Prospect Info: Everything Swedish

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Seider is Bowey defensively now.

If Seider = Bowey, then surely Bowey = Seider. And to think Yzerman didn't even qualify the next Moritz Seider.

 

[Gniwder]

Seider is Bowey defensively now.

You guys are hilarious.

It's one play, but he left his man to go chase the puck which is what Bowey always does. In this particular play, he had absolutely no reason to leave his man. It shows immaturity in his game, I get flamed here because I'm not ready to declare him elite defensively. He obviously still has holes in his game, but he's also 19YO. It will hopefully improve.

Also, nobody can ever be as bad as Bowey, he's got absolutely no brain at all, lol. That play was terrible though.

What we know is that we've got a physical Dman with a few holes in his game. I guess that's enough to get flamed on this board.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Seider doesn’t have holes in his defensive game though. He’s about as complete as it gets for the levels he’s played at so far. Reading anything into a play like that is like seeing Ovechkin shoot wide and determine he needs to improve his shot.

 

[Gniwder]

Seider doesn’t have holes in his defensive game though. He’s about as complete as it gets for the levels he’s played at so far. Reading anything into a play like that is like seeing Ovechkin shoot wide and determine he needs to improve his shot.

Kinda different when it's a mental mistake. Ovechkin knows when to shoot and when not to. He rarely gets a shot blocked when playing the point on power plays. It's not the only time Seider has chased the puck.

That's the sorta thing that you get away with at lower levels, not the NHL. You don't see NHL defensemen chasing the puck.

I'm sure it's something that he will get coached on. I think it's silly to say he's elite defensively or that he doesn't have holes. But whatever, you're entitled to your own opinions. Flame away.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Kinda different when it's a mental mistake. Ovechkin knows when to shoot and when not to. He rarely gets a shot blocked when playing the point on power plays. It's not the only time Seider has chased the puck.

That's the sorta thing that you get away with at lower levels, not the NHL. You don't see NHL defensemen chasing the puck.

I'm sure it's something that he will get coached on. I think it's silly to say he's elite defensively or that he doesn't have holes. But whatever, you're entitled to your own opinions. Flame away.

I think someone can make mistakes without having ”holes” in their game. We’re still talking about a 19 year old who has arguably been the most dominant defensive player in the SHL since he stepped in. This was in my opinion one of very, very few mental lapses he’s had. He can improve in many ways and learn when he makes mistakes, but if you think he has holes defensively you’d faint if you saw what other 18, 19, 20, 21 year old D looks like in the SHL..

 

[newfy]

I think someone can make mistakes without having ”holes” in their game. We’re still talking about a 19 year old who has arguably been the most dominant defensive player in the SHL since he stepped in. This was in my opinion one of very, very few mental lapses he’s had. He can improve in many ways and learn when he makes mistakes, but if you think he has holes defensively you’d faint if you saw what other 18, 19, 20, 21 year old D looks like in the SHL..

I would like to see/hear from Swedish posters who watch the SHL closely who they think is the best player in the league this year. I really think its Seider from what I've seen and the advanced stats

 

[MBH]

Seider doesn’t have holes in his defensive game though. He’s about as complete as it gets for the levels he’s played at so far. Reading anything into a play like that is like seeing Ovechkin shoot wide and determine he needs to improve his shot.

What I noticed in some viewing of Seider is he gets caught watching the puck and forgetting the man sneaking in behind him.
That's about the only thing I've seen in his game that looks like a weakness, defensively.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Its hard to say if he is the best, but for sure one of the best.

stat-wise, here is PPG for d so far:

hits:

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Its hard to say if he is the best, but for sure one of the best.

stat-wise, here is PPG for d so far:

hits:

Joel Lundqvist, that's the bastage that broke Kronwall's sacrum earlier in his career. He played a whopping 26 NHL reg. season games but managed to take down a pretty tough Dman. Surprised he's leading the SHL in hits at his age too. Also he's Henrik's twin brother.

 

[Oddbob]

Bowey without the shot

Bowey without the grenade blade!

 

[Oddbob]

If Seider = Bowey, then surely Bowey = Seider. And to think Yzerman didn't even qualify the next Moritz Seider.

