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David71

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watched it today.,. lots of actions jason mamoa stole the show imo. great villian. spoiler alert bringing a familar character back into the fold when they were killed off in the previous ones makes no sense. the last one was boring and stupid. should have stopped at 7 or 8. but whatever good flick.
 

The Crypto Guy

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Knew it would be a good movie when they brought Jason Mamoa in, he is a phenomenal actor. Odd to see him as the villain, so used to seeing him as a good guy.
 

LarKing

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No disrespect to the people that actually watch these movies, because I too enjoy a good popcorn turn your brain off entirely type of movie here and there. But the fact that these movies are still being made and watched pretty much tells you all you need to know about why Hollywood just continues to churn out sequels, remakes, and same universe movies. Why would they take a chance on anything original when sequels can go on for literally decades and still be profitable?
 

blueandgoldguy

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For DJ, his ego is too big to work in a “team” that has to think larger than himself.

Marvel realized this as I saw interviews with the Russo brothers who were asked about the Rock and their answer was a polite PC way to say no it wouldn’t work with him and his ego.

Bautista of the trio of wrestlers is the most willing to take smaller roles to work with better actors.
Cena, most willing to be foolish. Mostly not the lead for films.
Rock the biggest name out there but since he has exploded has remained basically the same character type in all the films.

Cena is 46, Rock 51, Bautista 54.
At their ages I think they just try to maintain a size that they are comfortable with. Doubt we see them drop a lot of size to play a role only to bulk back up.

Fast X, something I will catch on Netflix or streaming service.
I won't dispute that the rock has a big ego and might be difficult to work with, but it should be noted he was part of a team in 2 Jumanji movies where all 4 main actors received relatively equal screen time. If it can be done there, I think it could be done in other movies in the future.
 

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No disrespect to the people that actually watch these movies, because I too enjoy a good popcorn turn your brain off entirely type of movie here and there. But the fact that these movies are still being made and watched pretty much tells you all you need to know about why Hollywood just continues to churn out sequels, remakes, and same universe movies. Why would they take a chance on anything original when sequels can go on for literally decades and still be profitable?
I hear this all the time, yet there's absolutely TONS of "original" things being made. No one goes to see them though. Why would they spend millions making movies that will lose money?

I mean, how many of the following have you seen this year? Beau Is Afraid, You Hurt My Feelings, Past Lives, Sisu, Sanctuary, Return To Seoul, Chevalier? Then compare that to how many John Wick/Marvel blockbuster type movies you've seen.

If you want "original" stuff, it's out there for you. Fast and the Furious movies isn't stopping that. In fact, if NOT for those movies making a load of money, there wouldn't even be movies like the ones I've mentioned.

Long story short, don't yuck other peoples yum.
 

LarKing

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I hear this all the time, yet there's absolutely TONS of "original" things being made. No one goes to see them though. Why would they spend millions making movies that will lose money?

I mean, how many of the following have you seen this year? Beau Is Afraid, You Hurt My Feelings, Past Lives, Sisu, Sanctuary, Return To Seoul, Chevalier? Then compare that to how many John Wick/Marvel blockbuster type movies you've seen.

If you want "original" stuff, it's out there for you. Fast and the Furious movies isn't stopping that. In fact, if NOT for those movies making a load of money, there wouldn't even be movies like the ones I've mentioned.

Long story short, don't yuck other peoples yum.

I've seen almost no movies in theatres the past year. In fact, I quite literally said I too enjoy these types of movies as well from time to time. So, I'm not sure what you're on about.

It's a discussion forum? I'm not in here responding to every post with negativity. Relax.
 

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I've seen almost no movies in theatres the past year. In fact, I quite literally said I too enjoy these types of movies as well from time to time. So, I'm not sure what you're on about.

It's a discussion forum? I'm not in here responding to every post with negativity. Relax.
You do know what site you're on? NEGATIVITY IS WHAT DRIVES THIS SITE/INTERNET! Get with the program.
 

Deadpool8812

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It was alright. Mamoa definitely saved the movie.

Also, not surprised The Rock is back considering all the negative publicity his ego had gotten since he ruined Black Adam and won't be in DC anymore
 

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Seems like America is tired of these movies while international audiences are still lapping it up.
 

bobholly39

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It was alright. Mamoa definitely saved the movie.

Also, not surprised The Rock is back considering all the negative publicity his ego had gotten since he ruined Black Adam and won't be in DC anymore

Ruined Black Adam? lol

Rock refused to be in Shazam 2 because it looked shitty, and pushed for Black Adam to be its own movie. Case in point - Shazam 2 did 57M in North america, 133M worldwide.

Black Adam - 168M north america, 393M worldwide

For reference, that's more than the first Captain America did. That's more than Batman Begins did. That's more than Fast & Furious 1 did.

Black Adam was a pretty badly written movie. That's not on Rock or the actors, that's more on producers/writers/directors. Rock's fame helped the movie still generate a strong box office number. As strong as they wanted? Well, no - but in the grand scheme of things it's comparable to some other successful superhero trilogies first movies, which is quite decent.

As a big fan of the Fast and Furious movies and also the Rock - i'm ecastatic he's back in the franchise. The movies wouldn't feel right concluding without Hobbs' character being involved.
 

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Ruined Black Adam? lol

Rock refused to be in Shazam 2 because it looked shitty, and pushed for Black Adam to be its own movie. Case in point - Shazam 2 did 57M in North america, 133M worldwide.

