Rumor: Everything JT Miller | Elias Pettersson trade Thread | Part 409

[ginner classic]

Honestly, guys, I think I might just lock the thread.

It was fun while it lasted, but I think it’s time

Umm, why? That makes zero sense. You are doing a public service for all of HF Boards having a single thread capture all the rumours. This is not going away.

 

[Coach Parker]

Demko was not the sole reason for the Canucks success last year and him not being in Vezina-form is not the reason they've fallen off this year. It is pretty much down to injuries (their whole core has been off for weeks to months), the defense and the fact that the core, when they have been healthy, has embarrassingly underperformed outside of Hughes.

Last season vs. this season (credit to sting101):

Boeser..........46 - 27 = (-19)
Miller............49 - 29 = (-20)
Pettersson....57 - 29 = (-28)
Hronek..........36 - 09 = (-27)

Figuring out why these guys have dropped off so much is the secret ingredient to turning this around. You'd think Boeser would be playing for a contract and one of the two C would be proving their value. Miller does in the playoffs though, so I'd hold off judgment on him until the final handshake.

Visually, it just looks like Pettersson is playing himself out of town with his efforts since signing to many fans.

 

[remer]

Pettersson 10 goals 19 assists - 29 points
Zacha 10 goals 14 assists- 24 points
Not really that much of a difference in points and Zacha is not having his best year either.
Pettersson at 11.6 million until 2032 is a real ugly contract
Zacha at 4.75 until 2027 is a much better contract.
I think the Bruins will stick with Zacha.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Pettersson 10 goals 19 assists - 29 points
Zacha 10 goals 14 assists- 24 points
Not really that much of a difference in points and Zacha is not having his best year either.
Pettersson at 11.6 million until 2032 is a real ugly contract
Zacha at 4.75 until 2027 is a much better contract.
I think the Bruins will stick with Zacha.

Cool ur right zachas way better, thx for stopping by, adios.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Pettersson 10 goals 19 assists - 29 points
Zacha 10 goals 14 assists- 24 points
Not really that much of a difference in points and Zacha is not having his best year either.
Pettersson at 11.6 million until 2032 is a real ugly contract
Zacha at 4.75 until 2027 is a much better contract.
I think the Bruins will stick with Zacha.

Well that’s excellent! Enjoy him!

 

[Peter Griffin]

Huh. Doesnt have the assets is laughable.

Vancouver apparently wants a replacement center in any return for Pettersson. If Vancouver management isn’t high on Cozens then what can Buffalo offer assuming Tage is off the table?

Said it before on other versions of this proposal but to me this is the most no-brainer accept from both teams. Buffalo consolidates some of its mediocre assets into one good one and gets that second superstar forward it needs, Vancouver turns a poor situation into getting two proven young guys to help their depth.

So Vancouver turns a “superstar” into two “mediocre assets” and that’s considered a “no-brainer”?

 

[sting101]

Figuring out why these guys have dropped off so much is the secret ingredient to turning this around. You'd think Boeser would be playing for a contract and one of the two C would be proving their value. Miller does in the playoffs though, so I'd hold off judgment on him until the final handshake.

Visually, it just looks like Pettersson is playing himself out of town with his efforts since signing to many fans.

Miller missed 10 games and has been playing hurt since camp. Had a wrist /forearm early then the mental health break and since has a neck thing that has been noticeably bothering him. Rumour is that might have been the reason his camp was delayed to get going. He's been gutting through it but has been inconsistent and it's set him and Boeser back to say nothing about his and Pettersson obviously at odds about things which has just added more issues and the drama that hasn't gone away because both are struggling as is the team.

Boeser was badly concussed by Tanner Jeannot early on and for at least 7-10 games after looked pretty bad. he's been scoring and playing better but also caught in the middle of the 2 star C's play and whatever off ice crap that is reality.

It drives me crazy that a 4th line plug can recklessly target the head of a 40 goal scorer get 3 games and then come back and be doing his thing healthy while Boeser is out 7 games and then another 7-10 to get back to speed. NHL is not serious about protecting its stars.....end rant

Pettersson IDK what the hell is going on. He's had some issues with knee tendinitis apparently from Jan 2024 but through it all he's not endearing himself to many. Threatens leaving then signs a massive deal. Goes on to play bad...like really bad and make excuses. Then when you think he will come back this year and at least in the regular season be a force he's just continued with mercurial lackluster performances. Looked weaker and slower to start camp when we were all hoping last playoffs would get him adding some beef and jacked up and has been attacked by Miller and called out by his coach and GM. It's hard to tell if he cares anymore or wants to be in Van.

