News Article: Fabbro on waivers

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Sadly for us up here, that goal by Fabbro was the only one the Jackets scored that evening. With his arrival Evason has resumed trying to make Provorov-Severson work again and it doesn't. It just doesn't.

But yeah, he's looked good. :)
Good for Fabbro. And makes it even more clear that waiving him was a dumb decision.
 

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I don't feel different about one or the other. I hoped they both had success. Neither of them did anything to deserve the fate we gave them.
Tolvanen succeeding really just irritated me because it was apparent to me that he was NHL quality and him succeeding elsewhere was just proof of that. Made me irritated at our scouting/player development/etc. Good on him.

Fabbro continues the trend but now im hoping his success will drive changes. I hope he turns out to be a real 1st pairing rhd
 

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Tolvanen succeeding really just irritated me because it was apparent to me that he was NHL quality and him succeeding elsewhere was just proof of that. Made me irritated at our scouting/player development/etc. Good on him.

Fabbro continues the trend but now im hoping his success will drive changes. I hope he turns out to be a real 1st pairing rhd
I guess the difference so far is that Tolvanen I was expecting to do about what he has been doing. Fabbro... well I didn't expect 3 pts or 20 mins a night right away... I don't imagine he'll keep up a 0.75ppg pace, of course, but even the icetime has been a tad higher than I was thinking. Good for him.

I'm sure none of it will drive any changes, however. We'll see how Tomasino does when he finds his next home. Then even if he succeeds likewise, I STILL doubt it will drive any changes. We'll just be on to wondering why Evangelista plateaued and fizzled out after looking so good at first and when he might be let go. Rinse, repeat. :rolleyes:
 

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I guess the difference so far is that Tolvanen I was expecting to do about what he has been doing. Fabbro... well I didn't expect 3 pts or 20 mins a night right away... I don't imagine he'll keep up a 0.75ppg pace, of course, but even the icetime has been a tad higher than I was thinking. Good for him.

I'm sure none of it will drive any changes, however. We'll see how Tomasino does when he finds his next home. Then even if he succeeds likewise, I STILL doubt it will drive any changes. We'll just be on to wondering why Evangelista plateaued and fizzled out after looking so good at first and when he might be let go. Rinse, repeat. :rolleyes:
Yeh fabbro isnt that kind of offensive player but he is better than he was treated here. Probably best utilized as a 2nd pairing.

There has been a string of young players here now that start well, plateaued, and/or regressed. Fabbro, Tolvanen, Tomasino, now Evangelista. I really just want a coach that is willing to let those players work through things instead of yanking them around the lineup or putting them into the pressbox for future waivers.
 

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Yeh fabbro isnt that kind of offensive player but he is better than he was treated here. Probably best utilized as a 2nd pairing.

There has been a string of young players here now that start well, plateaued, and/or regressed. Fabbro, Tolvanen, Tomasino, now Evangelista. I really just want a coach that is willing to let those players work through things instead of yanking them around the lineup or putting them into the pressbox for future waivers.
Too bad we can't hire the guy who is getting all the young players ready to go when they hit the NHL.

To build on the Evangelista point it's truly remarkable to me how we have given him so little chance to play with our top players to grow his game. In the past he's been the guy everyone has pointed to as earning his opportunity and even he can barely get anything. Like why are we not trying him with Forsberg, O'Reilly, Marchesseault, or Nyquist?
 

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How did Forsberg make it onto this list??? I thought the top of this list was just for guys we shouldn't be playing or should scratch/waive/demote/trade?

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It's these guys we need to be playing more...

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... assuming we're trying to get that #1 pick anyway. That's the plan, right? :dunno:
 

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Too bad we can't hire the guy who is getting all the young players ready to go when they hit the NHL.

To build on the Evangelista point it's truly remarkable to me how we have given him so little chance to play with our top players to grow his game. In the past he's been the guy everyone has pointed to as earning his opportunity and even he can barely get anything. Like why are we not trying him with Forsberg, O'Reilly, Marchesseault, or Nyquist?
Just continuing the trend from last season of keeping all the good vets together instead of spreading them out at all.
 

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Sadly for us up here, that goal by Fabbro was the only one the Jackets scored that evening. With his arrival Evason has resumed trying to make Provorov-Severson work again and it doesn't. It just doesn't.

But yeah, he's looked good. :)
Evason is an idiot. I figured that out when he played Trenin every other game during one season in Milwaukee.

Who can use a mobile big man who plays defense, checks people and scores goals? Not Dean.

