Speculation: Fantasy GM and Rumor Roundup Thread | "Trader Jim" gearing up for TDL

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Can we create a poll
Those who blindly love the first trade vs those who overly criticized it

we don’t even need to know what the trade is to know where we stand

 

[bossram]

Holy Shit.

OEL gone?

Myers too?

Crrrrazy.

Nah. They're just prepping us for First Line Player By Ice Time Tyler Motte to be traded at the TDL.

 

[bossram]

Everyone is underrating tf outta Miller on the main boards. If he goes to NYR or Minny (One if Laf/Kakko Is included or One of Boldy/Rossi) End of discussion. Laf+Lundqvist for Miller @50%+Motte.
If I was in NYR position I make that trade every day of the damn week. I regret not going all in even more from 2009-2012. Jeff Carter should have been acquired for prospects at that time.

I think getting back one of Kakko/Lafreniere is more likely than Boldy/Rossi. NYR will be in a cap crunch and have to re-sign to guys with pedigree, who are underperforming their draft slots. To MIN, Boldy/Rossi are the most valuable pieces in their organization. They're facing an impending cap armageddon (Parise and Suter buyouts) and really have no other option to field a competitive team besides filling out the roster with ELC players.

 

[rypper]

I wonder if Minnesota would look at this year as being their "last hurrah" of sorts before getting into cap hell.

Trade for Miller and go for it this year. They'd have him under contract for one more after, could look at moving on from Fiala for a cheap younger player. Use Miller as their number one center.

(Definitely makes more sense for them to hold onto cheap prospects to play during their cap hell but maybe they say eff it and go for it this year, give their fans something to hold on to. )

 

[timw33]

I wonder if Minnesota would look at this year as being their "last hurrah" of sorts before getting into cap hell.

Trade for Miller and go for it this year. They'd have him under contract for one more after, could look at moving on from Fiala for a cheap younger player. Use Miller as their number one center.

(Definitely makes more sense for them to hold onto cheap prospects to play during their cap hell but maybe they say eff it and go for it this year, give their fans something to hold on to. )

I think Minny's plan has been to use Boldy/Rossi/Wallstedt ELC's to get through the 6.7mm, 7.3mm, 7.3mm buyout penalties starting next year. Boldy's ELC has started so it'll be up by the final 7.3MM year, but Rossi could slide and Wallstedt's hasnt started yet.

So if you're trading one of the big ELC guys you better have things mapped out clearly to navigate the obstacles.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I think Boeser and Miller are both gone at the deadline.

I wonder what the Canucks could get at the deadline if they offered the entire Highmore/Lammiko/Motte line as a package? With retention on Motte? Maybe a 1st + a B prospect? I'd do it.

I wonder if Dallas would have interest in Tyler Myers as a Klingberg replacement. Myers and a minor sweetener for like, Khudobin or something? Khudobin would be a pricey backup for Demko for a year but the Canucks still come out ahead capwise.

 

[bossram]

I wonder if Minnesota would look at this year as being their "last hurrah" of sorts before getting into cap hell.

Trade for Miller and go for it this year. They'd have him under contract for one more after, could look at moving on from Fiala for a cheap younger player. Use Miller as their number one center.

(Definitely makes more sense for them to hold onto cheap prospects to play during their cap hell but maybe they say eff it and go for it this year, give their fans something to hold on to. )

I don't think what they've done under their current management group would indicate that a "last hurrah" strategy is in the cards. Despite being a very good team last season as well, they didn't really do anything to "go for it" in the playoffs. They didn't sacrifice any draft or prospect capital in the offseason, instead preferring to use their 1st rounder to select their long-term goalie of the future. And rather than make a significant addition in free agency (or trade), Guerin mostly added some cheap/value additions to round out the roster.

It looks like Guerin is planning for the long-term. They'll need their ELC guys on the roster to get through the Suter/Parise cap crunch.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

I think Boeser and Miller are both gone at the deadline.

I wonder what the Canucks could get at the deadline if they offered the entire Highmore/Lammiko/Motte line as a package? With retention on Motte? Maybe a 1st + a B prospect? I'd do it.

I wonder if Dallas would have interest in Tyler Myers as a Klingberg replacement. Myers and a minor sweetener for like, Khudobin or something? Khudobin would be a pricey backup for Demko for a year but the Canucks still come out ahead capwise.

