Yup, this franchise has given us a couple timeless meathead maxims.. I have a friend, who's pushing 50 years old, and he admits to still living life a quarter mile at a time..
Movies: Fast X: The End of the Road Begins
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discostu
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Studios aren't keeping every dollar of that gross. Theatres get their cut, and it's higher for international than domestic. The franchise makes a lot of its money in China where the studio gets only about 25 cents on the dollar.
At production costs reportedly over $300M, profitability is possible, but, things get tighter.
alko
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Careful using F9 as some type of proof they're declining. F9 launched in the middle of the pandemic and it seriously affected its earning potential.
F7 was the high. With Paul Walker's death and tribute to him helped build anticipation for the movie, that 1.5B is likely biggest number they see.
But I'd argue getting in the vicinity of Fast 8 - so ~1.2B is very likely here, and good chance F9 would have come close to that with no pandemic
Hobbs and Shaw being a spinoff was hugely successful on its own, but wasn't ever expected to make quite as much as the main movies. So 760M is still fantastic for that one.
Can't wait to see it.
I love those movies.
I did like Brian's character the most, so it definitely doesn't feel the same without him, but they're still a ton of fun. Of course the fact that I liked Hobbs as 2nd best and he's also gone doesn't help me.
I still hold out hope that Rock and Vin find a way to make up and have him return in F11. I know he's publicly said no, but I wonder if he does it anyways as a surprise. Rock is always all about making fans happy after all.
For those who didn't know - Fast X is part 1 of a 2 part finale. So fast 11 will be the final movie in franchise (spinoffs may still happen after).
I love those movies.
I did like Brian's character the most, so it definitely doesn't feel the same without him, but they're still a ton of fun. Of course the fact that I liked Hobbs as 2nd best and he's also gone doesn't help me.
I still hold out hope that Rock and Vin find a way to make up and have him return in F11. I know he's publicly said no, but I wonder if he does it anyways as a surprise. Rock is always all about making fans happy after all.
For those who didn't know - Fast X is part 1 of a 2 part finale. So fast 11 will be the final movie in franchise (spinoffs may still happen after).
yeah, I was mentioning this earlier in the thread.. the importance of Walker's character in launching Fast. It's been a while, but the way I remember the original is that it was mostly Brian's story.. his moral dilemma, his falling in love, etc. And when the original was being cast in the late 9os, it was aimed at an audience that wore JNCO jeans & listened to Papa Roach.
But the franchise changed, and it has become Diesel's calling to shape & carry it on for an expanded & changing audience. I believe Diesel has/can basically recruit any star he wants. But I personally don't want the James Bond ensembles. I miss the lowlife Dom (delivering quotable meathead wisdom), and the average, morally conflicted cop.. it was a good story.
I keep watching tho, but in protest I don't buy theater tickets anymore, I get the sequels on library DVDs.
discostu
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I'm not certain that F9 does better under different conditions. Pandemic had its effect, but it also meant that there was so few big movies out and there was pent up demand. Godzilla v Kong did better than its predecessor for example.
My personal guess on this is that the gross this time around will be closer to the 9th film than the 8th. And I feel domestically, it might even come below what F9 did.
I disagree strongly. Pandemic had a huge toll on the global gross especially. Domestic wasn't too far off already between F9 and F8 (170M to 226M).
I suspect Fast X definitely surpases 1B, possibly 1.2B. And id' be surprised not to see it do over 200M domestically.
I hear you that some movies still did good in the pandemic, but it was very hit and miss, and there were a lot of waves of covid. It absolutely still had an effect. Going off memory here, but I think there was a big covid spike close to its release because I remember hearing talk about whether they'd delay release again, and they chose not to. But I could be mis-remembering.
We'll see of course - but my prediction is Fast X will 100% be 1B+ global, and possibly 1.2B+. The fact that it's a 2 part finale of the franchise will make it successful
alko
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Imo, the will create a virtual Walker persona, generated with help of Artificial intelligence, and we will see another Fast XYZ...
He didnt die in this franchise, or am i wrong?
He didnt die in this franchise, or am i wrong?
The family would have to agree with that, not sure they would. Read earlier this week more actors, like Keanu Reeves for example, have clauses in their contracts that say a virtual version of themselves and their likeness cannot be used in future films.
that being said from this I guess it is possible, he is alive in that world
Fast X director addresses whether Paul Walker's Brian will return
Will Brian be back again?
www.digitalspy.com
"Well, Brian is very much alive in the world of Fast & Furious, and they’ve teased him a lot in the previous movies," he told Total Film (via Gamesradar). "In 9, we see the car coming.
