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PGT: Exhibition • North America 7 Europe 4 • 9/11/16 •

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Irishguy42 said:
One 15 second window of being good doesn't excuse an otherwise rather underwhelming game from him.
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Was it a rather underwhelming game? Did he not provide much for his linemates to work with? Because most people would agree creating a 2 on 1 for your linemates is in fact providing linemates with something to work with. I think everybody would agree doing it twice on the same shift is creating a **** ton for your linemates to work with.
 
McFlyingV said:
Honestly very good suggestion. I think gaudreau would be great with nuge and Mack. Nuge doesn't need to have the puck all the time and is a very smart player that could mesh with gaudreau
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More or less a Monahan :laugh:
 
BeSeeingYouSeattle said:
Matthews definitely wants the puck on his stick. I don't see him every playing a "complementary role" on any line. That doesn't mean it won't work, but he isn't a player that will be best used as just being a passenger, he's best when he's doing Matthew's things. Similar to JG and Eichel.

I think that line can work, but it can fail just as easily as two of the three need the puck to make the plays. Not to mention while Matthews can rush, he likes to slow the game down whereas McDavid doesn't seem to fair so well with that kind of play. Then again, they can probably do whatever is necessary. **** if I know.
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In my opinion, McDavid wants one guy who's big, physical and makes room and is a netfront presence and scores garbage goals and also gets the puck and another guy who is a goalscorer and who can use a snap shot one timer properly.

Scheifele can fill both roles at once and Larkin can do the goalscoring just fine as well, also the speed should work well with McDavid.
 
pigpen65 said:
Was it a rather underwhelming game? Did he not provide much for his linemates to work with? Because most people would agree creating a 2 on 1 for your linemates is in fact providing linemates with something to work with. I think everybody would agree doing it twice on the same shift is creating a **** ton for your linemates to work with.
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That's great that he did that on one shift.

That's one shift though. Doesn't really create a picture for the rest of the game, which wasn't really all that good. Creating a 2-on-1 twice in one shift is great. But if the rest of your game isn't good, then what's the point of that single great shift? Nothing.

I feel like you're trying hard to make that one window excuse him for the rest of his game.

Might have just been an off-game. We'll see.
 
How good can Gaudreau get? He seems to be the best player on any team he's ever been on. Always rises to the occasion. Some call his first goal lucky but I think it was nicer than his second goal. He knew exactly what he was doing.
 
ijuka said:
In my opinion, McDavid wants one guy who's big, physical and makes room and is a netfront presence and scores garbage goals and also gets the puck and another guy who is a goalscorer and who can use a snap shot one timer properly.

Scheifele can fill both roles at once and Larkin can do the goalscoring just fine as well, also the speed should work well with McDavid.
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Exactly. He plays best with a power forward who can control possession and create time and space for him.

He doesn't play well with two speedsters. He needs a big, physical winger on one side and a sniper on the other side.
 
Puckluck23 said:
How good can Gaudreau get? He seems to be the best player on any team he's ever been on. Always rises to the occasion. Some call his first goal lucky but I think it was nicer than his second goal. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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He loves banking the puck off the goalie's mask/opponents' skates/etc., that's for sure. If you dig into this very forum you'll find GDTs from previous international competitions in which people would argue whether he truly meant this or that deflected goal.

There's obviously a lot of luck involved in goals like that, but Gaudreau consistently puts himself into position to score them.
 
Resonator said:
You must be a young Millennial? :laugh:

Guess you missed Gretzky, Lemieux, Roy, Messier, Coffey etc... :D
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I'm 30 and yes, I missed the prime years for those players.

Except for maybe Patrick Roy but goalies don't count. Even if they did, Brodeur and Hasek were more impressive.

McDavid is the best hockey talent I've ever seen. It's also difficult to compare him to a legend from the 70s or 80s. He's faster than anyone from that era and would absolutely have a shot at 200 points in a season, if he played during the 80s.
 
