Speculation: Figuring out all the defensemen

[PsychoDad]

I don't think Spooner plus a 4th line plug like Acciari is going to land Fowler. We have enough of those like most teams. We likely would need Spooner plus one of your high potential prospects like DeBrusk/Chelarik/Senyshyn to be included to be interested.

Spooner + Cehlarik for Fowler?
Okay, I am on board for the B's to do that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Spooner + Cehlarik for Fowler?
Okay, I am on board for the B's to do that.

Honestly Spooner + just about anything works for me preferably a forward prospect.



Also like the offers from Tatar... all I know is we need forward help Spooner giveS us that. Spooner and rakell are versatile players that give us options at center or wings.

 

[notdoneyet]

You have to remember there is and always was a premium a team had to pay when they are buying free agent years.

Ekblad signed an eight year deal

Jones/Reilly signed six year deals

Florida had to pay a premium for those extra two years
Nashville and Toronto chose not to pay that extra

 

[PsychoDad]

Honestly Spooner + just about anything works for me preferably a forward prospect.



Also like the offers from Tatar... all I know is we need forward help Spooner giveS us that. Spooner and rakell are versatile players that give us options at center or wings.

Just to understand the situation - why is Fowler available?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Just to understand the situation - why is Fowler available?

We have too many nhl dmen... and need top 6 forward... Fowler holds most trade value out of the pieces available... and we have people in our system that can some what replace him. Not to mention his contract is up in 2 years and we likely won't be able to afford his next contract and lindholm and vats should be signed long term by then. As of right now assuming lindholm is signed we have

Lindholm Fowler
Vatanen manson
Despres bieska
Stoner holzer

Then you have guys like Theodore who deserves to be at nhl level, and montour who should be battling for a spot if injuries occur.

 

[Dead Thing Fan]

Just some thoughts/speculation on contracts, and possible deals involving above players.



Trades:
1.
To Detroit:
D- J. Trouba
D- B. Chiarot

To Winnepeg:
F- G. Nyquist
D- B. Smith
D- X. Ouellet
* Winnepeg gets a guy on the left side that can play immediately in the top-4, another that can be a number 7 and be in the top-4 within 1-2 yrs. as well as a top-6 forward that gives them strong forward talent/depth.

Detroit gets an immediate top-pair guy to go with Dekyser and another younger guy that can play in the top-4 until Kronwall returns.
2.
To Boston:
D- C. Fowler

To Anaheim:
F- R. Spooner
F- N. Accari

* Anaheim gets a cheap, top-6 forward who can play center or wing and plays on the left side.
Boston gets a guy who can play in the top pair and help regulate Chara'a tough minutes.


Signings:

Lindholm: 3yrs. $4.5M per year (just wonder if they're nervous about a long term deal, I believe this leaves him as an RFA after his contract is up?)

Trouba: 5yrs. $5.75M per year (I think he'll get a deal comparable to Rielly/Jones)

Ristolainen: 8yrs. $6.50M per year (Just seems like a Sabres type of deal, just look at O'Reilly, they're not afraid to pay)

As a Wings fan, I'd do this deal in a nano second although I'm not so sure that the Jets need/want Nyquist. Nyquist needs to be moved to free up cap space to be able to pay Trouba. Think a more logical destination for Nyquist would be the Ducks in exchange for Fowler. The Wings then flip Fowler + to the Jets for Trouba. The + can include any asset not named Larkin, Mantha, AA, DDK or Mrazek. This means any of our young prospects(i.e.: Saarijarvi(RD), Svechnikov(LW), Turgeon(C)) are in the mix as well as the 2017 1st.

 

[dkollidas]

As a Wings fan, I'd do this deal in a nano second although I'm not so sure that the Jets need/want Nyquist. Nyquist needs to be moved to free up cap space to be able to pay Trouba. Think a more logical destination for Nyquist would be the Ducks in exchange for Fowler. The Wings then flip Fowler + to the Jets for Trouba. The + can include any asset not named Larkin, Mantha, AA, DDK or Mrazek. This means any of our young prospects(i.e.: Saarijarvi(RD), Svechnikov(LW), Turgeon(C)) are in the mix as well as the 2017 1st.

But half the reason for moving Fowler is to free up cap space, sending Nyquist to Anaheim adds to Anaheim's cap/cash struggles.

Spooner adds cheap top-6 scoring, and anyone can adjust the prospect added to make it more balanced.

Regarding Trouba, idk what else Winnepeg would want. I understand you'd want basically a 1-1 swap with a LHD but it's not gonna happen. They get a top-6 winger who can play any forward position, on a reasonable deal. They get a 2nd pair defenseman who can drop Stuart to the 3rd pairing, and they get another young defenseman who will likely be top-4 in 2 yrs.

Regarding the contracts. Trouba's similar to Rielly & Jones. Lindholm's is simply a bridge if they can't get a long-term deal, and Ristolainen's AAV is higher bc he's signing an 8-yr contract.

 

[BB88]

Really doesn't impact Fowler's value. The Ducks are not moving him just for the sake of salary relief, and no way he is even considered to move until Lindholm is signed. Despres is another candidate that we can move if the Ducks have to clear salary to sign everyone.

I think Rakell may be the odd guy out if his side is playing hardball. Lindholm is clearly a bigger priority than Rakell, and if Murray has to take some of Rakell's money to sign Lindholm, then he will do so. Ricky may find that all he will be offered is a bridge deal for a lot less money than he's asking for. If he would rather play in the KHL than sign Murray's offer, it will suck for the Ducks depth scoring, but I hope he remembers to bring his winter clothes from Sweden.

Every Gm knows if you sign Lindholm for that 6-6.5M contract, or anything close someone has to go, which lowers the value.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Every Gm knows if you sign Lindholm for that 6-6.5M contract, or anything close someone has to go, which lowers the value.

The reason why he is available is cause he has more value and we won't be able to afford in 2 years... we can trade despres and free up almost the same amount of money. So no fowler doesn't have to move but if we want to bring back a top6 forward he is best option

 

[BB88]

The reason why he is available is cause he has more value and we won't be able to afford in 2 years... we can trade despres and free up almost the same amount of money. So no fowler doesn't have to move but if we want to bring back a top6 forward he is best option

Do you think when teams are calling Anaheim they are asking about Despres over Fowler?
I don't.