still surprises me that Detroit passed on Hughes to take Zadina, thankfully for the Canucks that happened
Value of: Filip Zadina
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The *only* good thing anyone on the Wings board has been able to say about Zadina this season is that he sort of plays defense (it's not something I generally agree with, but I also don't get to watch as many games). Sounds like another winger the team used to have. If you decided to read that as a stylistic comparison, that's on you. But hey, tell me more about all that production he had! Or don't, because you don't want to respond to the meat of the comment and you'd just rather snipe about nonsense.
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He'd have more production if his PP unit wasn't ridiculously bad. Is it bad because of him? Is it bad because of coaching? Is it bad because of his linemates? Probably all of the above. He needs to figure out how to score pretty soon I think.
ManofSteel55
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But hey, tell me more about all that production he had! Or don't, because you don't want to respond to the meat of the comment and you'd just rather snipe about nonsense.
Zadina for Yamamoto. Yamamoto works his tail off and his decent defensively but doesn't produce for the role Edmonton wants him in. If Zadina isn't fitting in Detroit, a change of scenery type move for both guys might make sense. Might backfire for both teams too though. Definition of a high risk, high reward trade so I don't see it happening.
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Few things.. I think Zadina was miscast as this pure shooter. He's more of a 200 foot player who creates offence with a nice shot. He was never the next Michkov!
He was drafted 6th overall... here is that draft today:
He is at 7th overall in points. Hayton was drafted before him and isn't very close today. So 'bust' is a bit early given he's at the spot he was drafted in. The 4 picks taken ahead of him are ahead of him. He got passed by Hughes and Farabee. Yes, Hughes would've been a better pick as he's a Dman and would look great on your blueline (not sure about hand but hopefully oppsoite of Seider/Hronek as that side is looking solid).
Trading him now would be a Chia level stupid move. His value is low, he is still young and he is still cheap. Vrana may give him a boost when he returns.
I am disapointed he's not doing better and I agree with that. I do think he was given Top 6 time and opportunity so I don't blame the org at all.
Few things.. I think Zadina was miscast as this pure shooter. He's more of a 200 foot player who creates offence with a nice shot. He was never the next Michkov!
He was drafted 6th overall... here is that draft today:
He is at 7th overall in points. Hayton was drafted before him and isn't very close today. So 'bust' is a bit early given he's at the spot he was drafted in. The 4 picks taken ahead of him are ahead of him. He got passed by Hughes and Farabee. Yes, Hughes would've been a better pick as he's a Dman and would look great on your blueline (not sure about hand but hopefully oppsoite of Seider/Hronek as that side is looking solid).
Trading him now would be a Chia level stupid move. His value is low, he is still young and he is still cheap. Vrana may give him a boost when he returns.
I am disapointed he's not doing better and I agree with that. I do think he was given Top 6 time and opportunity so I don't blame the org at all.
Gurglesons
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I feel like Zadina for Kapanen might make sense for both teams.
That's the best offer so far in this thread. I think Detroit should hold him longer though.
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Yeah, but we have Seider and Hronek on the right, Brannstrom wouldn't get meaningful offensive minutes here, which is what he is good at.
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Because! That's why!
Oddbob
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Honest question as I've only watched a couple of Wings games this year so far. Do you feel that his issues getting open are something that could be overcome if he was playing on a team that plays a more open offensive style, or is it just a matter of he doesn't know where to go and how to be? If playing in a more loose system could help, it would be interesting to see what would happen if he was in Edmonton playing with McDavid or Draisaitl. Not that I want Holland trading with Detroit. I think you guys still owe us for the Athanasiou overpay.
Maybe. I think he should watch video of guys like Brett Hull, who were great at getting themselves into openings. Zadina needs to learn to get in tight to the net, and then back off into an opening. Also want to add, that Zadina gets no PP1 time at all, so even when on the PP is he out there without Larkin, Raymond, Bertuzzi and Seider, and no one else on our team is really bringing consistent offence. Blashill doesn't seem to like him. Zadina should also hire a skating coach in the offseason as he doesn't have great acceleration which hurts him being able to burn a defender or get separation. Right now he is also playing with basically zero confidence as he gets mad at himself even when his shot wasn't really a threat to go in.
