F William Horcoff - Little Ceasers, U15 AAA (2025 Draft)

[NA Hockey]

Was he really though? (Elite? )I mean he was 6’3 at 15 and born in first week of january . Those two things right there gives him a massive advantage early . Same with Morin . I’ve never seen Horcoff play but have Morin and latter was simply physically overpowering kids at 13 and 14.

Agreed, and doesn't seem to look as good when his dad isn't controlling the bench, ice time and line mates. Not a lot different situation than another Detroit Red Wing executive who coached his son all the way, got his kid drafted and to Michigan, though Horcoff is a lot better than Drape at the same age.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

This guy is pretty good, but he should get that cough checked out. Makes him sound like a lady of the night.

 

[norrisnick]

Detroit nepo pick incoming.

Horcoff can room with Draper at UM...

 

[Bank Shot]

The skating thing is really weird because his dad could really move around out there.

I don't think skating was a plus for Horcoff on draft day.

That guy worked his bag off on improving his game.

If his son has the same work ethic as his dad, I wouldn't count him out from being an NHLer.

 

[wetcoast]

I don't think skating was a plus for Horcoff on draft day.

That guy worked his bag off on improving his game.

If his son has the same work ethic as his dad, I wouldn't count him out from being an NHLer.

I dunno as I remember watching him a couple of times back in Chilliwack and he was flying out there.

 

[La Bamba]

I remember watching this when it just came out and to think that the baby in the troller is already 17 and a soon to be pro hockey player... I feel old and I'm not even in my 30s yet lol

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I remember watching this when it just came out and to think that the baby in the troller is already 17 and a soon to be pro hockey player... I feel old and I'm not even in my 30s yet lol

Oh screw off.

I watched Shawn in college.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Horcoff to Michigan for spring term/2nd half of season. Kinda odd move, NTDP falling apart rn

 

[William H Bonney]

Horcoff to Michigan for spring term/2nd half of season. Kinda odd move, NTDP falling apart rn.

Horcoff sucks, so while it's not really a loss for the NTDP, it is indicative to your point of the rot within the NTDP right now. They need to clean house on the coaching and management staffs.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I would not be completely surprised if his agent or dad or whoever was told he was going to be demoted in two or three months, so he decided to jump ship now.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Horcoff sucks, so while it's not really a loss for the NTDP, it is indicative to your point of the rot within the NTDP right now. They need to clean house on the coaching and management staffs.

Remains to be seen if it's just a lost year due to not great players and then just bad circumstances compounding on each other, or a sign of bad things. It wasn't that long ago (as in like three years ago) you had the 04s as the U18 and the 05s as the U17 and the overall program never looked stronger. Probably a bit too soon to shovel dirt on the whole thing just because the 07s have basically been a mess since they arrived.

 

[Finster8]

Should have went to Saginaw with Trethaway and get 30++ games and some quality TOI and develop their games

 

[jtechkid]

I would not be completely surprised if his agent or dad or whoever was told he was going to be demoted in two or three months, so he decided to jump ship now.

makes sense - got keep imagine up . i still give 70% chance michigan coach fired in 3 years too.

 

[Kingpin794]

makes sense - got keep imagine up . i still give 70% chance michigan coach fired in 3 years too.

Any reason why you think this? Seems like he's pumping out high end talent and making the program as relevant as they've ever been. Michigan has plenty of money to throw around to attract talent. He uses a more modern, player friendly style.

 

[jtechkid]

Any reason why you think this? Seems like he's pumping out high end talent and making the program as relevant as they've ever been. Michigan has plenty of money to throw around to attract talent. He uses a more modern, player friendly style.

I think when he got hired not sure he had best background( experience ) but they needed to hire someone( blowup) and he had a great year but he was interim coach i think the whole year too . Your right Michigan is a big name , big money so i think he has somewhat short leash before they hire a big experienced name . I think hes safe next 2-3 years but if he doesnt get say to frozen four in that time is more my point .

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

1+1=2 points in his first 2 games.

 

[montreal]

1+1=2 points in his first 2 games.

his goal at the 9:13 mark, big body for sure,

 

[UpsideHockey]

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[jtechkid]

I actually think Belle could sneak into the mid - late second round based on the profile above .

 

[LeProspector]

With how he has played at Michigan after middling numbers with the NTSP, it begs the question. Is the NTDP falling apart?

With how Epperson has revived his stock after it plummeted at the NTDP as well - I think the NTDP is showing cracks that it might not be the best place anymore for 16/17 year olds to develop.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

With how he has played at Michigan after middling numbers with the NTSP, it begs the question. Is the NTDP falling apart?

With how Epperson has revived his stock after it plummeted at the NTDP as well - I think the NTDP is showing cracks that it might not be the best place anymore for 16/17 year olds to develop.

Not falling apart but it was a weak group to begin with. Not sure if there was any off ice issues at the NTDP that enticed him enroll at Michigan early.

In regards to Epperson, he was behind 7 forwards on the 2006 group that were far more productive than him. He simply made the smart decision to stay in junior for another year & get far more opportunity on Saginaw. Additionally, production is much higher in O, whereas the older USHL is much more defensive/stifling, harder to put up big numbers.

 

[jtechkid]

Not falling apart but it was a weak group to begin with. Not sure if there was any off ice issues at the NTDP that enticed him enroll at Michigan early.

In regards to Epperson, he was behind 7 forwards on the 2006 group that were far more productive than him. He simply made the smart decision to stay in junior for another year & get far more opportunity on Saginaw. Additionally, production is much higher in O, whereas the older USHL is much more defensive/stifling, harder to put up big numbers.

The negative I’ve heard on NTDP is they put players in certain roles and you have a tough time getting out -bottom 6 - PK - ect and they prop certain kids and they don’t move away from that model . To Have Potter and him leave is a major red flag on the program where both will be probably top 2 rounds nhl draft picks . One guy that’s been good on here keeps saying they want get rid of u -17 team which makes sense.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

With how he has played at Michigan after middling numbers with the NTSP, it begs the question. Is the NTDP falling apart?

With how Epperson has revived his stock after it plummeted at the NTDP as well - I think the NTDP is showing cracks that it might not be the best place anymore for 16/17 year olds to develop.

Has he played well or he’s having some small sample statistical luck? Have you watched a single game of him at Michigan to say he’s playing a lot better?

Has Epperson’s game changed or he’s just lighting up a junior league relative to the higher level his peers are playing at?