Post-Game Talk: Expos

[will1066]

Lmfao the hat actually went to Lindgren @will1066

Kakko accusation:

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

Imagine our bottom six was:

Cuylle - Bonino - Brodzinski
Vesey - Goodrow - Pitlick

Because that's what it was last year.

 

[bl02]

It's just reality no matter what happens Trouba and Lindgren are never coming out of the lineup.
If our best 5 on 5 KFC line continues to do what they are doing it will cover up a lot of the other crap.

Imagine our bottom six was:

Cuylle - Bonino - Brodzinski
Vesey - Goodrow - Pitlick

Because that's what it was last year.

Agreed. This team is better this year. Edstrom alone is better than 5 of the 6 guys you listed above (and I like Vesey).

 

[Harbour Dog]

Hate 5 on a defenseman. Makes me think of Dale Purinton.

Me reading a sentence about Dale Purinton, doesn't even make me think of Dale Purinton.

 

[Fitzy]

who's decidedly east west. kakko?

i feel like y'all don't watch him play lol he wants to grind in the corners and make a low high pass, go to the net to jam, recover the puck, and do it again. he likes to work behind the net and feed net front.

When I refer to a north-south player I generally mean the kind of forward who generates much of their offense quickly, on the rush.

East-west is cycle player who does better once they have possession in the O zone and specializes in sustained offense.

Jagr, Nylander, Kakko, Dubinsky, Anisimov, these are east-west players.

Matt Cullen, Chytil, Gaborik, Grabner, Zibanejad, Pouliot, these are north-south players.

It may very well be the 'wrong' definition, but that's how I use it.

 

[leetch99]

Imagine our bottom six was:

Cuylle - Bonino - Brodzinski
Vesey - Goodrow - Pitlick

Because that's what it was last year.

Plus they had deadweight Wheeler and Kakko in the top 6 .

 

[Peltz]

Me reading a sentence about Dale Purinton, doesn't even make me think of Dale Purinton.

The only reason why I think about Dale Purinton is because while he was on the team, they once showed during a pregame show that a fan from Japan had a giant Dale Purinton tatto on his arm or leg where he was skating through fire.

It was so random. I think about that guy a lot. Why did he get a Dale Purinton tattoo? Didn't he know how much of a nothing-burger Dale Purinton was?

It keeps me up at night.

 

[huerter]

I hate to complain about anything because I like so much of what I'm seeing, however just one nitpick:

The 4 on 3 PP continues to baffle me. Static, basically no movement, everyone outside the 'house' and just playing catch until they get a 60 foot one timer. It just makes no sense. You see it creep into 5 on 4's with PP1 sometimes too. They need movement, when they get static and pass around the outside is when the PP goes cold like it did in the playoffs.

I spend 100% of my day thinking about our 5 on 4 PP and trying to preserve it at all costs and I have no notes about the 4 on 3. What the hell are you supposed to do? There are no seams. Strike those opportunities from the stats.

 

[ecemleafs]

7 with at least 6 posts/crossbars

and 2 where chytil had the puck behind the goalie but either slid it wide or had his stick tied up and cudnt jam it in.

 

[will1066]

@Gordon Bombay

 

[kovazub94]

That was my exact thought when he pinched poorly last night. I want that aggressive play because it works 70% of the time and it’s a hdc if it works.

He’s also got the speed to get back.

I live with the poor pinch for trapping the other team in their zone for minutes at a time.

In this particular case - it was about the timing - the team is trying to just ice the game so anything on the potentially risky side should be avoided. At any other time - yeah he should go for it.

 

[IDvsEGO]

In this particular case - it was about the timing - the team is trying to just ice the game so anything on the potentially risky side should be avoided. At any other time - yeah he should go for it.

I don’t want him thinking of that though.
You do things by habit.
There’s never enough time to consider the score on a play like that.

 

[noncents]

Plus they had deadweight Wheeler and Kakko in the top 6 .

kakko? dead weight?

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Vesey is superfluous on this team

 

[KevinFinnerty]

This has to be the worst we've cooked a team since I've been on the board.

