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Bure Fan said:
I hate soccer, I hate whistling, and I hate having one clock that counts up while the other counts down.
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So don't watch.
 
Bure Fan said:
I hate soccer, I hate whistling, and I hate having one clock that counts up while the other counts down.
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A clock that counts up is the dumbest thing ever to be integrated into sports. Bar none.

Such a clock has ZERO advantage over a clock that runs down. When the clock reads 11:37, you have to do a stupid little calculation to get 8 minutes and 23 seconds left. Instead, why not fix the damn clock, so that it shows..........8:23?

:dunno:
 
Brule said:
A clock that counts up is the dumbest thing ever to be integrated into sports. Bar none.

Such a clock has ZERO advantage over a clock that runs down. When the clock reads 11:37, you have to do a stupid little calculation to get 8 minutes and 23 seconds left. Instead, why not fix the damn clock, so that it shows..........8:23?

:dunno:
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Ya, but it's all a matter of perspective. We're used to gauging time by how much is left, it's just as logical to think of it as how much has gone by.
 
I don't really mind the whistling, I can turn the volume down.

But, if I was there I'd probably be pretty pissed off with it right in my ear. If it was people at the venue that complained, I can understand.

Please people, stop blaming everything on Hockey Canada. If there was some big conspiracy, would they have been embarassed the last 2 games?
 
deathbear said:
how anyone can hate soccer is beyond my understanding.

world cup in a few months!!!
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I am ****ing pumped for the World Cup. Hockey is my sport, but I love the World Cup far more than the Olympics.
 
who are you cheering for this year?

i'm hoping for england... cliched as that is for a canadian.

brazil could very well have the very best team of the last 20 years though.
 
The Albino said:
Ya, but it's all a matter of perspective. We're used to gauging time by how much is left, it's just as logical to think of it as how much has gone by.
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That's only the case if the people get used to it counting up. They'll simply won't be used to the clock counting down.

But by pure logic, counting down is the way to go. You eliminate the mathematical portion of it, no matter how small/simple it is. Nobody really needs to know how much time has gone by, when you can know how much time there is left in the period.
 
deathbear said:
who are you cheering for this year?

i'm hoping for england... cliched as that is for a canadian.

brazil could very well have the very best team of the last 20 years though.
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I don't really have a team. When I was growing up and didn't know any better, I cheered for Brazil because I recognized maybe one or two names. Now, it doesn't really matter. It's one of those things where I can truly enjoy it without being a homer. Of course, I'm Scottish in heritage so that doesn't help either.
 
Brule said:
That's only the case if the people get used to it counting up. They'll simply won't be used to the clock counter down.

But by pure logic, counting down is the way to go. You eliminate the mathematical portion of it, no matter how small/simple it is. Nobody really needs to know how much time has gone by, when you can know how much time there is left in the period.
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Counting up is just so pointless when penalties count down. The math doesn't bother me so much as the hypocrisy of it all.
 
Brule said:
A clock that counts up is the dumbest thing ever to be integrated into sports. Bar none.

Such a clock has ZERO advantage over a clock that runs down. When the clock reads 11:37, you have to do a stupid little calculation to get 8 minutes and 23 seconds left. Instead, why not fix the damn clock, so that it shows..........8:23?

:dunno:
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In soccer you have extra time. If a standard half is 45 minutes, the play may continue beyond for a couple second or minutes. If you had a clock counting down, how would you show the extra time once you reach zero ? count up ?
 
ark1 said:
In soccer you have extra time. If a standard half is 45 minutes, the play may continue beyond for a couple second or minutes. If you had a clock counting down, how would you show the extra time once you reach zero ? count up ?
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You could have a secondary clock, like the powerplay clock, appear in a different colour and count down the amount of minutes added on.
 
trippyime said:
You could have a secondary clock, like the powerplay clock, appear in a different colour and count down the amount of minutes added on.
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The problem is that it is up to the umpire to decide when to stop, he may stop at anytime he wants (I know in the last World Cup he had to tell it before but I don't know how it goes in normal games). This means you don't know how much time has to be counted down.
 
