F Justin Poirier - Baie-Comeau, QMJHL (2024, 156th, CAR)

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I think he’s a good skater and a decent playmaker too, although obviously more of a goal scorer.

The questions are size, defense, and can it translate to higher levels where there’s less space.
 
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I think he’s a good skater and a decent playmaker too, although obviously more of a goal scorer.

The questions are size, defense, and can it translate to higher levels where there’s less space.

I haven't seen that much of Poirier this season, and only a bit in the playoffs. But from the games I did see he seemed very tough to dislodge from around the net or when battling for the puck even at his diminutive stature, making plays through contact on a consistent basis.

So I'd say that in his case size concerns, while valid, don't hold as much sway as they would over, say, a Lane Hutson and his thin build.

Although CHL players are far from matching NHLers in size, speed, reach, and strength, I still think that Poirier could potentially find success at the highest level with a bit of tweaking to his game, and some quicker decisions with the puck on his stick given how he's seemingly relished and adaptated to a tighter-checking playoffs setting.

To add, in the couple games I saw Poirier was also really good at sneaking-in, finding open space in or near the slot, as well as lulling defenders into forgetting his presence and then coming in to the dangerous areas at the right moment to receive a pass and score. And that skillset relies mostly on timing and hockey sense, so that should translate to the NHL though adjustment will still be required of course.

I also saw Poirier score from distance quite well (his shot + release overall are borderline elite), on one-timers, and grinding it out on the corners before converging to the net and getting greasier goals. These different facets to Poirier's scoring game prove that he is a very versatile goalscorer, another translatable trait of his.

All of which to say that I'm quite high on Poirier and actually think he could be a star in the NHL if he continues improving his skating and balance, works on his play selection a bit, and commits himself even more to physical training so he handles contact better than he does now.

As far as draft positions go, I think I'd have Poirier as an early second-rounder right now but he's definitely rising in my rankings with his performance in the playoffs, so he might even make it to the tail-end of my first round before the draft happens.
 
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Logan Stankoven is 5'8'' and 171 pounds.

and his overall offensive game isn't as good as Stankoven's was going into the draft. Poirier probably goes late second or in the 3rd.

I'd like Montreal to get him there, but I'm not drafting him earlier than that.
 

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Was talking about that he's 5'8. That's always an issue in pro hockey. The average height for an NHL forward is around 6'1.
Most forwards at 5’8 or 5’9 with his skill aren’t 190. I have less concern about him than a 6’1 170 pound winger.

and his overall offensive game isn't as good as Stankoven's was going into the draft. Poirier probably goes late second or in the 3rd.

I'd like Montreal to get him there, but I'm not drafting him earlier than that.
Are we ignoring that Stankoven is 20 pounds lighter? How thick a player is will be more important than height. Can you win one on one battles.
 
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Most forwards at 5’8 or 5’9 with his skill aren’t 190. I have less concern about him than a 6’1 170 pound winger.


Are we ignoring that Stankoven is 20 pounds lighter? How thick a player is will be more important than height. Can you win one on one battles.
You make some good points. I am a fan of Poirier, but let's be real that the height, whether he has a strong build or not, is something that is not going to do him favors with NHL teams.
 

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You make some good points. I am a fan of Poirier, but let's be real that the height, whether he has a strong build or not, is something that is not going to do him favors with NHL teams.


I’m sure seeing DeBrincat and Stankoven have success in the league has teams more open to taking a swing. A team like Chicago with multiple 2nds should take a chance. It worked the first time lol
 

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I do like him more than I have other small players George has rooted for in the past. There is potential here to be a top-6 option, but it’s FAR from guarenteed. He is still a midget.
 

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and his overall offensive game isn't as good as Stankoven's was going into the draft. Poirier probably goes late second or in the 3rd.

This is fair
I'd like Montreal to get him there, but I'm not drafting him earlier than that.
Sure but he is the type of project that a team with multiple second rounders or 2 firsts and a second can take him in the second as the upside is there but so is the risk.
 

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I would take him with our 2nd 2nd rounder, but not in the first. IMO at worst he's Nigel Dawes.
He will be gone. I feel like he’s the next Cristal, Brindley, Stankoven where people will wonder how he didn’t go higher.

It’s not like he’s small. He’s 190 pounds and built like a running back.

I think small guys that are slow tend to suck at the NHL level but he’s got some wheels like his brother.

The rest of the guys in that range have middle six potential, we have lots of those guys coming. We need some guys who can turn out to be no question asked top 6ers.
 

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He will be gone. I feel like he’s the next Cristal, Brindley, Stankoven where people will wonder how he didn’t go higher.

It’s not like he’s small. He’s 190 pounds and built like a running back.

I think small guys that are slow tend to suck at the NHL level but he’s got some wheels like his brother.

The rest of the guys in that range have middle six potential, we have lots of those guys coming. We need some guys who can turn out to be no question asked top 6ers.

I would rather hope for one of Hage, Boisvert, Parascak, or Artamonov with that pick, but to each their own.
 
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Sidney Crosby did it. Mario Lemieux did it. Mike Bossy too. Michel Goulet did it, Pierre Turgeon and Dale Hawerchuk as well. This year, Justin Poirier, from the Baie-Comeau Drakkar, did it too. He scored over 50 goals by the age of 17.

It's incredible. This has happened to around thirty players in the long history of the league. Most of them were in the 70s or 80s. Since 2000, only one player had achieved this, twice at that: Sid the Kid.....
 

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That's impressive. Back then, offensive numbers were way higher.


as one of our top q experts, how do you like him compared to some recent q 1sts? i know you gave us lots of intel on bolduc. obviously poirier is smaller, but how do they otherwise compare in your eyes?
 
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as one of our top 1 expers, how do you like him compared to some recent q 1sts? i know you gave us lots of intel on bolduc. obviously poirier is smaller, but how do they otherwise compare in your eyes?

I haven't seen Poirier play as much as Bolduc. I think he is an even better goal scorer but for everything else Bolduc is better. I guess the NHL team that will draft Poirier will ask him the same thing the Blues asked Bolduc after his 55 goals season, show them he can also be a playmaker.
 
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18th goal.

But wtf has happened to Drakkar in the finals... yikes!
first 2 games, 0 goals and pummeled in game 3... down 3-zip

man... i hope Poirier gets at least 2 more goals, if the Drakkar can't claw back to the championship series
 

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Interesting piece on Justin Poirier, who didn't receive an invite for the Combine, after being ignored for the top prospect game, despite scoring 69 goals at 17 years old, despite being ranked 35th by Craig Button. He wants to use this as a motivation.

Honestly, I know he's small, but I'm having a hard time believing there are 100 better prospects than him. Teams are making the same mistakes they did for Stankoven, Hutson, Point, Dumais, etc.
 

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Interesting piece on Justin Poirier, who didn't receive an invite for the Combine, after being ignored for the top prospect game, despite scoring 69 goals at 17 years old, despite being ranked 35th by Craig Button. He wants to use this as a motivation.

Honestly, I know he's small, but I'm having a hard time believing there are 100 better prospects than him. Teams are making the same mistakes they did for Stankoven, Hutson, Point, Dumais, etc.
Wait, why the hell was he not invited to the combine?

That's ridiculous.
 

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