He spent six long years in Milwaukee. Or was that me, during his all too long tenure?

Good luck, Dante Fabbro!
 

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Evason is an idiot. I figured that out when he played Trenin every other game during one season in Milwaukee.

Who can use a mobile big man who plays defense, checks people and scores goals? Not Dean.

He spent six long years in Milwaukee. Or was that me, during his all too long tenure?

Good luck, Dante Fabbro!
To his partial credit, that last game against Boston he stopped trying and instead went to Werenski-Severson and Provorov-Fabbro. And Provorov-Fabbro did fine as the second pairing. Werenski-Severson, on the other hand...

...hey, I hear folks here are in need of a RHD, we've got a guy! don't, really, you don't want him
 

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To his partial credit, that last game against Boston he stopped trying and instead went to Werenski-Severson and Provorov-Fabbro. And Provorov-Fabbro did fine as the second pairing. Werenski-Severson, on the other hand...

...hey, I hear folks here are in need of a RHD, we've got a guy! don't, really, you don't want him
I mean they aren't lying. He stunk in Milwaukee, we were all super happy to see him go. He stunk in Minnesota and got fired. Now maybe he learned something finally but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
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I mean they aren't lying. He stunk in Milwaukee, we were all super happy to see him go. He stunk in Minnesota and got fired. Now maybe he learned something finally but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Dean Evason's record in Milwaukee.
He coached for six 76 game seasons.

2012-13 41-28-0-7 Lost in round 1
2013-14 39-24-0-13 Lost in round 1
2014-15 33-28-0-15 Out of Playoffs
2015-16 48-23-0-5 Lost in round 1
2016-17 43-26-0-7 Lost in round 1
2017-18 38-32-0-6 Out of Playoffs

In Milwaukee, NONE of these seasons would be considered as successful.

Evason never came up with anything for the playoffs.

Examples of what he could have done are: playing a neutral zone trap at even strength, playing a left wing lock or playing the torpedo system.

On offense, I have seen a team play with 4 players on one side of the ice and one on the other side.

Evason tried none of those four ideas in the playoffs and had zero success.


Evason also had similar results in his three full seasons as the Wild HC. His teams Lost in round 1 each time. In 2021-22, the Wild went 53-22-0-7 (0.689) finishing second in the Central Division with 113 points and were knocked out in round 1, losing 4-2 to third place St Louis.
 
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Viqsi

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Dean Evason's record in Milwaukee.
He coached for six 76 game seasons.

2012-13 41-28-0-7 Lost in round 1
2013-14 39-24-0-13 Lost in round 1
2014-15 33-28-0-15 Out of Playoffs
2015-16 48-23-0-5 Lost in round 1
2016-17 43-26-0-7 Lost in round 1
2017-18 38-32-0-6 Out of Playoffs

In Milwaukee, NONE of these seasons would be considered as successful.

Evason never came up with anything for the playoffs.

Examples of what he could have done are: playing a neutral zone trap at even strength, playing a left wing lock or playing the torpedo system.

On offense, I have seen a team play with 4 players on one side of the ice and one on the other side.

Evason tried none of those four ideas in the playoffs and had zero success.


Evason also had similar results in his three full seasons as the Wild HC. His teams Lost in round 1 each time. In 2021-22, the Wild went 53-22-0-7 (0.689) finishing second in the Central Division with 113 points and were knocked out in round 1, losing 4-2 to third place St Louis.
At the risk of drawing things further off topic, I will merely point out that, when confronted with the whole "he can never make it further in the playoffs" thing after his hire, the HFCBJ fanbase reaction was near-unanimously "Playoffs? WGAF? You need to actually be able to get to the playoffs before you can lose in them." ;) (The theory being that if he can deliver a team that can at least be on the bubble, then we can move on and get someone else who will take us further. Crawl before you walk and walk before you run and all that.)
 

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At the risk of drawing things further off topic, I will merely point out that, when confronted with the whole "he can never make it further in the playoffs" thing after his hire, the HFCBJ fanbase reaction was near-unanimously "Playoffs? WGAF? You need to actually be able to get to the playoffs before you can lose in them." ;) (The theory being that if he can deliver a team that can at least be on the bubble, then we can move on and get someone else who will take us further. Crawl before you walk and walk before you run and all that.)

For the sake of some of the kids there, I hope they stick it out with Evason for at least 3 seasons. Some of them are already on their 4th coach in the past 3 seasons, that's got to be a nightmare for their development.
 
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