The next Moritz Seider had me laughing more than I should have!

 

[Pavels Dog]

I would like to see/hear from Swedish posters who watch the SHL closely who they think is the best player in the league this year. I really think its Seider from what I've seen and the advanced stats

There are some forwards that would get consideration, Emil Pettersson, maybe Daniel Zaar, some other D like Joel Persson and Eric Gelinas can't be ignored either.
A bit too early to talk about him as the best player overall probably but give it another 10-15 games if he keeps it up he'll be in that discussion.

 

[rawraw]

Kinda different when it's a mental mistake. Ovechkin knows when to shoot and when not to. He rarely gets a shot blocked when playing the point on power plays. It's not the only time Seider has chased the puck.

That's the sorta thing that you get away with at lower levels, not the NHL. You don't see NHL defensemen chasing the puck.

I'm sure it's something that he will get coached on. I think it's silly to say he's elite defensively or that he doesn't have holes. But whatever, you're entitled to your own opinions. Flame away.

1) Happens pretty much every game.

2) So what does he have to do in order to be considered elite defensively? Do you think he makes too many mistakes in his own zone to be considered elite defensively?

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Elite D-man get beat on plays like that gang. The second best D-man in the history of the game had some minus games. He thought he could apply pressure get there at the same time get stick on puck and then take the body sealing the play off. He didn't get there in time, which is the golden rule, don't leave the front unless you know you can tie up the man and disrupt the play. But I am not shocked, he isn't going to play mistake free for 20 years, nobody does. He is a split second late, one of the things I really like about Seider is that he rarely makes big mistakes and when he does you can see adjustments. But there are going to be bumpy moments for sure, every NHL D-man has them.

 

[Pavels Dog]

 

[lhsgolf19]

Lindstrom and Larsson coming back too

 

[ChadS]

Lindstrom and Larsson coming back too

Kind of surprised about Larsson, but I guess it's possible to loan him out again. However, he hasn't been in the Almtuna lineup at all in recent games and his numbers are pretty bad so far.

 

[lhsgolf19]

My guess is Larsson is going to be on the taxi squad, 3rd Goalie... Not sure if Pickard is coming back over

We'll see

 

[lilidk]

Right at this moment Setkov 58 vs Wallinder 22. Setkov looks dominant only 21 years old

 

[Preposterone]

There are some forwards that would get consideration, Emil Pettersson, maybe Daniel Zaar, some other D like Joel Persson and Eric Gelinas can't be ignored either.
A bit too early to talk about him as the best player overall probably but give it another 10-15 games if he keeps it up he'll be in that discussion.

Just from my viewings watching wings prospects the past two years, I think Joel Persson has been my favorite. Hrivk and Camper have been basically unstoppable this year as well, but they're more of a dynamic duo than the best individuals.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Berggrens vision is Elite don’t at me

 

[FabricDetails]

I get why the jerseys are the way they there, necessary evil and bla bla bla. But they genuinely makes me sad.

 

[Gniwder]

That's "Elite" Bowey

Most people don't realize Bowey was a PPG player in the juniors, so at one point he actually was elite at a lower level.

His stat line for his first AHL season wasn't bad either.

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[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Plus he was 8th on the team this season in points, 2nd for dmen.

Just goes to show that stat watching can be misleading, and not every prospect develops as hoped.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Most people don't realize Bowey was a PPG player in the juniors, so at one point he actually was elite at a lower level.

His stat line for his first AHL season wasn't bad either.

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[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Plus he was 8th on the team this season in points, 2nd for dmen.

Just goes to show that stat watching can be misleading, and not every prospect develops as hoped.

Nobody cares what someone did in juniors if they suck in the NHL, all it does is maybe gets them another PTO/13th/14th F or 7/8D shot, maybe.

Kirk Maltby was a 50G scorer once too...see how easy that was.

Also, fully aware of Bowey's offensive contribution to last years team.

 

[Gniwder]

Nobody cares what someone did in juniors if they suck in the NHL

That was actually my point...

That's why I don't get excited until prospects play in the NHL.