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Then he can sign with us near the end of the season, perform well and have the inside track at a top 9 spot next year.
Prospect Info: (F) Frank Nazar - 2022 NHL Draft, 13th Overall
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Then he can sign with us near the end of the season, perform well and have the inside track at a top 9 spot next year.
TLEH
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I imagine that McGroarty, Casey, and Brindley all sign, so it makes the decision for Nazar all that much easier.
I REALLY wish Brindley would have fell one more pick. I don't know if Kyle would have taken him, but him and Nazar play so well together.
Kevin Musto
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They wouldn't have picked Brindley at #34.
It leaked before the draft began that the organization was REALLY high on Gajan.
I remember typing up the Gajan thread here before the pick was in, ready to post, because I knew that's knew who they were taking.
CallMeShaft
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Gonna be fun next year when, on the powerplay, Nazar's at the left circle, Bedard at the right, and Celebrini is off to the side of the goalie (Toews' old role).
Cross seem passes a plenty for Nazar and Bedard.
Cross seem passes a plenty for Nazar and Bedard.
TLEH
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Celebrini Nazar Bedard
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Bedard loves his strong side and Celebrini likes the one timer.. gonna guess we go with Bedard on his preferred side lol.
dj Mahoney
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Nice PP , but net front might be someone out of left field like Milton Oscarson , Riku Tohila , Taige Harding , Gavin Hayes or Samuel Savoie .
TLEH
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Maybe Hayes, but I would imagine none of those guys listed make the league. The most likely net front guy we have on the PP right now is Colton Dach.
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ChiHawks10
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I'd say he looks like he'll be a C. Although if the Hawks end up landing Celebrini, by some stroke of luck, someone likely needs to be moved to W. Nazar would probably be the odd man out in that scenario, IMO. Don't think you'd want Nazar's talents being utilized as a 3C. And I highly doubt you'd move one of Bedard or Celebrini to W.
Bedard should move to wing if we get Celebrini.. Nazar coukd cebter the 2nd line..
Bedard is the worst of 3 defensively and on draws..
Brdard isctge worst of the3 attacking right down the middle of the ice.
Bedard is Not having an easy time entering thevo-zone right up the middle.. Too many NHL team defenseman and checkers at the line are veering him off or taking puck off him middle rushes. I think the far greater speed of Celebrini and Nazarwould back them off instead of being ablevro stop middle rushes at the line.
Bedard is not that fast compared to Nazar and Celebrini.
But Nazar has not proven hehas a special shot or maybe any NJL finishiing shot...And if middle rush does not beat a goalie from a shot or deke he subsequently makes after entering o-zone ,it coukd lead to gettibg caught deep and watching transition the other way...not worried if that happens on a Celebrini middle rush because he always hustles and back-checks..
Anyway thinking I had to move 1 to winger ot woukd be Bedard.
Bedard is the worst of 3 defensively and on draws..
Brdard isctge worst of the3 attacking right down the middle of the ice.
Bedard is Not having an easy time entering thevo-zone right up the middle.. Too many NHL team defenseman and checkers at the line are veering him off or taking puck off him middle rushes. I think the far greater speed of Celebrini and Nazarwould back them off instead of being ablevro stop middle rushes at the line.
Bedard is not that fast compared to Nazar and Celebrini.
But Nazar has not proven hehas a special shot or maybe any NJL finishiing shot...And if middle rush does not beat a goalie from a shot or deke he subsequently makes after entering o-zone ,it coukd lead to gettibg caught deep and watching transition the other way...not worried if that happens on a Celebrini middle rush because he always hustles and back-checks..
Anyway thinking I had to move 1 to winger ot woukd be Bedard.
CallMeShaft
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Bedard is having a hard time moving the puck up the middle? News to me, but I trust the source; when has Fiddy ever been wrong???
We all knowxwe CANNOT have both 1C and 2C be do small..istgerexNy Staley Cup champion that everin the last 30 years had 1C anda 3C who were 5'9 to 5'10 ONLy?
