F Jamiro Reber - HV71, SHL (2024 undrafted)

[Hinterland]

Seems to have locked down the 2C spot with Husqvarna. Averaging 15mins but trending upwards. Played 20mins last game vs Malmö Redhawks. Has 3 points in 8 games. Promising start.

 

[Speyer]

Seems to have locked down the 2C spot with Husqvarna. Averaging 15mins but trending upwards. Played 20mins last game vs Malmö Redhawks. Has 3 points in 8 games. Promising start.

Was trying to imagine an NL team that would give a player like Reber 2C duties at 18 years old but couldn't come up with one. Sad state of affairs. It won't do any good to go into the discussion again why that is as we have done that on this board many times. The situation is what it is and hopefully some of the more promising players born in 08 and later will be taking notes.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Seems to have locked down the 2C spot with Husqvarna. Averaging 15mins but trending upwards. Played 20mins last game vs Malmö Redhawks. Has 3 points in 8 games. Promising start.

Nobody calls them Husqvarna lol. Just say Hv 71

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Nobody calls them Husqvarna lol. Just say Hv 71

I read that and was trying to think of whether there’s a new SHL team I’ve never heard of or if his team might play Allsvenskan because I don’t know the names of those teams as well.

 

[Hinterland]

I read that and was trying to think of whether there’s a new SHL team I’ve never heard of or if his team might play Allsvenskan because I don’t know the names of those teams as well.

Some users here obviously don't seem to like it but that's the name of the team. Husqvarna Vätterstad 1971. HV71 ist just the abbreviation. Even their home arena is called Husqvarna Garden. Pretty obvious where the money is coming from

Btw. Reber got his 4th point of the season earlier today. Played 19mins and assisted on a Brännström goal in a 3-4 home loss vs Rögle BK. Now has 4 points in 9 games. If he can keep it up he might have a chance to get drafted into the NHL. As mentioned before in this thread he was just barely draft eligible in 2024.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Some users here obviously don't seem to like it but that's the name of the team. Husqvarna Vätterstad 1971. HV71 ist just the abbreviation. Even their home arena is called Husqvarna Garden. Pretty obvious where the money is coming from

Btw. Reber got his 4th point of the season earlier today. Played 19mins and assisted on a Brännström goal in a 3-4 home loss vs Rögle BK. Now has 4 points in 9 games. If he can keep it up he might have a chance to get drafted into the NHL. As mentioned before in this thread he was just barely draft eligible in 2024.

Yeah but the thing is that everybody calls them Hv 71 including themselves

 

[alexander1980]

Yeah, I didn’t see this coming. Ten games into the season, and he’s averaging around 16 minutes per game with 1 goal and 4 assists.

Sure, it has helped that HV's depth at the center position is practically non-existent, but he has played great. However, Abbott (GM) is reportedly looking for reinforcement at center, and when (or if) that player arrives, it will be interesting to see if he can hold onto that 2C spot, which he holds onto firmly right now.

 

[HaNotsri]

Yeah, I didn’t see this coming. Ten games into the season, and he’s averaging around 16 minutes per game with 1 goal and 4 assists.

Sure, it has helped that HV's depth at the center position is practically non-existent, but he has played great. However, Abbott (GM) is reportedly looking for reinforcement at center, and when (or if) that player arrives, it will be interesting to see if he can hold onto that 2C spot, which he holds onto firmly right now.

He will likely keep the linemates
he brought back from the dead.

New center+Molgaard will likely get Lenc, Lyrenäs, Luoto and Träff as wingers.

 

[swedishhockeynerd]

Some users here obviously don't seem to like it but that's the name of the team. Husqvarna Vätterstad 1971. HV71 ist just the abbreviation. Even their home arena is called Husqvarna Garden. Pretty obvious where the money is coming from

Btw. Reber got his 4th point of the season earlier today. Played 19mins and assisted on a Brännström goal in a 3-4 home loss vs Rögle BK. Now has 4 points in 9 games. If he can keep it up he might have a chance to get drafted into the NHL. As mentioned before in this thread he was just barely draft eligible in 2024.

The name of the team is HV71. It was founded May 24th 1971 as Husqvarna/Vätterstads IF (no 71 included) and later that same year September 7th it was decided the official name would be HV71, an abbreviation and 71 for the year it was founded. Source: HV71 (if you want to you could translate this)

The reason for the arena being called Husqvarna Garden is that the naming rights sponsor is Husqvarna AB. You may know this company from their motorcycles (enduro/motocross, sold off to KTM in 2013), their chainsaws or their robot lawn mowers & garden tools (also under the brand name Gardena).

