Former Bruins Ex Bruin general discussion II

[bruins4thecup65]

thats the better argument. Its not that they dont spend. Its where they spend. Not good IMO.

Exactly.

I think they look at the big picture and don’t weigh everything out properly. Mistakes are sometimes made, it’s not an easy thing to do being Nostradamus

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Letting him go without replacing was done to line Jacob's pockets.

 

[whatsbruin]

I watched the Islanders today for the first time in a while, losing yet another game, this time to Calgary. It was nice to see Chara again. He looks pretty much the same as ever since he cracked 40. It was a reminder too that despite how much the Isles have sucked this year he still has a better plus/minus than any Bruins defender except McAvoy and Gryz. And that he was basically pushed out of Boston supposedly to make way for youth, but his direct spot is essentially currently being filled by a 29 year-old trade-in who costs 3 times as much while not being as good and bringing none of Zee's leadership and gravitas.

Which is not to hate on Forbort, who's fine for what he is, or to resent Chara being let go, which was a logical enough decision in principle. Rather it's to reflect on Sweeney making one of his many moves that was right in theory but botched in execution, like Ritchie for Heinen or giving washed up Foligno a bad contract.

I don't believe Chara was let go. Pretty sure they wanted to re-sign him, but told him he is no longer a top pair D'man, and he said no thanks. I'd rather they be upfront and truthful to him so he can decide , rather than sign him and have him play 2nd or 3rd pair and be pissed.

 

[whatsbruin]

Exactly.

I think they look at the big picture and don’t weigh everything out properly. Mistakes are sometimes made, it’s not an easy thing to do being Nostradamus

two dimes and a nickel, or a Quarter ?
Too often the Bruins go from a Quarter to two dimes and a Nickel, and while the 2 dimes and a
nickel add up to 25, with players and skill and the players production, it doesn't add up.

 

[ON3M4N]

I watched the Islanders today for the first time in a while, losing yet another game, this time to Calgary. It was nice to see Chara again. He looks pretty much the same as ever since he cracked 40. It was a reminder too that despite how much the Isles have sucked this year he still has a better plus/minus than any Bruins defender except McAvoy and Gryz. And that he was basically pushed out of Boston supposedly to make way for youth, but his direct spot is essentially currently being filled by a 29 year-old trade-in who costs 3 times as much while not being as good and bringing none of Zee's leadership and gravitas.

Which is not to hate on Forbort, who's fine for what he is, or to resent Chara being let go, which was a logical enough decision in principle. Rather it's to reflect on Sweeney making one of his many moves that was right in theory but botched in execution, like Ritchie for Heinen or giving washed up Foligno a bad contract.

He was not pushed out. IIRC the Bruins offered him the same (maybe slightly more) than Washington, but wanted Chara to play a reduced role. Chara didn't want that and decided to go to Washington....where he played a reduced role and ranked 5th among WSH defenders in ATOI. This year with the Islanders he's playing nearly identical minutes in (again) a reduced role.

 

[Gee Wally]

Wow….

 

[Aussie Bruin]

He was not pushed out. IIRC the Bruins offered him the same (maybe slightly more) than Washington, but wanted Chara to play a reduced role. Chara didn't want that and decided to go to Washington....where he played a reduced role and ranked 5th among WSH defenders in ATOI. This year with the Islanders he's playing nearly identical minutes in (again) a reduced role.

You're reading too much into that sentence. I'm not saying he was forcibly removed from the organization. Just that he was removed from his existing position because they wanted to prioritize giving more TOI to younger players. As you say, Sweeney offered him a reduced role, which Chara declined, as he was always likely to do. The reason Zee then went and took that exact same reduced role elsewhere is obvious - pride. Completely different taking on a smaller role in a place where you have no pre-existing history or standing to one in which you have been the captain and backbone of the defense for over a decade and where taking a lesser position looks much more obviously like a demotion. In Chara's position I'd have left too.

But again, the point isn't that Chara left. No issue with that, the time was right to do it. Cannot stress that enough. The problem lies in what came afterwards, as I've already explained. Another Sweeney botch.

 

[chizzler]

Wow….

Screw him. He shits on the Bruins.

 

[jgatie]

Screw him. He shits on the Bruins.