ark1 said:
The problem is that it is up to the umpire to decide when to stop, he may stop at anytime he wants (I know in the last World Cup he had to tell it before but I don't know how it goes in normal games). This means you don't know how much time has to be counted down.
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I always thought it was a predetermined amount of time. Whatever, soccer isn't my problem anyway. :)
 
deathbear said:
how anyone can hate soccer is beyond my understanding.
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I don't like it because it's as boring as hell, there's 3455 people on the field, I have no idea who does what out there, have no idea how to spot an offside and there's like 0.9691 goals scored per game with the possibility of scoreless ties. I can't stand the thought of sitting through a 90 minute game and not even seeing one single goal scored.

I'd have more fun watching paint dry.
 
Hoof Hearted said:
I don't like it because it's as boring as hell, there's 3455 people on the field, I have no idea who does what out there, have no idea how to spot an offside and there's like 0.9691 goals scored per game with the possibility of scoreless ties. I can't stand the thought of sitting through a 90 minute game and not even seeing one single goal scored.

I'd have more fun watching paint dry.
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What's funny is that if an American says something like this about hockey, they get called ignorant, and a host of other words that I won't print here.
 
Van said:
I love the whistling. It gives the games a soccer-like atmosphere, and lets be honest, there is no crowd atmosphere like that of a professional soccer match.
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A lot of people get hurt in that soccer crowd "atmosphere" as you call it ;) j/k
trippyime said:
I always thought it was a predetermined amount of time. Whatever, soccer isn't my problem anyway. :)
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It is, but it's rarely exactly the correct amount of time. What I believe the ref does is simply look down at his watch every now and then during the extra time. Often, the amount of time will pass, but the ref won't remember to check his watch and blow the whistle for 10-20 seconds. I'm also pretty sure that there's at least an unwritten rule that you end the half/game only when a play is dead. Even if the time has passed, you'll rarely see a ref blow the whistle if an attacking team is taking a shot on goal; he'll wait until possession is lost, kinda like some situations in hockey (such as blowing because of injury).
 
these olympics are in europe...the fans are mostly european...

they like to whistle...now they are going to whistle even louder...

I agree that the whistling gives the games that rowdy soccer hooligan atmoshere...and it's great.
 
Brule said:
That's only the case if the people get used to it counting up. They'll simply won't be used to the clock counting down.

But by pure logic, counting down is the way to go. You eliminate the mathematical portion of it, no matter how small/simple it is. Nobody really needs to know how much time has gone by, when you can know how much time there is left in the period.
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Yes someone needs to know how much time has gone by. The guys writing down the time of a penalty/goal. :D

As for me, I don't care that much if the clock counts up or down. Both are fine by me. As a fan/player, you don't need to count exactly how many minutes and seconds that are left in a period, you look at the time and know at least to the minute without even thinking how much is left.

But yes, counting down is perhaps simpler. In football though, it has always counted up.
 
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The whistling won't stop.

If there's a powerplay for the other team, fans will whistle to 1) show their displeasure that their team has to play boxplay, 2) to distract the powerplay team, 3) to support their own team and 4) to inform the ref what they think of his decision.

And it's very simple why it's preferred to booing; it's more effective.
 
As for the Canadian TV urging fans not to whistle, ever heard of the idiom "When in Rome, do as the Romans"? The games are being held in Europe this time, so no Canadians or others should come there and dictate for people how to behave. But maybe the Europeans should do the same in Vancouver in 2010, and demand for people not not boo, because they want to whistle and not boo like the Canadians do? ;)

As for the clock counting up and not down, I agree on that, it makes no sense. It used to count down in international play some years ago. I don't remember when they changed it, and I don't know WHY they did as it doesn't really make sense, but I agree that it should count DOWN, it'd be easier for both the crowd and the players to relate to that.
 
Epsilon said:
What's funny is that if an American says something like this about hockey, they get called ignorant, and a host of other words that I won't print here.
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I found that amusing as well.
Plus the fact that he just said he didn't like it because he didn't get what was going on. That's true for every sport out there.
 
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