Why would a player on SJ get pissed off playing on a playoff team ?
Fabian Zetterlund traded to Ottawa
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Contract year although restricted, maybe looking to cash in. Easier playing top line on a bad team opposed to not getting prime minutes on a contender.
Then there's also the possible living in a warm city factor
You can see the compete and intensity, not afraid to play along the wall and blue paint, he’s a tank as well. Could be an Alfie-light version of Alfie, if he can learn to forecheck in the neutral zone and enter the zone under control like Alfie, he could really have impact. Lots of room to grow
I feel like this is the guy they want to move up to play top6 RW next year. Fill out the 4th via FA, leave L2 and L3 intact. Very much a bridge deal incoming.
No it's not. What I am seeing from Highmore & Gaudette is way better than anything I have yet seen from Zetterlund, he has not done a single thing that is in anyway even slightly impressive & I've been calling to replace the other two for a while. What exactly were people impressed with, with this guy?, he's completely invisible since he arrived, Ostapchuk was much more noticeable & Ott needs a 4th line C. I'm not seeing it.
Sometimes the simple explanation is the right one. I guess we're just not changing a winning recipe but I personally don't think the lines are optimal, which unfortunately won't change until we lose a few
It almost seems obvious and it might not go well with Zetterlund's camp. I can't imagine Claude staying quiet if that continues.
I have read "yeah but he should be happy to be on a playoffs team", ok but this is also a business and players are looking to get paid.
lol asking a simple question is automatically "complaining"? Seriously...
IMO Zetterlund is a Top-9 forward on this team and should get a bigger role, maybe the timing is not right as Nyquil mentioned
1- Tim Stützle
2- Brady Tkachuk
3- Drake Batherson
4- Dylan Cozens
5- Shane Pinto
6- Claude Giroux
7- Fabian Zetterlund/Ridly Greig
8- Ridly Greig/Fabian Zetterlund
9- David Perron/Michael Amadio
10- Michael Amadio/David Perron
11- Nick Cousins
12- ...
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Yes, but he needs to do it himself if he wants to play higher up the lineup. So far, I agree with Aragorn that he is not doing much. I hope that is because of the lack of skills such as puck carrying and offensive skills of his linemates.
As Tkachuk seems to be suffering from his injury and may need some rest, Zetterlund might get an opportunity to play on line 2 or 3 soon. I hope he does well there.
ok but is it what Staios had in mind when giving up his 2nd round pick and one of the best "prospects" in the organization to acquire him?
But I understand that Green can't demote them as they have been playing their best hockey of the season by a gigantic margin. Maybe the deadline approaching lit a fire under their arses.
And also hard to demote Giroux...
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It was a loaded question with a veiled complaint, if it wasn't you would have answered it yourself seeing as it isn't very complicated.
Multiple people said it's about timing. That wasnt necessarily the case a week ago but you can't argue with the lines right now, Green would be foolish to break them up. Consider him an injury replacement for the top 9 at this rate. Bounty of riches. If we keep clicking up and down the lineup I hope Green starts using that luxury to spread more ice time to the 4th and keep legs fresh and limit chance of injury.
And how many posts or even hockey periods do you think I have read/watched recently? Frankly, very little since the deadline. I haven't even watched a full hockey period. I thought this was going to be a big acquisition and Zetterlund was going to be used as a Top-9 or even as a Top-6 player. THAT IS ALL.
I am just not as much of a hardcore NHL fan as before, these 7 years of apathy changed things for me so if/when I don't have the time, I'm simply going to skip. That is why I had no idea why Zetterlund hasn't been more important to the team since that's what I was expecting
Staios traded for top 9 capable depth and we may need it going forward. Better to have it and not need it vs the other way around.
We have 3 very good lines right now. Zetturlund is playing on the 4th line for now .. that is all...
If we had a 4th line of Cousins Lizotte Zetterlund .. it would maybe not be ideal for Zetturlund but it would be hugely improved and the 4th line would not be a liability as it is now and allow Green to roll 4 lines which would be huge down the stretch and into the playoffs.
I was clamoring for a 4C upgrade at the TDL but we spent our capital on Zetterlund who overall and longer term Staios graded as a better asset to acquire
He will eventually move up the lineup either via injury or organically through roster changes in the next couple years. This wasn’t a rental move
I can’t believe people are freaking out because we haven’t lost a game since the deadline with our new acquisitions playing in every game.
