quietbruinfan
Salt and light
It was 1 assist but a plus 5 last I checked. Think he had a shootout goal last night. I agree, good riddance think he floated for much of the season.
Former Bruins Ex Bruin general discussion II
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BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Sunday March 23rd - 2025
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 goal, 2 assists ( 1 on the PP ), 2 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a +1
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 2 PP goals and 6 SOG
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 1 assist, 3 hits and a -1
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 1 goal, 1 assist, 1 SOG and a +2
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 1 goal, 3 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 1 SH assist, 2 SOG, 2 hits, 2 PIM and a +1
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 3 hits and a -1
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh ) 1 SOG
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 1 PP assist and a +1
Jesper Boqvist ( Florida ) 2 hits and a +1
A.J. Greer ( Florida ) 2 hits
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 3 goals ( 1 on the PP and 1 ENG ), 3 SOG and a +2
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 4 SOG, 1 hit and a +1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 5 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 assist, 1 SOG, 2 hits and a +2
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 12th straight game with an upper-body injury
Tomas Nosek ( Florida ) was a healthy scratch for the 6th straight game
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 goal, 2 assists ( 1 on the PP ), 2 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a +1
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 2 PP goals and 6 SOG
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 1 assist, 3 hits and a -1
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 1 goal, 1 assist, 1 SOG and a +2
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 1 goal, 3 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 1 SH assist, 2 SOG, 2 hits, 2 PIM and a +1
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 3 hits and a -1
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh ) 1 SOG
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 1 PP assist and a +1
Jesper Boqvist ( Florida ) 2 hits and a +1
A.J. Greer ( Florida ) 2 hits
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 3 goals ( 1 on the PP and 1 ENG ), 3 SOG and a +2
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 4 SOG, 1 hit and a +1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 5 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 assist, 1 SOG, 2 hits and a +2
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 12th straight game with an upper-body injury
Tomas Nosek ( Florida ) was a healthy scratch for the 6th straight game
BMC
Registered User
Happy Birthday to an honorary former Bruin, Jack Edwards!!!!!
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Monday March 24th - 2025
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 2 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 1 SOG and 2 PIM
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 1 goal, 2 SOG and a +1
Sean Kuraly ( Columbus ) 2 SOG, 4 hits and a -1
JVR ( Columbus ) 1 hit
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) 1 assist, 4 SOG and a +1
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 1 SOG and 1 hit
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -2
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 assist, 2 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
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Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) was a healthy scratch for the 2nd time in the last 3 games
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 2 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 1 SOG and 2 PIM
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 1 goal, 2 SOG and a +1
Sean Kuraly ( Columbus ) 2 SOG, 4 hits and a -1
JVR ( Columbus ) 1 hit
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) 1 assist, 4 SOG and a +1
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 1 SOG and 1 hit
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -2
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 assist, 2 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
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Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) was a healthy scratch for the 2nd time in the last 3 games
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Tuesday March 25 - 2025
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 2 hits
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 1 PP goal, 2 SOG and a -1
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 1 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -1
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 1 SOG, 4 hits and a -2
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh )
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 1 assist, 2 hits and a -2
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 4 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a +1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 SOG and 1 hit
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 1 SOG, 2 hits and a -1
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 1 goal, 1 SOG and 2 hits
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 hit and 2 PIM
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 1 hit and a -1
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 13th straight game with an upper-body injury
Urho Vaakanainen ( NY Rangers ) was a healthy scratch for the 3rd straight game
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 2 hits
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 1 PP goal, 2 SOG and a -1
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 1 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -1
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 1 SOG, 4 hits and a -2
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh )
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 1 assist, 2 hits and a -2
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and a +2
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 4 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a +1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 SOG and 1 hit
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 1 SOG, 2 hits and a -1
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 1 goal, 1 SOG and 2 hits
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 hit and 2 PIM
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 1 hit and a -1
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 13th straight game with an upper-body injury
Urho Vaakanainen ( NY Rangers ) was a healthy scratch for the 3rd straight game
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Wednesday March 26th - 2025
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 4 hits, 2 PIM and a -1
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and a +1
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 PP goal and 1 SOG
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 2 assists ( 1 on the PP ), 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 1 assist, 1 SOG, 5 hits and a +1
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 2 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -2
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 2 SOG and a +1
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 1 goal, 1 SOG and a +1
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) 2 SOG and a -2
Max Jones ( Edmonton ) 4 hits and a -1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 3 hits and 12 PIM ( Vatrano received a 10 minute misconduct along with a roughing minor against Boston's Parker Wortherspoon )
