competition and I'm usually one who dislikes him at RB.

Walker made it for Spain, not for England

Honestly the only England player with a decent shout is Stones but really they should have no one

 

[Karterthadon]

Walker made it for Spain, not for England

Honestly the only England player with a decent shout is Stones but really they should have no one

Guéhi was better than Stones

 

[Savant]

Guéhi was better than Stones

Sure, why not. Neither were anything special

 

[les Habs]

Put Peak Fabregas in Manchester City, and he will score 20 goals a year if they leave him close to the penalty area, Fabregas in an Arsenal that was the third force in English football scored 15 goals and 15 assists in the Premier League, Before the injury that left him out of the last 6 Premier League games, he scored 4 goals in 5 games, His average this season was that of a Forward. Fabregas was of a much higher level than Rodri. Rodri's best season, which was 2023/24, in terms of numbers, is comparable to Fabregas' last season at a high level in 2016/17, 7 goals and 13 assists in 37, in 23/24 Rodri in 50 games score 9 goals And Distributed 13 Assists. Rodri is very good, but he doesn't hold a candle to the best Fabregas.

-Fabregas, who you’re saying In your hypothetical would play close to the penalty area, played a completely different role than Rodri does. Fabregas was a CM and even AM at times, Rodri is largely a DM.
-Those numbers are impressive, but stats don’t equal performance. Fabregas put up great numbers at Barca and wasn’t even a top 3 midfielder there. In fact, everyone I know, myself included, hated the fact we signed him in the first place one reason being because it took minutes away from Thiago.
-Again, stats don’t equal performance. Rodri has been a more influential player in his career than Fabregas was.

To say that Rodri doesn’t hold a candle to the best Fabregas is a ridiculous statement.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Seems to me that Rodri is underrated here as compared to some of the other guys. I’d definitely put him ahead of Cesc. IMO to have Rodri lower than 5th is wrong and possibly even lower than 4th is wrong.

Agreed. Xabi Alonso, Cesc, Silva... All great players but the impact of Rodri is bigger IMO. Frankly, and I've taken heat for saying this but I think at his peak he is a better player than Busquets, and that's not a slight on Busi but remarking how good Rodri is IMO

 

[1865]

Not my words but to quote someone more local “Only England fans would go to Germany, sing songs about WW2, talk about how much they hate Scousers and how unpatriotic they are; and then beg for Klopp to take over”

In this fictional world you've created, you're assuming this is all the same people doing all of these things? There's many camps in the England fandom, some sing WW2 songs and some find it absolutely tiresome, some dislike the Scouse attitude towards the English team and most would welcome Klopp. Klopp isn't a Scouser after all. He just managed them.

Except Liverpool faithful would detest that move.

Some, not all. Overall though, I honestly couldn't care less what Liverpool fans think about anything.

Sure, why not. Neither were anything special

I think the centre backs were easily the best part of England's tournament. We went there expecting to score plenty and concede plenty, it was the total opposite. Both Stones and Guehi played very well.

It'll be Howe. Would love Poch

I feel like it's destined to be Lee Carsley, and I don't actually hate it. If they're going for a company man, at least he's won something and he does play good football.

 

[cgf]

In this fictional world you've created, you're assuming this is all the same people doing all of these things? There's many camps in the England fandom, some sing WW2 songs and some find it absolutely tiresome, some dislike the Scouse attitude towards the English team and most would welcome Klopp. Klopp isn't a Scouser after all. He just managed them.



Some, not all. Overall though, I honestly couldn't care less what Liverpool fans think about anything.



I think the centre backs were easily the best part of England's tournament. We went there expecting to score plenty and concede plenty, it was the total opposite. Both Stones and Guehi played very well.



I feel like it's destined to be Lee Carsley, and I don't actually hate it. If they're going for a company man, at least he's won something and he does play good football.

England didn’t concede so little because their CBs were dominant. You conceded so little because Gareth was scared of letting anyone play football.

 

[1865]

England didn’t concede so little because their CBs were dominant. You conceded so little because Gareth was scared of letting anyone play football.

He did that by playing defensively. For this to succeed, you need to defend well. Stones and Guehi were the furthest thing from a problem for England.

 

[cgf]

He did that by playing defensively. For this to succeed, you need to defend well. Stones and Guehi were the furthest thing from a problem for England.

There’s a bit of a gap between being a problem and special, no? You’re right, but so was the poster you quoted to disagree. Stones & Guehi were perfectly fine, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[1865]

There’s a bit of a gap between being a problem and special, no? You’re right, but so was the poster you quoted to disagree. Stones & Guehi were perfectly fine, nothing more, nothing less.

Each to their own, but i disagree. England had many problems but in my eyes (and that of many) they were a good defensive side and both Stones and Guehi played well throughout. The fullbacks were frequently a problem though, i was very surprised to see Walker make the TOTT.