What is more exciting than Zetterlund is the fact that we have 10 forwards playing right now that we want to see on the ice.
I’d like to see what he can do with better players, I said as much a week ago, but unless someone can give me a credible lineup that involves one of the other nine dropping to the fourth right now, you pretty much have to keep rolling.
What is more exciting than Zetterlund is the fact that we have 10 forwards playing right now that we want to see on the ice.
I’d like to see what he can do with better players, I said as much a week ago, but unless someone can give me a credible lineup that involves one of the other nine dropping to the fourth right now, you pretty much have to keep rolling.
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Absolutely. 37 yr old Giroux and 36 yr old Perron simply cannot both be in the top 6 next year.
Tkachuk - Stutzle - Zetterlund
Perron/Giroux/Greig - Cozens - Batherson
Perron/Giroux/Greig - Pinto - Amadio
Perron/Giroux - ??? - Cousins?/???
Year after I don't see either Giroux or Perron being on the team.
Zett ain't comparable to what Grieg brings at all. Ridly is better without question.
Perron and Amadio both have cup winning experience, are making great contributions right now, are smart players, and developing very good chemistry with their respective linemates. We have been putting line combos through the meat grinder all year and now things are starting to stabilize at the most critical point of the season.
Zetterlund has scored 40 meaningless goals over the last 2 years getting minutes and opportunities he would not normally have on a playoff contending team. Hell, not even a contender, even one that's simply not a basement dweller.
If there's stress that he's so much of a prima donna he'll demand to be traded or ask for crazy $ next contract - see you later and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Guy is probably ecstatic to be part of a team that's winning and going to the playoffs instead. Getting 15 mins a night and losing sucks way more than 10 a night and winning.
Yes, now I understand all that since it has been talked about. Maybe it was talked about before but I have been mostly inactive the last 5-6 days so I had no idea how it went for Zetterlund, I am catching up and see his ice-time
I think one question remains, is how this will go with Zetterlund's camp if it continues? Obviously no one has that answer and we'll have to wait and see how it goes but I think there's still things to talk about even though "the team is winning"
Maybe he was promised a Top-9 role next season and they don't plan to bring back Giroux? Or move Perron? If that's the case, will Lemieux push for a 1 year bridge so his client could finally cash in? I personally think it's too early to draw conclusions, we can only discuss and speculate
Who is freaking out? I haven't read between monday and now but I don't see anything else than some Zetterlund discussion.
If the sens try to negotiate with him based on the role they placed him in I wouldn’t have a problem if he said naaaaaaah to being here but that’s a problem for another day
ok so an injury insurance policy for now. Worst case scenario, it's very reassuring than just having Gaudette
That said, I was expecting Zetterlund to be more incorporated right away but understand why Green is keeping the recipe intact.
I have been a bigger Greig fan than at least 95% of this board (and it goes back to prospects polls) but this is debatable. Greig's game has not finished evolving but as of now Zetterlund is older and much stronger and has a deadly shot. I don't think they fill similar roles anyway and I don't want Greig to be demoted, he's perfect on the 3rd line for now.
And that's the thing, it's hard to find one guy to get demoted. Giroux because it's Giroux and Perron/Amadio because they have been playing much better hockey lately than the rest of the season by a significant margin. Maybe Sens were not expecting that to continue or that it kept getting better, I know I wasn't
I don't think he's going to be like that but it's also impossible to neglect the financial aspect, these guys are here to make money and he would cash in this summer if he was UFA. Maybe he signs a 1 year bridge this summer or maybe he still gets paid enough by Ottawa to satisfy his camp.
Yeah if we try and low ball him, especially if he feels we artificially deflated his value, he's going to go to arbitration, probably get 3+ mil x 1-2 y and just walk. Don't think the team would do that though, they clearly see something in the guy.
Assuming we finish the year strong, I could see them bridge him at 2.5M x 1-2 years and then reassess if he fits in medium-long term plans, resign him on a 5x5 or something if he's actually a middle-6 guy.
I actually find when I tune in Highmore is often directly responsible for 2-3 high risk chances against Ottawa.
He's like the Chabot on forward that gives the puck away on a break out, despite lots of room and pressure. Or he makes the bonehead play and forces a pass.
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