I think Reber has a slight chance of being drafted/signed if he continues to play very well in the SHL, but most likely he won't be. There are too many good talents a year younger.

 

[theslatcher]

The name of the team is HV71. It was founded May 24th 1971 as Husqvarna/Vätterstads IF (no 71 included) and later that same year September 7th it was decided the official name would be HV71, an abbreviation and 71 for the year it was founded. Source: HV71 (if you want to you could translate this)

The reason for the arena being called Husqvarna Garden is that the naming rights sponsor is Husqvarna AB. You may know this company from their motorcycles (enduro/motocross, sold off to KTM in 2013), their chainsaws or their robot lawn mowers & garden tools (also under the brand name Gardena).

I think Reber has a slight chance of being drafted/signed if he continues to play very well in the SHL, but most likely he won't be. There are too many good talents a year younger.

Not to mention they are a merger between Husqvarna IF & Vätterstads IK. Husqvarna (now named Huskvarna) was its own city municipality but from '71 it's a part of Jönköping. That's where the club's & company's names come from.

 

[Speyer]

I think Reber has a slight chance of being drafted/signed if he continues to play very well in the SHL, but most likely he won't be. There are too many good talents a year younger.

Not sure if I would agree with this. You usually dont get a player with Rebers Skill/Skating/IQ combo in rounds 6 and 7 of the draft. And even though I already wrote this a bunch of times in thread, Reber was born in early September. He still won't be much older than the late born first eligible players. So if he goes undrafted again, it will be exclusively because of size concerns.

 

[Hinterland]

Yeah, I didn’t see this coming. Ten games into the season, and he’s averaging around 16 minutes per game with 1 goal and 4 assists.

Sure, it has helped that HV's depth at the center position is practically non-existent, but he has played great. However, Abbott (GM) is reportedly looking for reinforcement at center, and when (or if) that player arrives, it will be interesting to see if he can hold onto that 2C spot, which he holds onto firmly right now.

Does Abbott know that Jonathan Ang is a Winger, not a Center?

 

[Speyer]

The disrespect this kid is getting from the scouting community is hard to fathom once again. He is leading the SHL in U19 scoring and the FC crowd still cant bring itself to even give him a minimal rating of W for the upcoming draft. Yet still other clearly inferior Swiss prospects (some of them overagers) got this rating. Its not like those have type of players (the likes of Dorthe etc.) have much of a shot of getting picked next summer either.

As for me I would much rahter gamble on Reber becoming a Connor Garland or at least a Pius Suter/ Kailer Yamamoto type player than take some grinder with next to zero skill in the seventh round. Hopefully the kid will take this as an extra motivation to improve even further in the coming months.

 

[Hinterland]

The disrespect this kid is getting from the scouting community is hard to fathom once again. He is leading the SHL in U19 scoring and the FC crowd still cant bring itself to even give him a minimal rating of W for the upcoming draft. Yet still other clearly inferior Swiss prospects (some of them overagers) got this rating. Its not like those have type of players (the likes of Dorthe etc.) have much of a shot of getting picked next summer either.

As for me I would much rahter gamble on Reber becoming a Connor Garland or at least a Pius Suter/ Kailer Yamamoto type player than take some grinder with next to zero skill in the seventh round. Hopefully the kid will take this as an extra motivation to improve even further in the coming months.

I agree Reber should be and should have been on those lists over other Swiss born kids but I don't think Jan Dorthe is the hill you wanna die on.


Dorthe has a promising development curve and even if he doesn't get drafted I could see him get a chance in the NHL down the road. Doesn't have Reber's ability to drive play but he's elite defensively. Always well positioned against the puck, so good at getting into passing and shooting lanes. Excellent stick work as well. Elite goal scorer, too. He's got the instinct, pucks seem to find him and he's got a ton of skill for a gritty shutdown Center. We saw him score very nice goals in pro hockey already and we know he mastered the Michigan as well.

Not to take anyway from Reber but Dorthe is promising in his own right and stylistically maybe better suited for the NHL. Had a very good start into this season as well. Has 4 NL points already despite very limited ice time and has 4 goals in as many Champions League games, including a hattrick vs Eisbären Berlin.


Very different kinda players but I actually like both of them. Certainly much more than most other Swiss forwards on those lists.

 

[Speyer]

I agree Reber should be and should have been on those lists over other Swiss born kids but I don't think Jan Dorthe is the hill you wanna die on.


