F Cole Caufield (2019, 15th, MTL) Part 5
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He is going to be a very good fantasy goal scorer but not as good real NHL player, kinda like Johnny hockey.
still a very useful piece given the structure and makeup of the Habs.
still a very useful piece given the structure and makeup of the Habs.
Every team would take one of the best pure goal scorers in the world, which he could very easily become. That is a "good real NHL player".
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wow... who are you talking about exactly, Ovechkin?
Well he has a way to go before he becomes one of the best pure goal scorers in the world as he has 4 goals in 10 regular season games and 4 more in 16 playoff games.
Also that will be his bread and butter as he will never play a heavy game or provide above average 2 way play.
Like I said upthread the hype train is way overboard here.
What can Montreal do to give him more and better opportunities to use his shot?
His playmaking and speed are miles better than I thought it would be in the NHL, but his shooting hasn't come alive which is a bit surprising given that's what he's been known for.
Normally I find that rookie shooters have the 'unknown' advantage on veteran goalies too so if there was ever a time to maximize him, this would be it. My hunch is that he'd really be a killer if Montreal's defense was a bit more active and offensively creative/skilled.
His playmaking and speed are miles better than I thought it would be in the NHL, but his shooting hasn't come alive which is a bit surprising given that's what he's been known for.
Normally I find that rookie shooters have the 'unknown' advantage on veteran goalies too so if there was ever a time to maximize him, this would be it. My hunch is that he'd really be a killer if Montreal's defense was a bit more active and offensively creative/skilled.
koyvoo
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Well, I have I far more realistic outlook on prospects than most of HF in terms of both expectations and value. As far as I’m concerned, for an undersized 20 year old coming into a foreign system in the heat of the playoffs, he’s easily far exceeded expectations I would have put on him in this time frame.
Kcb12345
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He's going to be almost identical to DeBrincat imo. That's not a bad player to have on your team
It is absolutely ridicules the hype hab fans are spewing.
Four goals in 16 games makes him #1 in a redraft? Jesus and people wonder why hab fans get laughed at. Phoeling, Brooks, remember the insane threads about them? Hab fans never learn.
No that’s not bad but it’s also not the type of player that is going to lead a team to success, more of a complimentary piece.
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While probably true, anyone who has 40g potential can 'carry' a team in a series.
For example, Holtz for NJ is one of the best shooting prospects weve ever had, yet I wouldnt call him an 'elite' prospect. Hes high end, but he also needs to be set up to truly utilize his shot (like most snipers; the guys who can do it themselves end up legends or near that).
So if Cole is scoring 34-40+ goals a seasons, Id say hes doing about as much as he can as a sniper. He probably 'carries' one series in a Cup run
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I disagree about the 1st overall talk with Caufield but the 2019 draft so far has no clear stand out. As of now, it's still up in the air about who can turn into the best player from that draft.
Also, Caufield should never be mentioned in the same sentences of Brook or Poehling. They are not in the same stratosphere in term of talent and potential.
Actually the name that keep popping in my head is PK Subban. Not that they are similar but more on the divergence between the hype of habs fans and other fans. Subban looked amazing at the WJC and the OHL and had plenty of hype but most other fans claimed he was a defensive liability and a rover that would never make it to the NHL. Caufield has the same poeple claiming that Cole is a liability defensively and that he is uni dimensional player. That is very wrong, altough he is making rookie mistake it is no where to the level of the haters claim in to be, 2nd, most of his scoring chances are created by himself. He is not a product of another player. He is figuring out the NHL speed and he is already adjusting to it. His talent is apparent and he is getting better every game.
I disagree with the assumption that Habs overrate him because of his 4 goals in 16 games or whatever. He could have easily scored double more and he is proving that it is sustainable since every game is providing nice scoring chances. He is still a kid and nobody even his biggest fans expected him to become one of the main catalyst offensively to a stanley cup final run. He is legit.
My take on him, haters gonna hate, he will continue to develop and become better until the rest of the NHL realize the hype is for real.
For the record, I have watched the habs since the 1990's and I don't remember a prospect that talented offensively at such a young age. He is a way better skater than anticipated and he is so smooth with the puck on his stick. The best comparable I have is Mats Naslund.
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The easily could have scored double the 4 goals in the regular season doesn’t wash at all.
He scored at a 13% rate and then at a 9% rate in the playoffs both are above average.
Even elite snipers don’t score at 25% in the regular season.
Fans always say this about players, “man he could have scored X numbers of goals tonight” The thing is that even good to very good to elite players missed more than they score.
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woah buddy we all love Caufield here but relax
JeffreyLFC
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And that is wrong. You watch the stats not the game, many time he hit the post or got denied a perfect shot. Not to mention 9% is extremely low btw. A 15%/18% is clearly more aligned with his true number.
haha yeah, because it's not happening as we speak with less than 30 NHL game under his belt at 20 year old. such a bad take. lmao
I didn’t just mean for right now but in the future as well.
Like I said before he is a goal scoring version of JOhnny Hockey, which isn’t a bad thing but it’s not the type of guy to build a team around he is more of a complimentary piece.
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He'll get his 30 goal seasons, and maybe even 40 one day.
But too weak, too soft like that American player in Calgary. That Hockey player drive is missing.
Good post above.
But too weak, too soft like that American player in Calgary. That Hockey player drive is missing.
Good post above.
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Caufield is good, but man, if he isn’t scoring, he’s useless out there.
Habs down 3-0, no goals for Caufield, time to bash the 20 year old. Lol
JeffreyLFC
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Pretty much.
The fact he is playing on a Stanley Cup finalist is quite an achievement. I swear other posters here are just here to bash him.
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How so? His awareness away from the puck is excellent in all 3 zones, and his playmaking abilities are extremely underrated. He’s been able to break up plays in the D zone and turn them into scoring chances immediately on multiple occasions. Sometimes he tries to force a play that isn’t there, and that’s bitten him and the team a couple of times in the Tampa series. You play a kid with 10 NHL regular season games under his belt in the Stanley Cup Finals, you have to live with mistakes that come with that.
I get that you’re a salty Leafs fan, but take off your homer glasses for a second. Caufield’s game has more to it than just scoring goals. He’s just a rookie that makes rookie mistakes.
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We have a lot of fans, of course, some of us overrate our prospects, every fan base does. But, just like the Toronto, I understand the volume makes it annoying.
It's not all said and done for Poehling and Brooks tho. Both have progressed really well this year!