"It’s something that is planned. This movie jumps back and forth between the past and the present. You will see Brian in the past, you won’t see Brian in the present. It’s something that everybody has to be on board with.
"The Walker family is still very much a part of this franchise, you’ll see how in this movie. It just has to be the right moment, the right tone.
"I think what James Wan did at the end of 7 was perfect," he added. "The tone was perfect. Brian has to re-enter the franchise as perfectly as he left it."
I've thought about this too.. because of how committed Vin Diesel is to sustaining this franchise's life.
It seems ghoulish to imagine, but I can picture a Fast and Furious: Resurrection. Or something like a Weekend at Dom's. Where Diesel & the Rock would basically be Jonathan Silverman & Andrew McCarthy, etc.
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I asked if the same people (car enthusiasts) still liked these movies, not if people in general are still watching them.
The recent F&F movies are more like Avengers movies than racing movies. Saying that the last movie made 750M doesn't really explain who is watching these movies, or if they even liked them. The last one doesn't have very good audience review scores.
Not to mention that the first movie came out 22 years agoit's older than a good chunk of the audience for the new one will be.
Not even slightly. I don’t know a single person who watched the original because they loved cars, and still watches them. Fast Five was when they gave up on making car movies and I only got through a couple more before giving up. They’re just not enjoyable anymore
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DJ just has too big of an ego. After all the stuff that came out about him when he tried to take over the DCEU and failed Black Adam movie, I bet he'll be begging Vin to come back to finish this off
Looking forward to seeing this next weekend
For DJ, his ego is too big to work in a “team” that has to think larger than himself.
Marvel realized this as I saw interviews with the Russo brothers who were asked about the Rock and their answer was a polite PC way to say no it wouldn’t work with him and his ego.
Bautista of the trio of wrestlers is the most willing to take smaller roles to work with better actors.
Cena, most willing to be foolish. Mostly not the lead for films.
Rock the biggest name out there but since he has exploded has remained basically the same character type in all the films.
Cena is 46, Rock 51, Bautista 54.
At their ages I think they just try to maintain a size that they are comfortable with. Doubt we see them drop a lot of size to play a role only to bulk back up.
Fast X, something I will catch on Netflix or streaming service.
Jussi
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Looks like it continues to lose interest in north america but is massive around the world, especially Asian. Opens to about $68M in North America and $251M total elsewhere.
variety.com
“Fast X,” the 10th installment in Universal’s high-octane franchise, powered to $320 million worldwide, including an uninspired $67.5 million in its domestic debut. It secured the second-biggest global opening weekend of the year following another Universal title, “The Super Mario Bros. Movie” ($377 million).
Even though “Fast X” arrived on the higher end of projections, the action-adventure saga has been experiencing diminishing returns in North America. In terms of opening weekend ticket sales, the 10th chapter landed behind the latest entry, 2021’s “F9: The Fast Saga,” which kicked off to $70 million. And that was at a time when COVID era restrictions meant only 80% of theaters were open and attendance hadn’t yet rebounded. Pre-pandemic “Fast” installments were far bigger in their starts, including 2017’s “The Fate of the Furious” ($98 million debut), 2015’s “Furious 7” (a series-high $148 million debut) and 2013’s “Fast and Furious 6” ($97 million debut).
Box Office: ‘Fast X’ Opens to Soft $67.5 Million Domestically, Revs to $319 Million Globally
"Fast X" powered past the $300 million mark in its global debut.
variety.com
“Fast X,” the 10th installment in Universal’s high-octane franchise, powered to $320 million worldwide, including an uninspired $67.5 million in its domestic debut. It secured the second-biggest global opening weekend of the year following another Universal title, “The Super Mario Bros. Movie” ($377 million).
Even though “Fast X” arrived on the higher end of projections, the action-adventure saga has been experiencing diminishing returns in North America. In terms of opening weekend ticket sales, the 10th chapter landed behind the latest entry, 2021’s “F9: The Fast Saga,” which kicked off to $70 million. And that was at a time when COVID era restrictions meant only 80% of theaters were open and attendance hadn’t yet rebounded. Pre-pandemic “Fast” installments were far bigger in their starts, including 2017’s “The Fate of the Furious” ($98 million debut), 2015’s “Furious 7” (a series-high $148 million debut) and 2013’s “Fast and Furious 6” ($97 million debut).
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Arguably the dumbest movie franchise to ever exist with how they changed from normal street racers to invincible mutant superheroes