Dorthe has a promising development curve and even if he doesn't get drafted I could see him get a chance in the NHL down the road. Doesn't have Reber's ability to drive play but he's elite defensively. Always well positioned against the puck, so good at getting into passing and shooting lanes. Excellent stick work as well. Elite goal scorer, too. He's got the instinct, pucks seem to find him and he's got a ton of skill for a gritty shutdown Center. We saw him score very nice goals in pro hockey already and we know he mastered the Michigan as well.

Not to take anyway from Reber but Dorthe is promising in his own right and stylistically maybe better suited for the NHL. Had a very good start into this season as well. Has 4 NL points already despite very limited ice time and has 4 goals in as many Champions League games, including a hattrick vs Eisbären Berlin.


Very different kinda players but I actually like both of them. Certainly much more than most other Swiss forwards on those lists.

I know you are high on Dorthe and I was just pointing him out as an example. I am not even arguing that he doesn't deserve to be on the list. But if he is on it then Reber, who is also one year younger than him, should be too. I was just generally pointing out the bias that the FC (and NHL central scouting) people seem to have against Reber. Last year even Gregory Weber was on this list as an overager who is just as undersized as Reber and not nearly as talented. And I am also wondering how much this has contributed to Reber not getting drafted this summer and how much it might taint his standing in the draft(s) to come.

 

[Hinterland]

Scored a PP goal and assist each in a 3-5 home loss vs Växjo Lakers today. Has 9 points in 15 games going into the two week international break.

 

[Speyer]

Scored a PP goal and assist each in 3-5 home loss vs Växjo Lakers today. Has 9 points in 15 games going into the two week international break.

Also his 9 points came in the last 10 games after a bit of an adjustment period in pro hockey. This puts him at number one in U19 SHL scoring and at number three in U20 SHL scoring behind 2023 first round picks Sandin-Pellikka and Edstrom. Not bad for an 18 year old manlet without any draft chances whatsoever.

 

[alexander1980]

He had a TOI of 17:35 yesterday and has been one of the few glimmers of hope in this year's HV71. However, when I look at the different scoring tables and compare the SHL with the NL, it’s easy to see a big difference in the number of juniors receiving ice time. This has probably been discussed a lot, but how is it that there are 74 U20 players in the SHL who have played at least one game, compared to only 26 in the NL? (For U19, it’s 35 vs. 10.)

 

[Hinterland]

He had a TOI of 17:35 yesterday and has been one of the few glimmers of hope in this year's HV71. However, when I look at the different scoring tables and compare the SHL with the NL, it’s easy to see a big difference in the number of juniors receiving ice time. This has probably been discussed a lot, but how is it that there are 74 U20 players in the SHL who have played at least one game, compared to only 26 in the NL? (For U19, it’s 35 vs. 10.)

I feel like this year there are quite a lot of young players getting quality ice time in the NL. That's not usually the case because most NL teams have almost unlimited money to spend. This is why they don't feel they have to invest in developing kids.

There are setbacks like Zug withdrawing their Academy team from the SL but I do feel like more teams are starting to invest in junior programs. Zug still has their OYM and is still top of the U20 elite league, therefore still has quite a few home grown kids in their lineup. Ambri is still running the Bellinzona Snakes and has a lot of young kids in their lineup as well. The SCL Tigers no longer support SL Bellinzona but they do a good job developing young players on their NL team. Biel and Fribourg have set up solid junior programs as well that are paying dividends. Kloten has been a good platform for kids since getting promoted again. The ZSC Lions have the longest tenured and only consistent SL farmteam with the GCK Lions...at team that has done a lot for Swiss ice hockey.

I feel like there are more decent Swiss born coaches (or foreign coaches dedicated to work in Switzerland) now than in recent past. Coaching is still a problem but there are many good coaches in important positions now. Not so much with the SIHF but at club level at the very least.

But yeah. There's no doubt that Sweden is the gold standard in Europe in terms of player development. The J20 league is by far the best junior league in Europe, and, in my view, the 2nd best junior league world wide right behind CHL leagues. This is partly because Sweden just has the by far best level of coaching but I think it's also a result of most SHL clubs having strictly limited budgets. They're committed to player development knowing they can't spend endless money on salaries or transfer fees. I'd argue that the Swedish federation is much more professional and much more serious about player development than the Swiss federation, too.

 

[Eye of Ra]

where is that belarussian poster who said Reber had no chance of getting drafted`?