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F Anton Frondell - Djurgårdens IF U16, U16 Div.1 (2025 Draft)

There’s no doubt in my mind that several NHL scouts will leave Camrose with Frondell first or second on their overall list. Too many pro-level traits which are beyond elite at the junior level. He crushed it at the dot and almost all his wins were clean. He had only three or four unsatisfactory shifts the entire tournament.
 
I haven’t watched much of Frondell, but I tend to lean more to believing in the talent like the previous comments have said. Still, why isn’t he producing that much right now? Is it luck or a certain trait lagging behind that hasn’t clicked? I see all these great comments from the eye test but then I see he’s on pace for like .5 ppg and I wonder again.

Side note: Would you rather have Frondell or Helenius? Feel like it’s a somewhat similar situation, Helenius was in top 3-5 conversation after D-1 year, and fell a little bit and still had an extremely well rounded profile.
 
icelander25 said:
I haven’t watched much of Frondell, but I tend to lean more to believing in the talent like the previous comments have said. Still, why isn’t he producing that much right now? Is it luck or a certain trait lagging behind that hasn’t clicked? I see all these great comments from the eye test but then I see he’s on pace for like .5 ppg and I wonder again.

Side note: Would you rather have Frondell or Helenius? Feel like it’s a somewhat similar situation, Helenius was in top 3-5 conversation after D-1 year, and fell a little bit and still had an extremely well rounded profile.
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It’s almost an identical situation to Dvorsky’s in 2023 except AIK J20 wasnt as deep as Djurgardens. But people made a big deal of his drop in Allsvenskan production when he showed he could dominate his age group. Frondell is a dedicated checker once the puck enters his zone and plays a lot of man-to-man while anticipating puck travel. He’s rarely high so any transition to offense usually begins with him down low. I’d say he’d have a bunch of tertiary assists and his expected goal numbers would be quite high (at the J20 level). There’s also a bit of bad puck luck, but he rarely — and I mean rarely — has a shift where he doesn’t accomplish something positive, regardless of whether it develops into points in the box score.

I have plenty of video evidence of high-end playmaking and finishing.
 
Steve Kournianos said:
Best-case scenario is Barkov/Toews/Trottier. Extreme IQ, selfless, tough board play, leadership, faceoffs, will run a PP, physical, in addition to having elite puck skills.
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Please stop with those absurdity !! Typical HF poster that has no idea and overhype every new fresh toys.

If his best case scenario is Barkov, then he goes 1st overall in this draft no question asked. Those 3 players are all hall of famers and yes Barkov will be one at the end of his career.

No way Frondell has hall of fame prospect status currently, just stop the exageration.

Here's a more realistic one: Best case scanario is Elias Lindholm, which will already be a great accomplishment.

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Been looking at draft rankings: Elite Prospects - NHL Draft Center

Frondell is all over. Tough get a read of where he might go. I'm inclined to believe Bobby Mac but he has him at #3 but Misa at #7 (with Ryabkin at #5) so I'm not sure I trust it much.

Where do most people have him?
 
Erika said:
Please stop with those absurdity !! Typical HF poster that has no idea and overhype every new fresh toys.

If his best case scenario is Barkov, then he goes 1st overall in this draft no question asked. Those 3 players are all hall of famers and yes Barkov will be one at the end of his career.

No way Frondell has hall of fame prospect status currently, just stop the exageration.

Here's a more realistic one: Best case scanario is Elias Lindholm, which will already be a great accomplishment.

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That's right, the assessment of prospects is too high
 
Erika said:
Please stop with those absurdity !! Typical HF poster that has no idea and overhype every new fresh toys.

If his best case scenario is Barkov, then he goes 1st overall in this draft no question asked. Those 3 players are all hall of famers and yes Barkov will be one at the end of his career.

No way Frondell has hall of fame prospect status currently, just stop the exageration.

Here's a more realistic one: Best case scanario is Elias Lindholm, which will already be a great accomplishment.

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Looks like someone doesn’t know what “best case scenario” means.
 
SEALBound said:
Been looking at draft rankings: Elite Prospects - NHL Draft Center

Frondell is all over. Tough get a read of where he might go. I'm inclined to believe Bobby Mac but he has him at #3 but Misa at #7 (with Ryabkin at #5) so I'm not sure I trust it much.

Where do most people have him?
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Should be No. 1 on Central Scouting’s Euro rankings that come out soon. He’s a lock top-10 pick. If he keeps this up and stays healthy, he will go top five without a doubt. I think he’s the closest to Hagens for first forward taken.
 
SEALBound said:
Been looking at draft rankings: Elite Prospects - NHL Draft Center

Frondell is all over. Tough get a read of where he might go. I'm inclined to believe Bobby Mac but he has him at #3 but Misa at #7 (with Ryabkin at #5) so I'm not sure I trust it much.

Where do most people have him?
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McKenzie's rankings is from September. Many of the rankings shown on EP's Draft Center are actually fairly old. Still, many rankings from December still have him 5-6th, while others have him outside their Top 10.

2nd by FloHockey (June)
3rd by McKenzie (September)
3rd by Daily Faceoff (June)
4th by Draft Prospects (June)
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4th by THN Kennedy (October)
7th by La Première Ronde (October)
4th by Hockey Prospect (November)
5th by Craig Button (November)
6th by Corey Pronman (November)
6th by TSLH Lapointe (November)
6th by TSLH Gagné (November)
7th by TSLH Servant (November)
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5th by Sportsnet Consentino (December)
5th by Sportsnet Bukala (December)
5th by Recrutes McCagg (December)
6th by NHL Draft Pros (December)
6th by THN Ferrari (December)
6th by Upside Hockey (December)
7th by FCHockey (December)
8th by Smaht (December)
8th by McKeen (December)
8th by THW Horn (December)
9th by The Puck Bunker Rocco (December)
10th by Dobber (November)
11th by The Puck Bunker Boyce (December)
11th by RecScouting Kelly (January)
14th by Scouching (December)
15th by Briser la glace (December)
17th by Elite Prospect (December)
 
He’s rated mostly 5th after the 4 in North America. I don’t know how he’s really fallen so much after being looked at as 2 or 3 most of last season. I guess the injuries and Schaefer and Misa have done well. Maybe they just have more potential, but I don’t know that I’m sure about that yet. I’m closer to he’s about to break into the top 4 than he’s not top 5.
 
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