Filip Chytil

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I'm not sure if drafting Barbashev especially would have moved the needle. But we could have drafted Pastrnak instead of McCann. Not doing a full teardown rebuild was a missed opportunity but it might have not made a huge difference either. In 2015 we apparently had Brisebois ranked higher. That was a good draft to have a 2nd but not necessar a 3rd and we could have just drafted Brisebois with a 2nd. 2016 we might have been high on DeBrincat and that might have changed things but we could have easily drafted someone else like Asplund who went in that spot. In 2017 we had two 2nds and ended up with Lind and Gadjovich. Our high 2nd and 3rd in 2018 were Woo and Madden. Etc. Etc.

We could have drafted Pastrnak,

I could have said I wanted Pastrnak,

But it wouldn't have been the truth...which matters more. All that matters is he ended up being the player I thought he could be.

Funny enough I was extremely high on Debrincat. If we ever acquired another 1st round pick like I wanted us to during the 2015-19 drafts, I would have picked him as high as the late-teens.

Dude, Benning made so many blunders on draft day I was honestly shaken. Made me feel like I could have done a better job. Then he went and re-orged the draft committee and did a pretty good job, actually.

E: I'm so bad with defenseman, however. I'm starting to turn a corner on them. But I'll shamelessly credit and sewer myself. I thought McAvoy was only surpassed by Juolevi in my D list. Dead wrong there. I would have been with Juolevi at 5, had Tkachuk not still been on the board. I was pissed we didn't draft Matthew.

 

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We could have drafted Pastrnak,

I could have said I wanted Pastrnak,

But it wouldn't have been the truth...which matters more. All that matters is he ended up being the player I thought he could be.

Funny enough I was extremely high on Debrincat. If we ever acquired another 1st round pick like I wanted us to during the 2015-19 drafts, I would have picked him as high as the late-teens.

Dude, Benning made so many blunders on draft day I was honestly shaken. Made me feel like I could have done a better job. Then he went and re-orged the draft committee and did a pretty good job, actually.

E: I'm so bad with defenseman, however. I'm starting to turn a corner on them. But I'll shamelessly credit and sewer myself. I thought McAvoy was only surpassed by Juolevi in my D list. Dead wrong there. I would have been with Juolevi at 5, had Tkachuk not still been on the board. I was pissed we didn't draft Matthew.

Ya unfortunately it happens so often as a Canucks fan I am more or less defeated. I can only hope for the best. I remember there were a few posters here who were critical of management having tunnel vision for Hughes like it was a bad thing. Had Hughes busted we wouldn't hear the end of it. As far as Barbashev, I did prefer McCann at the draft and still think he is the better pick.

I think currrent management has done a great job drafting defensemen (although last draft not so much but we also didn't have the picks). I hope the BPA is a C this year. We haven't drafted a projected C in the first 3 rounds since 2018 (Madden).

 

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Ya unfortunately it happens so often as a Canucks fan I am more or less defeated. I can only hope for the best. I remember there were a few posters here who were critical of management having tunnel vision for Hughes like it was a bad thing. Had Hughes busted we wouldn't hear the end of it. As far as Barbashev, I did prefer McCann at the draft and still think he is the better pick.

I think currrent management has done a great job drafting defensemen (although last draft not so much but we also didn't have the picks). I hope the BPA is a C this year. We haven't drafted a projected C in the first 3 rounds since 2018 (Madden).

I don't disagree with you re: McCann over Barbashev. It's just McCann's development was stunted by ours and his poor decision-making and attitude. I thought he'd bust in Florida and be out of the league, and I was....half-right. Didn't think he'd find his extra gear in P-burgh.

I still don't love the idea of drafting by position, that's what netted us Juolevi over Tkachuk. Funny enough I wanted Danielson/Kasper really bad because the way JT plays, his body will quit on him eventually and it just made sense. Willander wasn't half-bad, but skill and capability-wise, he's far less a player than Danielson or Kasper but Detroit beat us to the punch both times.

I still have zero clue what Detroit is trying to accomplish. It's an organization without a purpose.

 

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I seriously wonder if Filip Chytil will play another game for the Canucks this season. And unless things go better in the off-season-- a lot better than they did the last time he missed almost entire season with concussion symptoms--then you'd have to wonder about his career, period.

It would be a shame, really. But at just 25 years old--he still has almost his entire life in front of him.

 

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I seriously wonder if Filip Chytil will play another game for the Canucks this season. And unless things go better in the off-season-- a lot better than they did the last time he missed almost entire season with concussion symptoms--then you'd have to wonder about his career, period.

It would be a shame, really. But at just 25 years old--he still has almost his entire life in front of him.

Here's hoping he makes a wiser choice than Ferland and stays out the rest of the season. You can f*** with a lot things in your career, the head ain't one of them.

 

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I don't disagree with you re: McCann over Barbashev. It's just McCann's development was stunted by ours and his poor decision-making and attitude. I thought he'd bust in Florida and be out of the league, and I was....half-right. Didn't think he'd find his extra gear in P-burgh.

I think when it comes to drafting you're drafting players based on projections and potential. McCann to his credit is skilled and pretty advanced defensively. It did take him a while get to where we wanted him to be at the time of the draft but I'm not sure if it's our fault or otherwise. When we drafted him, the concern was that he was putting up underwhelming numbers relative to his skill level but that's a whole other discussion.

I still don't love the idea of drafting by position, that's what netted us Juolevi over Tkachuk. Funny enough I wanted Danielson/Kasper really bad because the way JT plays, his body will quit on him eventually and it just made sense. Willander wasn't half-bad, but skill and capability-wise, he's far less a player than Danielson or Kasper but Detroit beat us to the punch both times.

I still have zero clue what Detroit is trying to accomplish. It's an organization without a purpose.

Fair enough. I didn't think Kasper would be available by the time we picked and preferred Pickering. I did like Danielson as well but Dvorsky seems better right now. I didn't necessarily prefer them over Willander.

I've come around to drafting best asset available. There are just positions that are harder to fill without drafting the player. The problem with the 2016 draft is that Tkachuk ended up becoming a star and Juolevi a bust. Had Tkachuk been a 25+ goal 65-70 point winger as reasonably projected at the time and Juolevi a #3 transition defenseman with size (as reasonably projected) we wouldn't really have an issue. The problem is that Tkachuk became a star and Sergachev, McAvoy, and Chyhrun were a lot better than Juolevi. I think you would agree that nobody thought Tkachuk would score 40+ goal 100+ points.