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 4 hits, 2 PIM and a -1
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and a +1
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 PP goal and 1 SOG
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 2 assists ( 1 on the PP ), 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 1 assist, 1 SOG, 5 hits and a +1
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 2 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -2
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 2 SOG and a +1
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 1 goal, 1 SOG and a +1
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) 2 SOG and a -2
Max Jones ( Edmonton ) 4 hits and a -1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 3 hits and 12 PIM ( Vatrano received a 10 minute misconduct along with a roughing minor against Boston's Parker Wortherspoon )
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Thursday March 27th - 2025
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 2 hits and a -2
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh ) a +1
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 1 assist, 1 SOG and a -3
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 1 assist, 2 SOG, 5 hits, 2 PIM and a +2
Linus Ullmark ( Ottawa ) stopped 31 of 34 shots ( .912 Save Pct. ) and got the win as Ottawa beat Detroit 4-3
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 assist, 1 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -1
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 2 hits, 2 PIM and a +1
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 1 PP assist and 1 SOG
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 2 PIM
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 2 SOG
Max Jones ( Edmonton ) 2 SOG, 2 hits and a -1
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 1 SOG and 1 hit
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 14th straight game with an upper-body injury. It is expected that the team will officially shut him down for the year over the next couple of weeks
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 2 hits and a -2
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh ) a +1
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 1 assist, 1 SOG and a -3
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 1 assist, 2 SOG, 5 hits, 2 PIM and a +2
Linus Ullmark ( Ottawa ) stopped 31 of 34 shots ( .912 Save Pct. ) and got the win as Ottawa beat Detroit 4-3
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 assist, 1 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -1
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 2 hits, 2 PIM and a +1
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 1 PP assist and 1 SOG
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 2 PIM
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 2 SOG
Max Jones ( Edmonton ) 2 SOG, 2 hits and a -1
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 1 SOG and 1 hit
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 14th straight game with an upper-body injury. It is expected that the team will officially shut him down for the year over the next couple of weeks
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Friday March 28th - 2025
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 1 PP goal and 3 SOG
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 2 SOG, 3 hits and a -1
Jesper Boqvist ( Florida ) 1 SOG and 2 hits
A.J. Greer ( Florida ) 1 SOG, 3 hits and 2 PIM
Brad Marchand ( Florida ) 1 assist, 4 SOG, 2 hits and a +1
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 PP goal, 4 SOG and a -2
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 2 hits
Sean Kuraly ( Columbus ) 2 SOG and 2 hits
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 3 hits and a -1
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) 4 hits and a -1
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 1 hit, 2 PIM and a +1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 assist, 2 SOG and a +2
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 SOG and a -1
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 3 goals, 4 SOG and a +1
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 6 hits
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 1 hit and a -1
Urho Vaakanainen ( NY Rangers ) 1 SOG, 2 PIM and a +1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 2 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -2
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Tomas Nosek ( Florida ) was a healthy scratch for the 7th straight game
JVR ( Columbus ) was a healthy scratch
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 1 PP goal and 3 SOG
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 2 SOG, 3 hits and a -1
Jesper Boqvist ( Florida ) 1 SOG and 2 hits
A.J. Greer ( Florida ) 1 SOG, 3 hits and 2 PIM
Brad Marchand ( Florida ) 1 assist, 4 SOG, 2 hits and a +1
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 PP goal, 4 SOG and a -2
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 2 hits
Sean Kuraly ( Columbus ) 2 SOG and 2 hits
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 3 hits and a -1
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) 4 hits and a -1
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 1 hit, 2 PIM and a +1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 assist, 2 SOG and a +2
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 SOG and a -1
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 3 goals, 4 SOG and a +1
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 6 hits
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 1 hit and a -1
Urho Vaakanainen ( NY Rangers ) 1 SOG, 2 PIM and a +1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 2 SOG, 1 hit, 2 PIM and a -2
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Tomas Nosek ( Florida ) was a healthy scratch for the 7th straight game
JVR ( Columbus ) was a healthy scratch
BMC
Registered User
Once again thank you @BostonBob for collecting all this info so we can keep up on what our favorite former Bs are doing!
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Thanks - I don't think I've ever used this much C&P before.
McGarnagle
Yes.
- Aug 5, 2017
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Colin Miller has had a really long career for a guy who has never really excelled at any facet of the game. He's just solid enough all around to hang on bottom pairings and has had a good ten year career around the league
The Andrew Peeke Fan
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- Feb 26, 2020
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Guys love him, he's a character. Remember his AHL ASG skills performance? Hockey royalty
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Saturday March 29th - 2025
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 2 SOG, 3 hits and a +1
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 1 SOG
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 2 hits and a -1
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and 2 PIM
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 2 SOG and 1 hit
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 PP goal and 4 SOG
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 1 SOG, 1 hit, 5 PIM and a +2 ( Carlo fought with LA's Jeff Malott )
Sean Kuraly ( Columbus ) 2 SOG and 3 hits
Linus Ullmark ( Ottawa ) stopped 29 of 31 shots ( .935 Save Pct. ) and got the win as Ottawa beat Columbus 3-2
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 SOG and 4 hits
Max Jones ( Edmonton ) a -1
Urho Vaakanainen ( NY Rangers ) 2 assists, 1 SOG and a +2
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 15th straight game with an upper-body injury.