The Bruins shit on him worse. Sinden screwed him bad, promised him if he signs for cheap, he will be Bruin for life, which is all Phil wanted. A month later, Harry traded him. Phil has a right to his anger.

 

[chizzler]

The Bruins shit on him worse. Sinden screwed him bad, promised him if he signs for cheap, he will be Bruin for life, which is all Phil wanted. A month later, Harry traded him. Phil has a right to his anger.

Should be mad at Sinden. Who isn’t?!

 

[jgatie]

Should be mad at Sinden. Who isn’t?!

Well, Sinden was the face of the Bruins for years, Phil's got no other basis for liking the team. Sort of like people still hating Jacobs, when he's spent to the cap for a decade and a half.

 

[sooshii]

Congrats Z!

 

[Number6]

Congrats Z!

Amazing career, amazing athlete, and an amazing person too. I hope everyone here realize how lucky we were to have him as the Bruins' captain for so long. Congratulations Zdeno!

 

[Thirty Seven]

Congrats Z!

Congrats to Z!

When I was in my teens I got to see him play a lot when he played for the Prince George Cougars. Happy he became a Bruin and man does time fly.

 

[Bruinaura]

Great article.

Please retire and come back to Boston, Zee!!

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

incredible

 

[missingchicklet]

Great article.

Please retire and come back to Boston, Zee!!

Definitely a great article. He has so many interests, who knows what he will do after his playing career ends, but if he decides to stay in hockey it would be amazing if he brought his intellect and insight to the Bruins organization. Dude is so driven that I think he will be successful in whatever he does. I remember seeing an interview with him when he was a teenager in the AHL. Reporter asked him what he liked to do in his free time. Z said, "Working out." Reporter asked him what he liked to do other than working out. Z said, "Working out." He was a tall gangly teen at that point and knew he had to put on weight to be more successful. Played some NHL games that season with the Isles, learned his weaknesses, kept working out like a mad man, and the next season started blossoming into a full time NHL player. Z is an impressive person. Not telling Bs fans anything new.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I liked Krug, but you have to be realistic in a cap era. $6.5 million to Krug would have handicapped the entire structure.

Well not really. He’s been very good in St.Lou. Actually great 5vs5. We really miss him

 

[EverettMike]

Well, Sinden was the face of the Bruins for years, Phil's got no other basis for liking the team. Sort of like people still hating Jacobs, when he's spent to the cap for a decade and a half.

LOL.

The cap is bad for the Bruins. That's why Jacobs loves it. He can "spend to the cap" and get praised for doing so, even though the cap is well below what the Bruins can afford.

 

[Dr Hook]

LOL.

The cap is bad for the Bruins. That's why Jacobs loves it. He can "spend to the cap" and get praised for doing so, even though the cap is well below what the Bruins can afford.

If I remember right, he was one of the leaders in the charge to get the cap implemented.

 

[EverettMike]

If I remember right, he was one of the leaders in the charge to get the cap implemented.

Cost us an entire season so he had an excuse not to maximize his team's financial advantage.

 

[DKH]

It’s interesting taking a dive into FA signings

overall not good

I did Detroit, Toronto, Chicago, Rangers, Montreal - original six last 10 years and will publish

Bruins actually come out really well

bottom line unless Chara type super star that picks you stay away

draft & develop

damn lucky they gave 3/4 of the star blueprint covered 25 and under
G Raycroft
D McAvoy
W Pastrnak
C?????

 

[jgatie]

LOL.

The cap is bad for the Bruins. That's why Jacobs loves it. He can "spend to the cap" and get praised for doing so, even though the cap is well below what the Bruins can afford.

So you'd rather be in a league where the Leafs can spend anything they want and Jacobs is still cheap? The cap is good for the Bruins while Jacobs is the owner.

 

[EverettMike]

So you'd rather be in a league where the Leafs can spend anything they want and Jacobs is still cheap? The cap is good for the Bruins while Jacobs is the owner.

I'd rather someone else owned the Bruins.

But if this is what we're stuck with I'd at least hope Bruins fans didn't praise him for "spending to the cap."

 

[trenton1]

LOL.

The cap is bad for the Bruins. That's why Jacobs loves it. He can "spend to the cap" and get praised for doing so, even though the cap is well below what the Bruins can afford.

It sucks that I can only like this post one time.