Rumor: Fabbro close to long term extension?

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[CBJ goalie]

Wonderful news.
He fit in well, and you could see how much he enjoyed it and wants to remain a Blue Jacket.

 

[EspenK]

So time for speculation. How much? How long?

at least 5 mill. for at least 5 years

I'll guess 5.25 for 6 years

 

[Cyclones Rock]

So time for speculation. How much? How long?

at least 5 mill. for at least 5 years

I'll guess 5.25 for 6 years

Too much for too long is my guess. Waiver wire Cinderella carriages sport great turn back to pumpkins odds.

 

[EspenK]

Too much for too long is my guess. Waiver wire Cinderella carriages sport great turn back to pumpkins odds.

So you don't believe the rumor? I don't think 5 is too long; 6 might be pushiing it. Do you consider 4 a LT deal?

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

5 years x 4.5M AAV

 

[cbjthrowaway]

hedger said $20m over either 4 or 5 years. i’d be good with either but also it’s hedger so take it with a giant hunk of salt

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[Cyclones Rock]

So you don't believe the rumor? I don't think 5 is too long; 6 might be pushiing it. Do you consider 4 a LT deal?

I'm just not sold on the guy. Let's say they sign him at $5m/yr or so. Then you have him at $5, Severson at $6.25 and Z at $9.6. That's 3 dmen at $21m and I only see one that's a true first or second pairing dman. And it's not Fabbor or Severson

Then let's say Mateychuk explodes this year and becomes an obvious candidate for an 8 year deal. He'll run$6-9 million and then you have $27-30 million committed for 4 dmen of which 2 are basically fillers-bottom pairing guys. Too rich a mixture for that crew, IMO. And don't forget that Z comes up when all of these contracts would be active.

I get that Fabbro plays well with Z, but he's soft as butter and not what I'd look for in a dman for the heavier hockey in the playoffs.

I know I'm in a small minority here, but I'd give him a take it or leave it cheap deal (2yrs @ $3.5-4) and be very willing to risk losing him.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

I get that Fabbro plays well with Z, but he's soft as butter and not what I'd look for in a dman for the heavier hockey in the playoffs.

What's that? He led the teams defenseman in hits with 66. Zach had 19 all year. He's a lot of things, soft ain't one. Also led the team in blocked shots despite only playing 62 games here.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

What's that? He led the teams defenseman in hits with 66. Zach had 19 all year. He's a lot of things, soft ain't one. Also led the team in blocked shots despite only playing 62 games here.

66 hits is nothing. And Dante's "hits" should mostly be considered bumps. Olivier had 306 hits FYI.

He's a soft, low physical event dman who brings a smattering of offense to the table despite being paired with Z.

IMO, he's very overrated by the CBJ fanbase on this board. My guess is he'll sign here. I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

 

[majormajor]

66 hits is nothing. And Dante's "hits" should mostly be considered bumps. Olivier had 306 hits FYI.

He's a soft, low physical event dman who brings a smattering of offense to the table despite being paired with Z.

Those hit counts don't even count all the times he uses his frame well to angle opponents off to the boards or box out around our net. I think he's been very good defensively. One of the least likely players to make a mistake as well.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I get that Fabbro plays well with Z, but he's soft as butter and not what I'd look for in a dman for the heavier hockey in the playoffs.

putting aside that another commenter pointed out that he led the team’s defensemen in hits (lol) for a second

you can only register a hit if your team doesn’t have the puck. when the werenski-fabbro pair was out there, guess which team usually had the puck

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I have a hard time determining what is value really is. What exactly is "long term"?

Is that 5 years or more? And for how much?

He had a small sample size with us but he ultimately was a waiver claim after all where Nashville couldn't find an acceptable trade for him. What is too much and too long?

I don't believe he belongs on the top pair if we are going to become a really good team but if he's a 2nd pair guy with Mateychuk that is a pretty small pairing with no size and I find that concerning.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

He had a small sample size with us but he ultimately was a waiver claim after all where Nashville couldn't find an acceptable trade for him.

gustav forsling was a waiver claim too.

what matters is that he was really good. where a player came from stops mostly mattering once they get here.

I don't believe he belongs on the top pair if we are going to become a really good team

tampa won multiple cups with jan rutta playing next to victor hedman.

if your #1 is that good, you can load up your second and third pairs if you have a guy who can play simple, complimentary hockey. that’s fabbro.

if they do get another “top pair” defenseman, the smart move would be to let them run the second pair instead of loading up the one with werenski. would functionally give them two top pairs.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

gustav forsling was a waiver claim too.

what matters is that he was really good. where a player came from stops mostly mattering once they get here.

tampa won multiple cups with jan rutta playing next to victor hedman.

if your #1 is that good, you can load up your second and third pairs if you have a guy who can play simple, complimentary hockey. that’s fabbro.

if they do get another “top pair” defenseman, the smart move would be to let them run the second pair instead of loading up the one with werenski. would functionally give them two top pairs.