Zadina doesn't get traded unless its for an under performing high draft pick who is a centerman.
Best example I can think of is Barrett Hayton from the Coyotoes.
Honest question as I've only watched a couple of Wings games this year so far. Do you feel that his issues getting open are something that could be overcome if he was playing on a team that plays a more open offensive style, or is it just a matter of he doesn't know where to go and how to be? If playing in a more loose system could help, it would be interesting to see what would happen if he was in Edmonton playing with McDavid or Draisaitl. Not that I want Holland trading with Detroit. I think you guys still owe us for the Athanasiou overpay.
I believe that he’s not playing in a system that suits his style of play, also his line mates usually aren’t the most skilled. I think he’s the type of player who would flourish playing with other skilled players.
Strome + NYR two 2022 2nds [NY + StL]
for
Zadina + DET 2022 3rd + its three 4ths [DET Avs LV]
best I can do, for as I have said previously, nyr currently mostly only has enuf blue chip elcs for internal use, not extra spares to deal
Strome is known but undervalued here as a ufa but you get inside track to extend him. Zadina is a crapshot. picks favor wings
for
Zadina + DET 2022 3rd + its three 4ths [DET Avs LV]
best I can do, for as I have said previously, nyr currently mostly only has enuf blue chip elcs for internal use, not extra spares to deal
Strome is known but undervalued here as a ufa but you get inside track to extend him. Zadina is a crapshot. picks favor wings
If our pro scouts like him, I wonder if he could come with an add for Cirelli in this offseason or next. With the right addition, it could go a long way to helping our cap issues.
lucaseider
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Depending on the add, I would be up one side and down the other of this.
I was thinking a 1st this offseason or next, depending on where Detroit lands in the standings and the lottery results. If this year's 1st is in the top-10 we take 2023 1st.
lucaseider
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Can you please explain why LA needs Brannstrom?
Also, I believe you are in very slim minority of Kings fans who believe LA should trade Vilardi…
Debrincat93
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i responded to the entirety of your post.
But hey, tell me more about all that production he had! Or don't, because you don't want to respond to the meat of the comment and you'd just rather snipe about nonsense.
you also failed to realize that the kid is 22, on a very poor team for the most part [outside of parts of this year] with a limited supporting cast outside of line 1. there's plenty of players who take a wihle to emerge as qualified top 6 point producers but im sure you didnt do any research on that since most of your post appeared lazy.
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I'll jump in here.
Can you point to something, specifically, that made you reach the conclusion that Zadina played well with Vrana?
I could offer Tyler Madden or Jared Anderson Dolan.
They are not really underperforming but they are exactly what you are looking for
Hobnobs
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Zadina is just having a horrible season in every way possible. He has not been as good as last year defensively, he gets into dangerous areas and shoots but cant seem to bury it, losing puck battles. Yzerman would be mad to trade him now when his value is at its lowest and when hes obviously is having a down year. He will get more chances in the top-6 but tbh I'm not worried. Wingers is one area where Red Wings has strength. Zadina is showing heart though and is not giving up and I rather keep that within the org for now.
Also wouldnt call Rasmussen a noob/nob/knob compared to Zadina since he's outperformed him in every way this year.
Also wouldnt call Rasmussen a noob/nob/knob compared to Zadina since he's outperformed him in every way this year.
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Zadina is a scary type to get rid of. He’s a responsible player who’s getting chances. They’re just not going in the net as people would like.
He’s the exact type you trade away on the cheap and within a year is lighting it up.
There’s no reason to move him unless you get at least the same in return.
The only type move I could see with him being the main part leaving Detroit, would be a straight up for a player like Tippett.
He’s the exact type you trade away on the cheap and within a year is lighting it up.
There’s no reason to move him unless you get at least the same in return.
The only type move I could see with him being the main part leaving Detroit, would be a straight up for a player like Tippett.
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