LeProspector
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Could legitimately be the next Johnny Gaudreau
F Mac Swanson - Univ. of North Dakota, NCAA (2024, 207th, PIT)
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Pavel Buchnevich
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Caps off his season with Playoff MVP. Lead the playoffs in scoring by 7 points with 5+12=17 points in 12 games. His 17 points in this year's playoffs were tied for the most in the USHL since the 2016 playoffs.
Won all of the following this season for Fargo:
Won all of the following this season for Fargo:
- Regular season title
- Playoff title
- League All First Team
- League Forward of the Year
- League Player of the Year
- League Playoff MVP
Hockeyville USA
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Schlossman has said that scouts told him that Swanson should be a Hobey finalist before his time at UND is done. North Dakota fans will be in for a treat, will be following his progress.
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Pavel Buchnevich
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In the article he was referred to by an anonymous scout as 5’7, but Central Scouting had him at 5’8 in the most recent listing. We’ll get a better idea at the combine of what he actually is, but his father is 5’10 or 5’11, so it wouldn’t be too big of a surprise if he grew an inch or two from last season through this one.
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Pavel Buchnevich
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Would be quite pathetic if they didn’t invite the best player in the USHL to the combine because he’s a little small.
They invite like four rounds of players, so I think he’ll probably make it.
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He's grown on me. His vision and ability to see the ice is the best I've seen of a player in the past three drafts. He makes some incredible feeds. He's a powerplay wizard. He's small and lacks the burst to separate.. that's a concern for any player when projecting their offense to higher levels. Is he slippery enough and does he anticipate the play well enough that it doesn't matter? Odds are against him and that's why he probably won't be a top 75 pick, but I give him more of chance then I did at the beginning of the year. He's either a 45+ assist player or an AHL superstar. I don't see any in between here.
If you put him a grouping with Max Plante and Christian Humphreys - they're all small. They're all below average skaters by NHL standards. If things go well for those two, they're 50 point middle sixers? Maybe a bit more. Why not take a chance on someone that with an actual elite attribute? That's where I'm at right now.
If you put him a grouping with Max Plante and Christian Humphreys - they're all small. They're all below average skaters by NHL standards. If things go well for those two, they're 50 point middle sixers? Maybe a bit more. Why not take a chance on someone that with an actual elite attribute? That's where I'm at right now.
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Wilmer was draft eligible in 2021 (August birthday).
BondraTime
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They both finished atop the USHL
Wilmer spent his 17 year old year in the USNTDP.
They are both just as accomplished outside of the playoffs, with Swanson being a year earlier.
Regardless, the combine is put off by NHL central scouting, unless teams are requesting him, which absolutely could happen as it does every year, it’s unlikely they’ll be extending an invite to their 152nd ranked NA skater.
Pavel Buchnevich
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What you are leaving out is that Wilmer was the top scorer in the USHL the year after the first time he sat through not getting drafted. Swanson hasn’t went through the draft yet. Thats a big difference.
NHL Central Scouting makes the list, but they are only one scouting service. They aren’t some religious gospel. They can rate Swanson wherever they want, but they need to be fair to all prospects and not use their own biases to make the combine invite list. Not including a first year draft eligible who was the USHL POY and Playoff MVP is pretty indefensible.
BondraTime
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Central Scouting literally put on the combine, their ranking is a gigantic part of the invites.
They send the invites with the help of NHL teams, so you get guys like Jack Sparkes invited while being 120+ on the NHLCS rankings because teams wanted him there.
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Chuck Downie
Cheese and olive
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Pavel Buchnevich
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Wasn't invited to the combine.
This was the worry. Central Scouting are trying to put their foot on the scale. They are not remotely fair in their consultant work they do for the NHL. How you could not invite literally the best player in a league that will have 20-30 non-NTDP players? That's f***ing malpractice.
Central scouting are bums. Some of the worst lists out there year after year. If you are going to try to be the NHL's partner, you need to be fair to the players when you put on an event like this, regardless of what you personally think. The combine is not a draft. Central scouting is one company with a list. You must invite the consensus players to allow NHL teams to make decisions. Central scouting has become a bunch of activists.
Now the biggest question about his game he's not going to get a chance to answer. Real shame. He'll have to persevere some more.
This was the worry. Central Scouting are trying to put their foot on the scale. They are not remotely fair in their consultant work they do for the NHL. How you could not invite literally the best player in a league that will have 20-30 non-NTDP players? That's f***ing malpractice.
Central scouting are bums. Some of the worst lists out there year after year. If you are going to try to be the NHL's partner, you need to be fair to the players when you put on an event like this, regardless of what you personally think. The combine is not a draft. Central scouting is one company with a list. You must invite the consensus players to allow NHL teams to make decisions. Central scouting has become a bunch of activists.
Now the biggest question about his game he's not going to get a chance to answer. Real shame. He'll have to persevere some more.
BondraTime
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It’s not surprising at all, it should have been expected. He’s a guy ranked towards the end of the 6th/7th, and teams clearly never asked for him.
NHL CS puts together the event, NHL teams still get to invite any player they want. It seems no teams requested to have Swanson attend, which also isn’t surprising whatsoever.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
You have no clue where he's ranked. Speak for yourself. You have him ranked 6th/7th.
Central Scouting does not invite a consensus list. They invite their favorites. In doing so, they put their foot on the scale and discriminate against players like this who need an avenue like the NHL Draft Combine to prove their height.
And where's your proof NHL teams can invite any player they want? You are telling me NHL teams only have interest in seeing 100 or so players at the combine? Very hard to believe thats remotely true.