Black Adam - 168M north america, 393M worldwide

For reference, that's more than the first Captain America did. That's more than Batman Begins did. That's more than Fast & Furious 1 did.

Black Adam was a pretty badly written movie. That's not on Rock or the actors, that's more on producers/writers/directors. Rock's fame helped the movie still generate a strong box office number. As strong as they wanted? Well, no - but in the grand scheme of things it's comparable to some other successful superhero trilogies first movies, which is quite decent.

As a big fan of the Fast and Furious movies and also the Rock - i'm ecastatic he's back in the franchise. The movies wouldn't feel right concluding without Hobbs' character being involved.
Well hello, Dwayne Johnson....
 
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Jussi

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Cute - but everything I said is still true.
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BigBadBruins7708

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Ruined Black Adam? lol

Rock refused to be in Shazam 2 because it looked shitty, and pushed for Black Adam to be its own movie. Case in point - Shazam 2 did 57M in North america, 133M worldwide.

Black Adam - 168M north america, 393M worldwide

For reference, that's more than the first Captain America did. That's more than Batman Begins did. That's more than Fast & Furious 1 did.

Black Adam was a pretty badly written movie. That's not on Rock or the actors, that's more on producers/writers/directors. Rock's fame helped the movie still generate a strong box office number. As strong as they wanted? Well, no - but in the grand scheme of things it's comparable to some other successful superhero trilogies first movies, which is quite decent.

As a big fan of the Fast and Furious movies and also the Rock - i'm ecastatic he's back in the franchise. The movies wouldn't feel right concluding without Hobbs' character being involved.

Technically the 1st Captain America had a better domestic box office with $176m.

You're also ignoring the fact that Black Adam got to ride the money wave that Marvel built for all super hero movies. A wave that Captain America: The First Avenger helped start
 
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bobholly39

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Technically the 1st Captain America had a better domestic box office with $176m.

You're also ignoring the fact that Black Adam got to ride the money wave that Marvel built for all super hero movies. A wave that Captain America: The First Avenger helped start

I agree with all of this.

I don't think 393M is a resounding success for Black Adam, just that it's decent. But I think Rock's starpower still helped the film tremendously, because without The Rock it might not have done even half of that box office number. See Shazam 2 as a benchmark for a DC movie audiences don't care much about.

For whatever reason, it seems like the world is out with pitchforks with anything regarding Dwayne Johnson these days, and it's kind of silly.

DC to me is a complete shit show past ~12 months. If anyone should look bad, it's them not Dwayne. They also fired Henry Cavill despite audiences being 100% against that and wanting him back. They have been a complete mess - choosing not to continue to work with arguably the biggest star in hollywood these days (Dwayne Johnson) isn't exactly a very smart move. Not sure why Dwayne is getting such bad publicity over all of this to be honest.
 

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I agree with all of this.

I don't think 393M is a resounding success for Black Adam, just that it's decent. But I think Rock's starpower still helped the film tremendously, because without The Rock it might not have done even half of that box office number. See Shazam 2 as a benchmark for a DC movie audiences don't care much about.

For whatever reason, it seems like the world is out with pitchforks with anything regarding Dwayne Johnson these days, and it's kind of silly.

DC to me is a complete shit show past ~12 months. If anyone should look bad, it's them not Dwayne. They also fired Henry Cavill despite audiences being 100% against that and wanting him back. They have been a complete mess - choosing not to continue to work with arguably the biggest star in hollywood these days (Dwayne Johnson) isn't exactly a very smart move. Not sure why Dwayne is getting such bad publicity over all of this to be honest.
I get Gunn opting to reboot everything. Just a cleaner approach to relaunch DC.

Cavill is 40. Gadot is 38. Affleck is 51 in August. I get wanting to have the trinity as part of the vision moving forward over the next several years. So best to recast it all now. Sadly, Cavill and Gadot got wasted as they fit their roles nicely. I get Gadot maybe being to slender to play WW.

Barring the Rock being John Stewart Green Lantern, I don't think there is a hero for him to be. That's ultimately the reality of super heros. The ones people know the most were created decades ago and very few are minorities. Comics have done an alternate version like Miles Morales Spider-man. But, for the most part people identify Spiderman as Peter Parker.

Doubt the Superhero genre post End Game can afford to mess with the IP too much. Box office hasn't been the same since. Also, the writing has not been as good either.
 

Deadpool8812

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Ruined Black Adam? lol

Rock refused to be in Shazam 2 because it looked shitty, and pushed for Black Adam to be its own movie. Case in point - Shazam 2 did 57M in North america, 133M worldwide.

Black Adam - 168M north america, 393M worldwide

For reference, that's more than the first Captain America did. That's more than Batman Begins did. That's more than Fast & Furious 1 did.

Black Adam was a pretty badly written movie. That's not on Rock or the actors, that's more on producers/writers/directors. Rock's fame helped the movie still generate a strong box office number. As strong as they wanted? Well, no - but in the grand scheme of things it's comparable to some other successful superhero trilogies first movies, which is quite decent.

As a big fan of the Fast and Furious movies and also the Rock - i'm ecastatic he's back in the franchise. The movies wouldn't feel right concluding without Hobbs' character being involved.
Black Adam was terrible, and Dwayne was terrible in it. His fame didn't help anything.

If WB was happy with how it performed and with how DJ was, they wouldn't have fired him.

You can sit there and quote money numbers just like he did to try and salvage the movie all you want.
 

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