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F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL) Part 2

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Pavel Buchnevich said:
They have the best young core in hockey.
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...I...agree with you... :amazed:

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Pavel Buchnevich said:
They're very good also, but I think Hutson+Demidov+Slafkovsky+Fowler is better than Dickinson+Celebrini+Smith+Askarov.

But yeah, it's close.
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If you expand it a little more to add Hage for Montreal and Musty, Chernyshov, and Wallenius, then I think I'd prefer San Jose. That all depends though, on Reinbacher. He's really the X factor. Who knows what he's going to amount to? I don't recall a prospect that has had so many mixed opinions. Relatively late riser in his draft year to potentially be a reach, has an underwhelming D+1 year, though on a porous team, and potentially loses his entire draft +2 year. Such a great draft to potentially punt on a top 5 pick. Add Leonard/Dvorsky/Benson to that group? (even if you weren't going to take Michkov)

Anyway, SJ is also going to add one of the top 4 picks this year to that list. I love the team, but I'd trade our young* core for theirs any day.

Celebrini > Demidov (sorry, but that kid is a pure stud. I'll say when all is said and done, better than Bedard).
Dickinson < Hutson
Smith > Slafkovsky
Askarov > Fowler
Musty > Hage
Reinbacher > Chernyshov
SJ '25 1st >> Mtl '25 1st

Who knows how it will look in 3 years though??

* I don't include Suzuki or Caufied in that group. For the purpose of the conversation, just '22 picks on

* From what I've read Tier 1 is 1-4, Tier 2 is 4-8 and then a huge drop off after that. I don't think there is a chance we finish lower than 4th, though realistically I think the worst we'll get, subject to the lottery, is 6th if Seattle can string something together.
 
Ford Prefect said:
If you expand it a little more to add Hage for Montreal and Musty, Chernyshov, and Wallenius, then I think I'd prefer San Jose. That all depends though, on Reinbacher. He's really the X factor. Who knows what he's going to amount to? I don't recall a prospect that has had so many mixed opinions. Relatively late riser in his draft year to potentially be a reach, has an underwhelming D+1 year, though on a porous team, and potentially loses his entire draft +2 year. Such a great draft to potentially punt on a top 5 pick. Add Leonard/Dvorsky/Benson to that group? (even if you weren't going to take Michkov)

Anyway, SJ is also going to add one of the top 4 picks this year to that list. I love the team, but I'd trade our young* core for theirs any day.

Celebrini > Demidov (sorry, but that kid is a pure stud. I'll say when all is said and done, better than Bedard).
Dickinson < Hutson
Smith > Slafkovsky
Askarov > Fowler
Musty > Hage
Reinbacher > Chernyshov
SJ '25 1st >> Mtl '25 1st

Who knows how it will look in 3 years though??

* I don't include Suzuki or Caufied in that group. For the purpose of the conversation, just '22 picks on

* From what I've read Tier 1 is 1-4, Tier 2 is 4-8 and then a huge drop off after that. I don't think there is a chance we finish lower than 4th, though realistically I think the worst we'll get, subject to the lottery, is 6th if Seattle can string something together.
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The reason I'd take Montreal is that I believe there's a huge gap between Hutson and Dickinson (way bigger than the gap anywhere else). I'm also not sure about Smith being better than Slafkovsky. I think it's the other way around, as much as I root for Smith because he's an American player. Slafkovsky might be looked at differently if he wasn't having an average season. He was still a 1OA and still looking like a top 3-4 player from that draft.

All the other comparisons for me when I talk about core (the four for each I named) are smaller than I think the gap between Hutson and Dickinson is. I would probably also give Montreal Slafkovsky over Smith, as I said. I think Dickinson is a little overrated because he plays on the best team in junior hockey and he's padding his totals for them. His defending has not impressed me as much as it did in the past (where I thought he would be good defensively and questioned his offense). I think he'll be a solid NHL defenseman, but I don't think he's all of a sudden comparable to like Demidov and a future 1D due to his point totals this year. I think where he got drafted is about where he belongs (maybe 2-3 spots higher) for 2024. And as I think most acknowledge, Hutson looks like the best player in 2022 right now.
 
Ford Prefect said:
If you expand it a little more to add Hage for Montreal and Musty, Chernyshov, and Wallenius, then I think I'd prefer San Jose. That all depends though, on Reinbacher. He's really the X factor. Who knows what he's going to amount to? I don't recall a prospect that has had so many mixed opinions. Relatively late riser in his draft year to potentially be a reach, has an underwhelming D+1 year, though on a porous team, and potentially loses his entire draft +2 year. Such a great draft to potentially punt on a top 5 pick. Add Leonard/Dvorsky/Benson to that group? (even if you weren't going to take Michkov)

Anyway, SJ is also going to add one of the top 4 picks this year to that list. I love the team, but I'd trade our young* core for theirs any day.

Celebrini > Demidov (sorry, but that kid is a pure stud. I'll say when all is said and done, better than Bedard).
Dickinson < Hutson
Smith > Slafkovsky
Askarov > Fowler
Musty > Hage
Reinbacher > Chernyshov
SJ '25 1st >> Mtl '25 1st

Who knows how it will look in 3 years though??

* I don't include Suzuki or Caufied in that group. For the purpose of the conversation, just '22 picks on

* From what I've read Tier 1 is 1-4, Tier 2 is 4-8 and then a huge drop off after that. I don't think there is a chance we finish lower than 4th, though realistically I think the worst we'll get, subject to the lottery, is 6th if Seattle can string something together.
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Reinbacher looked pretty good in the 11 games he played in the AHL last season.

Of course his knee injury at the start of the season wasn’t ideal but speaking about that, we just had the news that he’s supposed to be back at worse next week and could be dressed this weekend.
 
Think it depends how you define "young"... if you're talking like U22 then yeah Montreal is probably 1-3. Something like U26, then I think a lot of other teams look better. I'd take J. Hughes/ Hischier/L. Hughes/ Mercer/SIlayev over MTL's group.
 
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