F Cayden Lindstrom - Medicine Hat Tigers, WHL (2024, 4th, CBJ)

staveNsteel

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If I were Columbus I would rather not give this guy a contract and opt for the compensation 2nd round draft pick

Or, you give the kid time to heal and develop.. this thread is full of such terrible takes, speculation, and uninformed opinions.

The CBJ medical staff/team are going to do everything to ensure that their investment is well taken care of. If he plays or doesn't play the rest of this season shouldn't be an issue at all, moreso how has he healed and when should he start training with off-ice and on-ice activities.
 

Peasy

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And yet someone who does write about hockey has so that means he either has a scoop or he can be savaged later. Trying to use follower count as justification that something is or is not true is a logical fallacy.
The guys not a beat reporter or anything. He just writes on the internet about an NHL team but believe whoever you want I guess.

Dont find it weird CBJ are only telling this dude this news directly lol? He doesnt even write about em.
 

Gregor Samsa

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Have to feel bad for him and CLB but there’s a risk with every high draft pick. Injuries have to be accounted for but you don’t want to be the team that passes on a high end talent because of injury concerns while taking a lesser talent, and watching that injured player get healthy and have a great career. At some point, injuries or not, you have to take a swing on certain players. Was 4th overall the spot to take a shot on a player? Idk and this risk will unfairly be judged with hindsight in future
 
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Dumais

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I'm going to laugh my ass off if this kid hits 2 years from now.

I'll wait till the kid does come back and I can watch him play before determining how good/bad he is. And I'll watch him again when he gets to the AHL. Until then I'll wait with no expectations but lots of hope.
 

Yasuo

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Have to feel bad for him and CLB but there’s a risk with every high draft pick. Injuries have to be accounted for but you don’t want to be the team that passes on a high end talent because of injury concerns while taking a lesser talent, and watching that injured player get healthy and have a great career. At some point, injuries or not, you have to take a swing on certain players. Was 4th overall the spot to take a shot on a player? Idk and this risk will unfairly be judged with hindsight in future
With Demidov still on the board i'd say it was not a well calculated risk imo
 
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Or, you give the kid time to heal and develop.. this thread is full of such terrible takes, speculation, and uninformed opinions.

The CBJ medical staff/team are going to do everything to ensure that their investment is well taken care of. If he plays or doesn't play the rest of this season shouldn't be an issue at all, moreso how has he healed and when should he start training with off-ice and on-ice activities.
An early second round pick is also good value. If you look at the guy's injury list I'd go with compensation pick.
 

staveNsteel

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An early second round pick is also good value. If you look at the guy's injury list I'd go with compensation pick.
So you think that a multimillion dollar organization equipped with far more medical information, talks with coaches, doctors and the player himself didn't do their due diligence before drafting him? You think that a team ready to invest millions into a 4oa chose him, and months later would take even the 33rd oa because of a situation they knew was coming?!

Yea, I'll trust the guys with the chart over the opinion of the guy on the keyboard here!
 

GaboriklessWild

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So you think that a multimillion dollar organization equipped with far more medical information, talks with coaches, doctors and the player himself didn't do their due diligence before drafting him? You think that a team ready to invest millions into a 4oa chose him, and months later would take even the 33rd oa because of a situation they knew was coming?!

Yea, I'll trust the guys with the chart over the opinion of the guy on the keyboard here!
Just because they checked him before the draft doesn't mean that nothing has changed since then. I doubt things are going as planned. The guy hasn't played so far this season, he had back surgery at the end of November (odd timing), at the time they said he would play this season, now it seems very doubtful. Life is not a predefined algorithm. Sometimes sh%t just happens.
 

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Villardi is a guy that spent a lot of time dealing with back injuries post draft and has still turned into a really good player. It took a fair amount of time but back injuries aren't always a death blow to a players future.
The pearl-clutching about how long until Michkov would come over, but being ok with a 6-year timeline for an injured player to reach his pre-injury potential.
 
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The pearl-clutching about how long until Michkov would come over, but being ok with a 6-year timeline for an injured player to reach his pre-injury potential.
People are just generally impatient in the moment and eventually forget about what they were complaining about later. Michkov for example had people whining just because that's what people do. He also had a group that thought atleast when he does come over they probably have a superstar from day 1.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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Okay? lol
He’s right though. They said they couldn’t draft Michkov in large part because they needed an immediate contributor.

Well, Fantilli was okay-ish until getting injured in year 1. How much was that year really worth? Year 2, Michkov is clearly outproducing Fantilli.

It would seem like the “can’t draft Michkov because we need more of an immediate impact” rhetoric completely backfired.

That’s why the “let’s be patient with Lindstrom and look at his long term potential” rhetoric seems completely inconsistent with the Michkov rhetoric.

If they want to admit they got the 2023 draft wrong and that’s why they are taking a different stance for 2024, fair enough. Otherwise, it seems an inconsistent stance.
 
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He’s right though. They said they couldn’t draft Michkov in large part because they needed an immediate contributor.

Well, Fantilli was okay-ish until getting injured in year 1. How much was that year really worth? Year 2, Michkov is clearly outproducing Fantilli.

It would seem like the “can’t draft Michkov because we need more of an immediate impact” rhetoric completely backfired.

That’s why the “let’s be patient with Lindstrom and look at his long term potential” rhetoric seems completely inconsistent with the Michkov rhetoric.

If they want to admit they got the 2023 draft wrong and that’s why they are taking a different stance for 2024, fair enough. Otherwise, it seems an inconsistent stance.
Michkov falling was stupid. NHL teams can be dumb. I don’t think Michkov had anything to do with what I was saying though. I was simply saying long term it doesn’t necessarily mean he is done for. Obviously it isn’t ideal but they are where they are with him now.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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Michkov falling was stupid. NHL teams can be dumb. I don’t think Michkov had anything to do with what I was saying though. I was simply saying long term it doesn’t necessarily mean he is done for. Obviously it isn’t ideal but they are where they are with him now.
Right, I don’t disagree. I’m not even saying that Lindstrom’s hockey ability has taken any hit since last he played. I think it’s fair to judge a player on what they show. He hasn’t played since, so there’s nothing to judge, good or bad.

The tricky element with him is this injury. I don’t think it’s any certainty how his body reacts to it and how he recovers. There are plenty of people, including world class athletes, that have debilitating injuries and it limits them for years or for their whole life. I hope not for Lindstrom, but I also don’t think he’s infallible to that and it’s a certainty that he’s going to return soon and pick up where he left off.

It’s a sad situation and I hope for his sake and CBJ sake it can be a blip as opposed to a trend for him.
 
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Dumais

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So short-term VS longterm.

If I'm CBJ, I'm going with the centers (Fantilli & Lindstrom) over wingers (Demidov & Michkov) 10 times out of 10. And I'm sure CBJ mgt isn't going to regret it unless Marchenko, Chinahkov, Voronkov & KJ all turn into busts. Wingers don't win championship, Centers, Dmen & Goalies do.

This huge mistake is only a problem if CBJ desperately needed a franchise winger. They don't.
 

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So short-term VS longterm.

If I'm CBJ, I'm going with the centers (Fantilli & Lindstrom) over wingers (Demidov & Michkov) 10 times out of 10. And I'm sure CBJ mgt isn't going to regret it unless Marchenko, Chinahkov, Voronkov & KJ all turn into busts. Wingers don't win championship, Centers, Dmen & Goalies do.

This huge mistake is only a problem if CBJ desperately needed a franchise winger. They don't.

Right because Columbus couldn't use a PPG forward. :laugh: This is excuse-making for bad drafting at the highest level.
 

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