F Ivan Demidov (2024, 5th, MTL) Part 2
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This kid just oozes talent. Montreal is so lucky he fell, some teams are going to regret that.
SannywithoutCompy
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Great game from him last night, clearly adjusting to the speed of the game pretty quickly. Wish we could get him away from Newhook. He's a good opportunist and can make the occasional nice individual play but he doesn't really build chemistry with anyone since he doesn't have great hockey sense or vision.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Don’t agree. The worst thing the Habs could do is to shortcut their rebuild and bring in some non needle mover that hurts their salary cap. Demidov can develop at his own pace and given the time and patience needed to turn into a superstar.
They need to let their guys develop. If that means they are no better next season, so be it. They weren’t expected to make the playoffs this year. They need to let things play itself out. You’d hope that with time Dach can stay healthy and players like Hage, Kapanen, Roy, and Beck can provide some depth in the lineup that is currently lacking.
Habs team needs lots of work. Some holes can be filled internally but some need to be filled externally. And these moves will happen over the course of years
If they can find a good 2 c thru trade or fa they have to jump on it
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Yep. Montreal is at a bit of a crossroads this off-season where they can either use 2 mid 1sts in a less than mediocre draft on character guys or a reach on a RD like Fiddler or they can trade them in a package for a 2C to play with Demidov. I'd opt for the 2C route personally.
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Great to see somebody outside the fanatic montreal fanbase that see it clearly. Montreal does not need all the pieces next year, they are not yet close to be contender. The most important is players development and patience. They did very well the past 3 season to stay patient and not spending on acquiring new players. They need to continue doing that. When they are ready to challenge it will be apparent and obvious. For now, we can still see the flaws and it's all good.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I hope Jeff Gorton is finally given the chance to let it play out and let his rebuild marinate without having his owner axe him at the first sign of some adversity. I hope Molson isn’t as reactionary as Dolan was because you see what can happen when things have to be sped up, and then you get a Chris Drury feeling like he has been installed with a mandate to be all in and make short term panic moves that shortcut a rebuild and don’t let the kids properly develop.
All I’m saying is if the chance to add a rhd or 2c is there you take it this offseason. Championship teams are built slowly through unit draft, ufa, and trades. These spots can’t all be filled externally in one offseason/tdl where its decided it’s “time”
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When it's time you would have top depth everywhere and the players you will need to pick up will be to elevate some part of your team that you lack.
Based on the Habs timeline, Reinbacher will have a couple NHL season under his belt, Guhle, Hutson too. Hage, Xhekaj, Beck (or whoever that push for a spot) would replace the like of Dvorak, Gallagher and Anderson. The players we draft this summer will probably be rookie or just starting their pro career. Of course if you can get a key player you do it but don't force it. If there is nobody just wait it out. Some other teams will start a rebuild at some point. The key is patience, manage the cap and let the younger players develop and play.
I think it's a mix. Habs accumulated a bunch of depth and have inside knowledge on who they think is the best/ pan out. Not using the depth to help the roster is potentially wasting NHL development for guys like Demidov and Hutson. They need help and insulation to develop in a good environment. This roster managed to make playoffs with no help, give them some help as a reward and see if they can take next step. IMO that's not a shortcut but a step forward. Not talking trading everything but they have extra 1st, 2nd this year. Maybe they trade both 1sts for help. Maybe 1st and 2nd. It's not hurting rebuild.
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I was hoping that Anaheim could get him to pair with Carlsson. Seeing Demidov in Montreal has the potential to be very special though so as a neutral I still like the outcome.
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Exactly.
Might it be an older UFA to play second fiddle to Suzuki, while waiting for the younger guys to develop (those already drafted and those that will be drafted), I think it's time for Hughes to help them out with something more tangible than a half broken Patty Laine.
Habs have the never say die attitude, some younger talent and the "playing it the right way" style of play, but they still lack the offensive talent depth.
Some older guy that still produce, who's gonna accept a shorter contract, might do the job.
I know Duchene is supposed to wanna stay in Dallas, but he'd be a perfect target.
Don't be such a fracking troll. He took a while because of the coach he had, pure and simple. I don't imagine you're going to ride Hutson because he didn't get PP time until December?
Anardil
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I think that eventually, he will replace one of Caufield or Slaf on the 1st. He is just too talented to stay on a 2nd line.
