F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

17 goals + 24 assists for 41 pts in 41 games while getting little PP time is not a good season?

For a first round pick forward? Not particularly. Look what his former NTDP teammates like Gauthier and McGroarty did.

 

[Mrfenn92]

For a first round pick forward? Not particularly. Look what his former NTDP teammates like Gauthier and McGroarty did.

One who missed the majority of his freshman year? And also didn’t center brindley or McGroarty. He was really good last year.

 

[Mjul Qvist]

For a first round pick forward? Not particularly. Look what his former NTDP teammates like Gauthier and McGroarty did.

Well everyone who has watched him closely knows that he raised his game to another level after U20´s. It is just not the points but the way he played two way and so on..

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Well everyone who has watched him closely knows that he raised his game to another level after U20´s. It is just not the points but the way he played two way and so on..

Same exact PPG before and after the World Juniors.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

Same exact PPG before and after the World Juniors.

I think you're missing the second part of his sentence. Nazar was solid all over the ice, not just on the score sheet.

Anyway, to get this back on track, it does seem like Demidov, or a player with a high offensive upside is exactly what the Hawks need. They have plenty of forwards that project to be bottom 6 forwards but need high-end talent.

 

[HawksDub89]

One who missed the majority of his freshman year? And also didn’t center brindley or McGroarty. He was really good last year.

You can always identify the “point watchers” and those who actually watched the games.

He had a really solid year considering how he was used.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

You can always identify the “point watchers” and those who actually watched the games.

He had a really solid year considering how he was used.

So if you cite the data that very obviously conflicts with what you want to be true yet isn’t that means you don’t watch the games?

He’s a 5’10, one-way forward. He’s going to either succeed or not based on his scoring.

 

[HawksDub89]

So if you cite the data that very obviously conflicts with what you want to be true yet isn’t that means you don’t watch the games?

He’s a 5’10, one-way forward. He’s going to either succeed or not based on his scoring.

You cite the data when it’s convenient for your narrative.

It’s obvious you either didn’t watch or don’t know what you’re watching.

You’re certainly entitled to your “opinion”

 

[Mrfenn92]

Nazar is a two way forward for the guy who doesn’t watch fyi

 

[barriers]

Please continue your Nazar argument elsewhere

Might I suggest his own thread?

F Frank Nazar - Michigan Wolverines, NCAA (2022, 13th, CHI)

He's talked about as one of the best Americans in the 2004 age group. I believe he's a right-winger. Watching the highlights, dynamic speed and 1v1 skill to beat players. He's 5'11 and a RHS. Frank Nazar at eliteprospects.com

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

You cite the data when it’s convenient for your narrative.

It’s obvious you either didn’t watch or don’t know what you’re watching.

You’re certainly entitled to your “opinion”

What’s my narrative? I have nothing for or against Nazar. Not a Hawks fan. Not a fan of rival teams. Not a Michigan fan. Not a fan of rival teams.

I’m calling it as I see it.

 

[HawksDub89]

Nazar is a two way forward for the guy who doesn’t watch fyi

Yeah I was gonna say lol. He’s very responsible in his own end.

Please continue your Nazar argument elsewhere

Might I suggest his own thread?

F Frank Nazar - Michigan Wolverines, NCAA (2022, 13th, CHI)

He's talked about as one of the best Americans in the 2004 age group. I believe he's a right-winger. Watching the highlights, dynamic speed and 1v1 skill to beat players. He's 5'11 and a RHS. Frank Nazar at eliteprospects.com

forums.hfboards.com

My bad

 

[kp61c]

It was mentioned in a recent The Athletic article article that he can't be loaned :

that's unfortunate for demidov. michael oliver rotenberg prefers grinders and washed-up nhlers to actual skill. demidov will play 5 min a game next season in the best case scenario and that will stunt his development. chicago should take this into account when they decide not to draft demidov. huge red flag.

 

[Kshahdoo]

that's unfortunate for demidov. michael oliver rotenberg prefers grinders and washed-up nhlers to actual skill. demidov will play 5 min a game next season in the best case scenario and that will stunt his development. chicago should take this into account when they decide not to draft demidov. huge red flag.

He can play in the VHL. Marchenko played in the VHL in his last season in Russia and then came to Columbus and scored 20 goals...

 

[MichaelFarrell]

Nazar had a good season

You’re missing his point. He didn’t have a season that was good enough to where you don’t draft Demidov.

Demidov is in a completely different class than Nazar.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Ivan is a good young player

 

[Kshahdoo]

So when is that Milstein's prospect showcase going to happen?

 

[Kevin Musto]

So when is that Milstein's prospect showcase going to happen?

June 18-23

 

[Kshahdoo]

June 18-23

Cool, thanks.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

that's unfortunate for demidov. michael oliver rotenberg prefers grinders and washed-up nhlers to actual skill. demidov will play 5 min a game next season in the best case scenario and that will stunt his development. chicago should take this into account when they decide not to draft demidov. huge red flag.

I believe the restriction is he can't be loaned to another KHL team - like Michkov was loaned from SKA to Sochi. The only KHL team Demidov can play for next season is SKA. However, he can be "loaned" to a SKA junior team like he was this past season when he played in the MHL for SKA-1946.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I believe the restriction is he can't be loaned to another KHL team - like Michkov was loaned from SKA to Sochi. The only KHL team Demidov can play for next season is SKA. However, he can be "loaned" to a SKA junior team like he was this past season when he played in the MHL for SKA-1946.

I'm pretty sure he won't play in MHL, but he can play for SKA-Neva in VHL, like Marchenko did in his last season in Russia.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

I'm pretty sure he won't play in MHL, but he can play for SKA-Neva in VHL, like Marchenko did in his last season in Russia.

OK. Not KHL quality competition but at least against older players.

 

[montreal]

I'm pretty sure he won't play in MHL, but he can play for SKA-Neva in VHL, like Marchenko did in his last season in Russia.

I assumed he was going to be in the VHL next season with his brother, who also has 1 year left on his deal and is of course undrafted so I wonder if the team that's lucky enough to get Demidov would opt to also use a late round pick on his brother.

 

[spfan]

It was sounding more like Demidov was solidifying himself as the obvious #2 pick in the draft(in terms of what realistically happens). But Levshunov going #2 is picking up more steam. And now there's buzz about Demidov might slide until 5 or later now.

Several teams will be making a mistake then. He's absolutely the 2nd best player in the draft.

 

[Mrfenn92]

We still have milsteins camp next week