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) was a healthy scratch
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) was a healthy scratch
JVR ( Columbus ) was a healthy scratch for the 2nd straight game
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 2 SOG, 3 hits and a +1
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 1 SOG
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 2 hits and a -1
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and 2 PIM
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 2 SOG and 1 hit
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Reilly Smith ( Vegas ) 1 PP goal and 4 SOG
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 1 SOG, 1 hit, 5 PIM and a +2 ( Carlo fought with LA's Jeff Malott )
Sean Kuraly ( Columbus ) 2 SOG and 3 hits
Linus Ullmark ( Ottawa ) stopped 29 of 31 shots ( .935 Save Pct. ) and got the win as Ottawa beat Columbus 3-2
Craig Smith ( Detroit ) 1 SOG and 4 hits
Max Jones ( Edmonton ) a -1
Urho Vaakanainen ( NY Rangers ) 2 assists, 1 SOG and a +2
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Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) still listed as day-to-day but missed his 15th straight game with an upper-body injury.
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) was a healthy scratch
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) was a healthy scratch
JVR ( Columbus ) was a healthy scratch for the 2nd straight game
bruinsfan1968
Registered User
I hope Brando is okay.
Given his concussion history, he should avoid fighting at all costs,
www.masslive.com
Given his concussion history, he should avoid fighting at all costs,
Former Bruins D-man involved in punch-heavy fight
An ex-Bruins defenseman who doesn't fight much squared off in a brouhaha for his new team.
goldenblack
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- Mar 24, 2025
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BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
You mean that we have to wait until his 7th full season before he has a good offensive season ????
Grasshopperking
Registered User
Anyone who FREAKED out at Nostradamus here should apologize immediately!
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Sunday March 30th - 2025
Jesper Boqvist ( Florida ) 2 hits
A.J. Greer ( Florida ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and 2 PIM
Brad Marchand ( Florida ) 1 hit
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 2 assists, 2 SOG, 4 hits and a +1
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 2 SOG and a -1
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 6 hits and a -1
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 1 assist and a +2
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 SOG and a -1
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 1 goal, 2 SOG and a -1
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 1 assist, 3 hits and a -1
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 2 hits and 7 PIM ( Maroon fought with Utah's Jack McBain )
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 1 PP assist, 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 1 goal, 3 SOG and 1 hit
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 1 SOG and 7 hits
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh ) 2 SOG and 2 hits
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 3 SOG
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 1 SOG, 2 hits, 2 PIM and a -1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 3 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
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Tomas Nosek ( Florida ) was a healthy scratch for the 8th straight game
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) was a healthy scratch for the 2nd straight game
Jesper Boqvist ( Florida ) 2 hits
A.J. Greer ( Florida ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and 2 PIM
Brad Marchand ( Florida ) 1 hit
Connor Clifton ( Buffalo ) 2 assists, 2 SOG, 4 hits and a +1
Jake DeBrusk ( Vancouver ) 1 assist, 2 SOG and a -1
Derek Forbort ( Vancouver ) 6 hits and a -1
Colin Miller ( Winnipeg ) 1 assist and a +2
Tyler Bertuzzi ( Chicago ) 1 SOG and a -1
Ryan Donato ( Chicago ) 1 goal, 2 SOG and a -1
Nick Foligno ( Chicago ) 1 assist, 3 hits and a -1
Pat Maroon ( Chicago ) 2 hits and 7 PIM ( Maroon fought with Utah's Jack McBain )
Taylor Hall ( Carolina ) 1 PP assist, 2 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Dmitry Orlov ( Carolina ) 1 goal, 3 SOG and 1 hit
Noel Acciari ( Pittsburgh ) 1 SOG and 7 hits
Danton Heinen ( Pittsburgh ) 2 SOG and 2 hits
Matt Grzelcyk ( Pittsburgh ) 3 SOG
Brandon Carlo ( Toronto ) 1 SOG, 2 hits, 2 PIM and a -1
Frank Vatrano ( Anaheim ) 3 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
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Tomas Nosek ( Florida ) was a healthy scratch for the 8th straight game
Mike Reilly ( NY Islanders ) was a healthy scratch for the 2nd straight game
BostonBob
4 Ever The Greatest
Monday March 31st - 2025
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 3 hits and a -1
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 1 SOG
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) 3 hits
Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) 1 SOG and 3 hits ( Hathaway was activated prior to the game )
Dan Vladar ( Calgary ) stopped 28 of 30 shots ( .933 Save Pct. ) and got the win as Calgary beat Colorado 3-2 in a Shootout
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 0's across the board
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 2 hits, 2 PIM and a -2
Justin Brazeau ( Minnesota ) 3 hits and a -1
Marcus Johansson ( Minnesota ) 1 SOG, 1 hit and a -1
Erik Haula ( New Jersey ) 1 SOG
Curtis Lazar ( New Jersey ) 3 hits
Garnet Hathaway ( Philadelphia ) 1 SOG and 3 hits ( Hathaway was activated prior to the game )
Dan Vladar ( Calgary ) stopped 28 of 30 shots ( .933 Save Pct. ) and got the win as Calgary beat Colorado 3-2 in a Shootout
Charlie Coyle ( Colorado ) 0's across the board
Ryan Lindgren ( Colorado ) 2 hits, 2 PIM and a -2
I wonder how things would have played out had the Bruins kept Vladar over Swayman back in 2021.
