F Michael Misa - Saginaw Spirit, OHL (2025 Draft)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

.3 of a year average of age difference when comparing 2 leagues with thousands of players between them is literally just noise. It's like saying the two leagues are exactly the same age.

Secondly, using the echl as evedince of "pro" career is a joke. It's a glorified beer league. If you're playing in that league your either young enough to hope to one day play in a real pro league, or hockey is basically a hobby for you. At that point you probably should of went to culinary or trucking school.

Thirdly, virtually all the players that do go on to play in the Ahl or Nhl from the Ushl don't go straight to pro hockey. They go to the Ncaa and then go pro. Obviously, Chlers don't have an intermediate college step. They go straight from the Ohl to the Ahl or Nhl. The implications of that difference should be so obvious as to not need further explaining.

Again though, you basically asserted the OHL is in another galaxy. I'm not sure how you've arrived at that.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I have no idea about the mhl, so you're guess is better than mine. That said, I wouldn't put any stock whatsoever in wins and losses at the U17 Challenge. If Canada really cared about placement at that tournament they wouldn't send 2 teams obviously. Right?
It's mostly just an extended evaluation camp for Canada.

OHL is just one of three CHL leagues, isn't it? So if two CHL teams can't beat other leagues, why do you think 1/3 of the CHL can?

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I don't care what anybody says, he's who I'd take with the first overall pick. He's going to have a long and memorable career. He'll end up winning a cup and being inducted into the HHOF.

 

[Chelios]

As someone who wants to, you know, read about Misa, can we take this pissing contest somewhere else?

 

[HawksDub89]

Every team in the OHL would destroy every team in the USHL. Full stop.

Gtfo lol

 

[FLAMESFAN]

All I know is that the CHL wiped the ice with the USNDP. Absolute domination.

 

[Bonin21]

All I know is that the CHL wiped the ice with the USNDP. Absolute domination.

You mean the CHL all star team vs the really weak NTDP class? Sure, they got worked. But seems like two years later the US prospects seem to catch up based on recent WJCs... And now the depth at the senior level is showing, too...

As to the question of how the CHL guys will do in the NCAA, they'll be fine. The rich get richer. So the guys that go to the top NCAA teams will obviously have a higher likelihood of succeeding over a 2-4 year career in the NCAA. But in general, because they are hand picked at 20/21 years old from the CHL, most of them will fit in just fine.

 

[joe66]

OHL is just one of three CHL leagues, isn't it? So if two CHL teams can't beat other leagues, why do you think 1/3 of the CHL can?

Canada initially had 5 teams in the U17 challenge, but reduced this to 3 teams starting in 2014. In the last two U17 tournaments, they entered 2 teams each time and won both.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Canada initially had 5 teams in the U17 challenge, but reduced this to 3 teams starting in 2014. In the last two U17 tournaments, they entered 2 teams each time and won both.

Yeah, but with no Russians, and as far as I undertand Americans don't usually send their best kids to the tournament.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

As someone who wants to, you know, read about Misa, can we take this pissing contest somewhere else?

This. I think it would probably be cool to start a USHL Vs. OHL Vs. NCAA thread and have a proper discussion there.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Pretty impressive totals from Misa.


Edit: sorry delete, wrong thread.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

There was a brief period when Misa was listed as being the best prospect in this draft. Then Hagens took over and now Schaefer is there too.

Even though I would still lean towards Schaefer, I can definitely see Misa going #1. He's a dynamic, electric talent that has dominated this season.

 

[newmanager]

Must be notable then right, that Hagens is outscored by Leonard and Perreault then over the course of a full season (and not just 8 games), who are also a year older than Hagens?

Actually Chernyshov is 2 years older than Misa.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Calum Ritchie is outpacing Beckett Sennecke, Andrew Cristall is outpacing Berkly Catton, and Gabe Perreault is outscoring James Hagens. It is very common for 19 year olds drafted in the late 1st/2nd to outscore elite 18 year olds, never mind 17 year olds. Chernyshov outscoring Misa doesn't mean anything about Misa.

 

[joe66]

Yeah, but with no Russians, and as far as I undertand Americans don't usually send their best kids to the tournament.

The Americans send the u17 team you're thinking of ivan hlinka. Also you really want to start discrediting every international tournament in which the russians don't participate because they also didn't participate in the world jrs u20.

 

[Kshahdoo]

The Americans send the u17 team you're thinking of ivan hlinka. Also you really want to start discrediting every international tournament in which the russians don't participate because they also didn't participate in the world jrs u20.

Well, Russians didn't win a lot of WJCs before 2022, it's different for U17 World Challenge. And we're talking about OHL vs other junior leagues...

 

[joe66]

Well, Russians didn't win a lot of WJCs before 2022, it's different for U17 World Challenge. And we're talking about OHL vs other junior leagues...

Yeah, you keep moving the goalposts. Russia (after the Soviet era) has won 4 golds and 10 silvers at the WJC, and 5 golds and 2 silvers at the U17. I know what’s being discussed, but it’s hard to take your opinion seriously when you can’t even be bothered to verify your information before you post it.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Yeah, you keep moving the goalposts. Russia (after the Soviet era) has won 4 golds and 10 silvers at the WJC, and 5 golds and 2 silvers at the U17. I know what’s being discussed, but it’s hard to take your opinion seriously when you can’t even be bothered to verify your information before you post it.

I know Team Russia won 2 last U17 it participated in. I know Russian MHLers won tons of superseries games vs CHLers, and it's U20 games. It looks like you're a little bit biased...

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

American insecurity is wild. Also ruining the world and this thread.

 

[Star Platinum]

American insecurity is wild. Also ruining the world and this thread.

Imagine a world where prospect threads could be about discussing the prospect in the title instead of the same 4-5 people having their petty arguments in all of them

 

[Kingpin794]

One thing you'll notice with his goals is that there is a good chunk of them where Misa isn't more than 10 feet out from the goalie. Yes he has a great shot, but he's also comfortable going to the net to tip a puck or jam home a rebound.

 

[kyle44]

Imagine a world where prospect threads could be about discussing the prospect in the title instead of the same 4-5 people having their petty arguments in all of them

One poster has single handedly ruined this board for me. Just petty foolishness in every thread.

 

[PensFan101]

One thing you'll notice with his goals is that there is a good chunk of them where Misa isn't more than 10 feet out from the goalie. Yes he has a great shot, but he's also comfortable going to the net to tip a puck or jam home a rebound.

Lost in this thread, Misa the third guy in 25 years to have 50 in 50 during his draft season. The other two guys were in their 18 year old season. The other two guys have also had incredible NHL careers.

Misa's a heck of a consolation prize for the team that misses out on Schaefer.

 

[Corso]

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Lost in this thread, Misa the third guy in 25 years to have 50 in 50 during his draft season. The other two guys were in their 18 year old season. The other two guys have also had incredible NHL careers.

Misa's a heck of a consolation prize for the team that misses out on Schaefer.

He will be the prohibitive favorite 1OA if he continues at this rate through the rest of the season and through the playoffs.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

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Lost in this thread, Misa the third guy in 25 years to have 50 in 50 during his draft season. The other two guys were in their 18 year old season. The other two guys have also had incredible NHL careers.

Misa's a heck of a consolation prize for the team that misses out on Schaefer.

The other two were also 1st overall picks. Considering Schaefer has like 15 games played, Misa might end up surpassing him between now and June.