Puckluck23 said:
How good can Gaudreau get? He seems to be the best player on any team he's ever been on. Always rises to the occasion. Some call his first goal lucky but I think it was nicer than his second goal. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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If i remember right, it was that goal with Sbisa and the goalie being flukey and all? If it was, there sure were some luck there.
 
McMatthews said:
I'm 30 and yes, I missed the prime years for those players.

Except for maybe Patrick Roy but goalies don't count. Even if they did, Brodeur and Hasek were more impressive.

McDavid is the best hockey talent I've ever seen. It's also difficult to compare him to a legend from the 70s or 80s. He's faster than anyone from that era and would absolutely have a shot at 200 points in a season, if he played during the 80s.
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McJesus hasn't proved anything yet in his young career. He's had ONE season in the show. ONE. The package to be one of the greatest of all-time is certainly there but unless you've seen the legends live and in person one should not make very bold speculations about the play of former greats in this league.

PS. Gretzky was better at his age!
 
Resonator said:
McJesus hasn't proved anything yet in his young career. He's had ONE season in the show. ONE. The package to be one of the greatest of all-time is certainly there but unless you've seen the legends live and in person one should not make very bold speculations about the play of former greats in this league.

PS. Gretzky was better at his age!
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No body was better than gretzky pretty much at any age comparison. Most intelligent hockey player I've ever seen. Using opponents and team mates reflections off the glass to see them coming was genius.
 
Johnny Hockey has been the most impressive player in all the exhibtiions, for any team.

He is just so smooth. I wonder if he has a Ross in his future?
 
Irishguy42 said:
That's great that he did that on one shift.

That's one shift though. Doesn't really create a picture for the rest of the game, which wasn't really all that good. Creating a 2-on-1 twice in one shift is great. But if the rest of your game isn't good, then what's the point of that single great shift? Nothing.

I feel like you're trying hard to make that one window excuse him for the rest of his game.

Might have just been an off-game. We'll see.
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He was one of the more responsible forwards for team NA and was directly involved in a lot of great chances. Had very crisp passes, got pucks to the net, and didn't overextend his shifts as much as his linemates were doing at times. Foolish to pretend he did absolutely nothing all game except for one shift. It's exhibition just relax.
 
Volica said:
More or less a Monahan :laugh:
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Yeah, somewhat similarly. Nuge is more of a passer and imo is a better skater and better with his stick, but Monahan has a better shot and is bigger and stronger. Nuge does have a nice deceptive wrist shot that he underutilizes though, so that could shine a little more with Gaudreau's playmaking.
 
Puckluck23 said:
How good can Gaudreau get? He seems to be the best player on any team he's ever been on. Always rises to the occasion. Some call his first goal lucky but I think it was nicer than his second goal. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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I wouldn't call it lucky, he meant to throw it off the goalie and in, but it was horrific goaltending by Halak not getting his post closed off. Really just a lazy goaltending play more than anything, which was a pretty common theme in the first half of that game by Europe. NA dominated the first half no doubt, but it should not have been a 5-2 game after one. NA was lucky to have 3 goals with how sloppy they were in a lot of their plays. This really is no surprise though, its the 2nd week of September. I'd be way more surprised if guys were on their game and making perfect plays and passes and had their timing down. Anyone who's played hockey knows it takes weeks or even a month to really get the groove back on the ice.
 
How about these lines for the final exhibition game?

Larkin - McDavid - Saad

Gaudreau - Matthews - Miller

Eichel - Mackinnon - Drouin

Schiefele - Couturier - RNH

In no particular order.
 
DraberlyakMcHallkins said:
I think Eichel's got the higher offensive upside, Matthews the higher defensive. Not a fan of Eichel's defensive game at all, had a chunk of poor decisions with the puck in his own end tonight.
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Really?
Matthews offensive skillset looks more impressive imo.
 
scan15 said:
How about these lines for the final exhibition game?

Larkin - McDavid - Saad

Gaudreau - Matthews - Miller

Eichel - Mackinnon - Drouin

Schiefele - Couturier - RNH

In no particular order.
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Why split up Mackinnon and RNH?
 
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