I don’t like these trades Sam I am

no point trading any of the 4th line

we don’t need anymore expensive backups, bargain bin shopping for that position

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

we don’t need anymore expensive backups, bargain bin shopping for that position

Adding Khudobin at the expense of Myers effectively gives us a backup with a negative cap hit. Doesn't get much more bargain basement than that

 

[supercanuck]

I'm excited! I won't be disappointed if they took a chance on a guy like Laf and then he doesn't turn out. I just don't want any quality for quantity deals like Kesler for Sbisa, Bonino, low 1st.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I’d honestly avoid trading Miller for a dman prospect if it’s not full value.

I’d 110% target Laf OR Kakko in a Miller deal and avoid Schneider. Honestly not that impressed by him. Boeser can then be moved for a dman or we just draft dmen.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Adding Khudobin at the expense of Myers effectively gives us a backup with a negative cap hit. Doesn't get much more bargain basement than that

I suppose

But his cap spade is addition but he will need replacement and that will be in the form of overpayment free agents

call me crazy I don’t hate Myers

 

[vancityluongo]

This is further out, but I just noticed that Jordan Staal is a UFA after next season - wonder if he's a potential name they have pencilled in as a short-term stop gap for moving on from Horvat & Miller. Obviously a Rutherford connection there, but I'd also think Carolina will be inclined to walk from him with guys like Necas/Jarvis needing contracts and to keep more important players like Trochek/Nino/Pesce.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Now I'm expecting big trades.

If it doesn't happen, I'll be disappointed.

 

[vancityluongo]

Looking at teams aside from NYR/Minnesota which seem to be the most rumoured, Anton Lundell (FLA) would be a very nice centerpiece coming back for Miller. Cole Perfetti (WPG) is another - although they've been bad recently and probably aren't in a position to be going for it this year.

Both teams have attractive additional pieces too, in Tippett and Heinola, respectively.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Now I'm expecting big trades.

If it doesn't happen, I'll be disappointed.

Can’t get anymore disappointed than Deadline Benning

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I know there’s been a lot of buzz surrounding Miller, but I think Boeser is the first big decision staring management in the face. He’s on a 23G/21A pace over 82 games this season and has a $7.5m QO. Do the Canucks hang onto him hoping this is an off year? Or do they move him to create cap flexibility going forward?

If the Canucks can get anything of value for off loading deals such as Myers, OEL, Dickinson, Pearson, etc - that would be amazing. But understandably the guys drawing most interest are the ones on reasonable contracts (Miller and Schenn for example)

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Can we create a poll
Those who blindly love the first trade vs those who overly criticized it

we don’t even need to know what the trade is to know where we stand

I could already compose a list of who will hate it… haters always gonna hate lol.

 

[DonnyNucker]

I could already compose a list of who will hate it… haters always gonna hate lol.

I dont know. There are lots of optimists on these boards. I’m sure Johnny will love the trade regardless of the return

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I dont know. There are lots of optimists on these boards. I’m sure Johnny will love the trade regardless of the return

Hahaha true! I just can think of a handful that I know will hate the trade no matter what the deal is. They come to mind faster lol.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Can’t get anymore disappointed than Deadline Benning

Draft Day Benning

 

[Melvin]

I know there’s been a lot of buzz surrounding Miller, but I think Boeser is the first big decision staring management in the face. He’s on a 23G/21A pace over 82 games this season and has a $7.5m QO. Do the Canucks hang onto him hoping this is an off year? Or do they move him to create cap flexibility going forward?

If the Canucks can get anything of value for off loading deals such as Myers, OEL, Dickinson, Pearson, etc - that would be amazing. But understandably the guys drawing most interest are the ones on reasonable contracts (Miller and Schenn for example)

I would rather overpay to keep Miller than give Boeser 7.5M at this point.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

I’m dreaming of Malkin signing here for 6.5-7 x3

 

[Knight53]

J.T Miller for Nikolaj Ehlers is something I would look at. Ehlers has been in trade rumors before and looks like he could be falling out of order over there. Gives us the speed JR is looking for and couple years younger.

This is the type of trade that needs to be made for Miller not two B level prospects and late first round picks type package.

 

[Mahateet]

Draft Day Benning

Free Agency Benning AINEC