I'm also concerned about Werenski's workload, His average TOI last year was a full 1 minute more than the next closest player. We need to not rely on him to carry the entire defense. It would be nice to have someone somewhere capable of taking a small portion of that workload.

 

[majormajor]

I'm also concerned about Werenski's workload, His average TOI last year was a full 1 minute more than the next closest player. We need to not rely on him to carry the entire defense. It would be nice to have someone somewhere capable of taking a small portion of that workload.

That seems more like a job for Mateychuk, as a left sider he can spot Werenski more as he matures. That and/or get a strong defender LD like Gavrikov or Pelech to take some of those minutes. Fabbro and the RDs can't play in Werenski's stead.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I'm also concerned about Werenski's workload, His average TOI last year was a full 1 minute more than the next closest player. We need to not rely on him to carry the entire defense. It would be nice to have someone somewhere capable of taking a small portion of that workload.

werenski’s pair was the only truly effective one the jackets had, so they rode him hard.

up-leveling his partner from fabbro to someone better only makes that particular problem worse.

using their assets to turn the second (and maybe even the third) pair into a strength? that’s how you reduce werenski’s minutes without making the team worse for it.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Likelihood they keep Dante Fabbro? Likelihood they keep Ivan Provorov? — Scott Q.

The sense as of this weekend is that Fabbro was moving in the right direction toward a deal and Provorov was yet to really get serious. Obviously, this can all change quickly. But I’d put Fabbro at a “quite likely” to re-sign and Provorov at a couple of spots below that.

Blue Jackets mailbag, part 1: Fabbro’s future, trade possibilities, contender status check

How might Don Waddell go about reshaping the Blue Jackets' defensive corps?

www.nytimes.com

 

[Doggy]

werenski’s pair was the only truly effective one the jackets had, so they rode him hard.

up-leveling his partner from fabbro to someone better only makes that particular problem worse.

using their assets to turn the second (and maybe even the third) pair into a strength? that’s how you reduce werenski’s minutes without making the team worse for it.

Doesn't up-leveling the second pair with Fabbro dropping down lessen the burden on the top pair?

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Doesn't up-leveling the second pair with Fabbro dropping down lessen the burden on the top pair?

only if mateychuk makes an enormous leap, in which case fabbro is still playing a complimentary role rather than being the guy to up-level that pair.

 

[AnonCommentary]

I wouldn’t mind Fabbro on a short team deal. He works with Werenski but I’m not sure he’s the ideal long term partner. Gives you time to go out and find better options for Werenski that can not make the pressure for Z on the blue line so difficult. I know it’s a really unpopular opinion.

 

[Xoggz22]

I wouldn’t mind Fabbro on a short team deal. He works with Werenski but I’m not sure he’s the ideal long term partner. Gives you time to go out and find better options for Werenski that can not make the pressure for Z on the blue line so difficult. I know it’s a really unpopular opinion.

not directed specifically at you, but I think people are equating Fabbro and long term deal as the permanent partner for Z. Hell, if that were the case they should be figuring out how to manage Severson up there given his contract.

I think of it like Monahan. He's signed, for now, as the 1C. That's expected to change of the life of his contract and his contract isn't onerous to a point that it's impactful if even slid down the lineup. he's a flexible asset and the NHL today is more a top 9 at forward, not slotted like historical "lines" (yes, still loose, but that's driven by ice time anyway). I think Fabbro would be a great top 4 guy and could even be a bottom pair by the end of his contract depending on how long it is. It's not going to be a $7MM AAV type deal (I sure hope not) so the connotation that he's Z's partner for the life of the contract should be pushed to the back. He CAN play there, but is well suited on the 2nd pair too if someone else fills that top pair role.

I think he's a good 5 year guy to have, similar to how they approached Monahan.

 

[MissADD]

I think a contract extension would be a good birthday gift

 

[Viqsi]

I'm beginning to suspect a couple folks here would rather have a defenseman that gets out of position regularly to chase Big Hits rather than one that's consistently skilled enough with his stick to disrupt plays such that he doesn't have to land that big hit.

We don't need someone next to Werenski to carry that pairing. Werenski carries that pairing.