Actually last year or 2 years ago it was like 6-0 Rangers against Nashville

 

[gravey9]

Nice to get some wins where we can rest our top guys in the 3rd! Say what you want about the last few seasons but we didn't have that many "easy" wins. If we want to have something in the tank for the playoffs, these kinds of wins are incredibly helpful. It also gives guys like Mancini and Edstrom more reps which will only be helpful down the road.

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

Plus they had deadweight Wheeler and Kakko in the top 6 .

Smith >> Wheeler. Agreed.

However, Kakko is far from dead weight. After his rookie year, he has had a positive impact overall on the ice either through his good defensive play or his strong possession play with the puck along the walls or behind the net.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Vesey is superfluous on this team

He should compete with Brodz and Rempe for that 4th line wing.

 

[Machinehead]

Actually last year or 2 years ago it was like 6-0 Rangers against Nashville

We honestly weren't that great in that game. We scored on six consecutive shot attempts.

 

[leetch99]

Smith >> Wheeler. Agreed.

However, Kakko is far from dead weight. After his rookie year, he has had a positive impact overall on the ice either through his good defensive play or his strong possession play with the puck along the walls or behind the net.

I had Wheeler as the deadweight....I figured most would understand that . Sorry for the confusion .

We honestly weren't that great in that game. We scored on six consecutive shot attempts.

Shesty also made some great saves last night early on when needed & they were outshooting us....their goalie made no saves when needed .

 

[will1066]

He should compete with Brodz and Rempe for that 4th line wing.

I thought his comment meant acceptance of Brodz finally. Just as we were about to soak in the light, you just had to pull us back into the cave lol

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Not to interrupt the totally valid circle jerk here, but re Trouba destroying Barron:

A hit to the head, is a hit to the head, there are no circumstances that make it a clean hit. The rules are very clear and we got "lucky". The right call would have been 5 minute major on Trouba and a 2 min instigator penalty on Matheson.

Aside from that ... this season feels special so far.

 

[mike14]

Not to interrupt the totally valid circle jerk here, but re Trouba destroying Barron:

A hit to the head, is a hit to the head, there are no circumstances that make it a clean hit. The rules are very clear and we got "lucky". The right call would have been 5 minute major on Trouba and a 2 min instigator penalty on Matheson.

Aside from that ... this season feels special so far.

I don't know if the rules are that clear in the case of this hit:
48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an
opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and
such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted.
In determining whether contact with an opponent's head was
avoidable, the circumstances of the hit including the following shall be
considered:
(i) Whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the
opponent’s body and the head was not "picked" as a result of poor
timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the
body upward or outward.
(ii) Whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by
assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full
body check unavoidable.
(iii) Whether the opponent materially changed the position of his body
or head immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit in a way
that significantly contributed to the head contact.

Bolded is mine, but you could make a pretty convincing argument that it wasn't 'avoidable' as the rule is currently written.

This was one of those hits that shouldn't happen, but Trouba kind of had no other choice.
If he lets the player goes by because he judges him to be 'vulnerable' then he's getting benched and destroyed by media and fans everywhere.
If he tries to slow him down he'll get called for holding or similar,
So he has to hit him. And his body position was good. His elbow was tucked, he didn't hit 'up' but hit 'through' the player. It was basically text book hip and shoulder except that the Habs player had his head lowered, and Trouba is kind of entitled to not expect that

Until they change the rules so there's some other way to slow down guys without laying them out, you are going to get the occasional hit like this

 

[cheech70]

Highly recommend a trip to MTL...always have fun...except for 2 idiot activists who went on a bridge to cause chaos for 8 hrs its a great time.

 

[egelband]

Im a critic of Miller's boneheaed plays, but his game is so much more steady next to Fox compared to Trouba. I want Miller to be aggressive with his pinches. If its a 2 on 1 going the other way, well, thats why we score 5 goals a game and have Igor.

yes! people were complaining about the bad pinch - and it was really bad - but also, i didnt hate it. i like that he's thinking offense and not afraid to take risks. he'll get the judgment part better with repetition.