Not hoonaxwork in thecNHL...so somebody gotta move to wing..Bedard has his exceptional shot ..andchisxvision/anticipation ..goodvpaser but deficient in checking..andvin .strength battles...canno ccreen on point shots being that height deprived..and so forth...notvthe greatest defender
.back-checking etc.
Stuff you also need top 2clinecCebtersctobdo...andvif course hecstinksvon draws.
So why Not move hom to wing when the better all roubd cebtersxarrive who can fo his deficiencies better.He still can shoot from the wibg..right?
Not hoonaxwork in thecNHL...so somebody gotta move to wing..Bedard has his exceptional shot ..andchisxvision/anticipation ..goodvpaser but deficient in checking..andvin .strength battles...canno ccreen on point shots being that height deprived..and so forth...notvthe greatest defender
.back-checking etc.
Stuff you also need top 2clinecCebtersctobdo...andvif course hecstinksvon draws.
So why Not move hom to wing when the better all roubd cebtersxarrive who can fo his deficiencies better.He still can shoot from the wibg..right?
WarriorofTime
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Bedard is not playing wing. Give it up. You don’t put a generational Canadian kid at wing. They’d view it as a demotion.
Castle8130
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I've never seen such a unique use of the English language. It is rewarding deciphering your posts.
I do agree with the notion that both Bedard and Nazar cannot be centers for us in the NHL. It is a valid point that there has never been a cup winning team with 2 sub 5'10" centers in the top 9.
statswatcher
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we've been down this road before. top two centers for the 2019-20 lighting were point, 5'11" and gourde, 5'9". so no, we do not all know that we CANNOT have centers at 5'9" and 5'10" in the top six, unless someone is going to quibble with me about an inch of shoulder height.
edit: should have said 2020-21 playoffs. had the year wrong and wasn't specific enough.
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Not to quabble but Cirelli's always been the 2C in Tampa
Nazar's an enigma to me. He looked like the next coming of Brayden Point during the summer, he's looked like more of role player/high energy type with some skill in college and now at the WJC he seems almost like a more passive high skill playmaker who has limited puck touches and has picked up 6 of his 8 points in 10 goal blowouts (in the games that I've seen). I feel like his hip/groin is playing a role in his inconsistency and if he can reach that level he was at last summer he can absolutely be 2C regardless of his height. Otherwise I think u plug him on Bedard's wing.
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If Gourde was top 2 Center with just 30 points and a-5 that SHORTENED season and Cirelli was a 3C with 44 points and a +28..then sure we can have a 5'9 2C if the 3C outperforms him..I cannot recall if they y bumped up Cirelli to 2C at sone point and used Gourde in another position..but it certainly is NOT the way most teams would go...and they did not go through full82 game grind..only66 or70GPnby tgese okayers..
I just do not think normally teams go with 2 smalk centers.in top 2 lines.
I just do not think normally teams go with 2 smalk centers.in top 2 lines.
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What I don't get is the two centers under 5'10 thing.
If youre looking at strictly size, it's actually better if you separate them coz then you can flank them with bigger wings on both sides. Have them on the same line, and that's one very small line instead of two average sized lines.
It doesn't matter though. Both play bigger than their size, so it's too simplistic of an argument.
If youre looking at strictly size, it's actually better if you separate them coz then you can flank them with bigger wings on both sides. Have them on the same line, and that's one very small line instead of two average sized lines.
It doesn't matter though. Both play bigger than their size, so it's too simplistic of an argument.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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TLEH
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Not to call you out specifically but Ive watched every minute of the WJC for the Americans and I’m not sure how you could come away with he had limited puck touches and passive high skill. If anything he is the opposite. Has the puck on his stick a lot and is always engaged.
He plays center, works hard in the corners, hits, slashes, whacks. Plays PK1. Net front and bumper on the PP. He plays a bit like a smaller Kesler when he is on. His game against Latvia was a bit dull, but he was the highest game scored player on the team through every game but that one.