Demko being out has been a fairly big problem. Early on Lankinen was so good it wasn't worth complaining or making much a fuss over it. Silovs did cost us some pts but he aslo could have been the full time back up without the Demko injury forcing us to get Lankinen. Over the last month Lankinen has been ia large drop off from what we usually get from Demko though so it just adds more negatives

Lastly and maybe even the biggest issue has been the defense. Myers and Soucy both 4/5 D have been used as 2/3s with Hronek out. The decision to walk from both Cole and Zadorov has been a disaster. Juulsen Desharnais Forbort are just awful at doing anything but protecting the house. Can't defend the rush, can't move well enough against the cycle to close it off or regain possession. Cant make a good first pass (Forbort is ok) and above all are just about as useless as can be at doing anything at the offensive blueline other than having their shots blocked or a dump behind the net. It's pretty routine that even a simple high dump to center ice with pressure turns into a board smash and lost possession. It's ugly and was a huge mistake. Cole and Z had poise and made simple calm accurate passes to relieve pressure. These guys are a comedy of errors. Thank F that Hronek is back but even Hughes has been playing now since Xmas with a messed up hand/wrist which has ruined his shot and some of his puckhandling hard passes.

2024 was not our year for issues

As far as Pettersson and Miller if we trade one were done as a contender. Miller is the guy who gets the top C's and has the physicality to deal with it. Pettersson in top form is one of highest P/60 scorers in the NHL. They both flank the PP and PK and drive the bus up front. If you lose one without a comparable C coming back they might as well retool. It's highly doubtful any team is gonna want to welcome potential drama and throw us their best players mid season. if it doesn't resolve on and off ice their will be big changes coming this summer though

 

[Three On Zero]

Umm, why? That makes zero sense. You are doing a public service for all of HF Boards having a single thread capture all the rumours. This is not going away.

What rumours are being captured? This thread is just back and forth on fantasy trade ideas. It has no real sustenance or value.

 

[ginner classic]

What rumours are being captured? This thread is just back and forth on fantasy trade ideas. It has no real sustenance or value.

As opposed to the other threads on here that are all substantiated active trade rumors? There is discussion and rumors in the press daily. Miller and Petey are 1 and 2 on the Athletic trade board. It functions as a catch all. If you don't like it, don't engage maybe?

Insider: Canucks Holding Up The Trade Market

The Vancouver Canucks are holding up the NHL trade market as teams across the league await clarity on the futures of J.T. Miller and Elias P...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Avalanche Rumors: Colorado Linked To Canucks' J.T. Miller

J.T. Miller's name continues to surface in trade rumors as the Vancouver Canucks face a tumultous season and explore potential roster change...

www.nhltraderumors.me

 

[ginner classic]

There is smoke to the Elias Pettersson-J.T. Miller fire tied to the New Jersey Devils

Listen, we don't think the New Jersey Devils have any chance to actually get Elias Pettersson. They could make the money work, but it would remove all maneuvera

pucksandpitchforks.com

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

There is smoke to the Elias Pettersson-J.T. Miller fire tied to the New Jersey Devils

Listen, we don't think the New Jersey Devils have any chance to actually get Elias Pettersson. They could make the money work, but it would remove all maneuvera

pucksandpitchforks.com

Finally the Hughes brothers will all be united in Vancouver.

 

[MagnumForce2]

What rumours are being captured? This thread is just back and forth on fantasy trade ideas. It has no real sustenance or value.

Spot on
It’s been over a month since this surfaced.

 

[Three On Zero]

As opposed to the other threads on here that are all substantiated active trade rumors? There is discussion and rumors in the press daily. Miller and Petey are 1 and 2 on the Athletic trade board. It functions as a catch all. If you don't like it, don't engage maybe?

Insider: Canucks Holding Up The Trade Market

The Vancouver Canucks are holding up the NHL trade market as teams across the league await clarity on the futures of J.T. Miller and Elias P...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Avalanche Rumors: Colorado Linked To Canucks' J.T. Miller

J.T. Miller's name continues to surface in trade rumors as the Vancouver Canucks face a tumultous season and explore potential roster change...

www.nhltraderumors.me

Your Colorado link is referencing 2023……

 

[Peter Griffin]

Vancouver management may have questions on Cozens, but the question is: will another team offer a better center with upside?

(I'm assuming that Vancouver is in a position where they feel that Miller-Pettersson is not going to work moving forward)

That’s why it’s being reported as more likely that the Canucks will move Miller, and not Pettersson, if it comes down to it. If you move Pettersson and keep Miller, you’re basically committing to going all in during Miller’s remaining “good years”.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Your Colorado link is referencing 2023……

Its referring to previous interest.

 

[Jacob582]

That’s why it’s being reported as more likely that the Canucks will move Miller, and not Pettersson, if it comes down to it. If you move Pettersson and keep Miller, you’re basically committing to going all in during Miller’s remaining “good years”.

I would keep Pettersson too, but Miller's NMC complicates things.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

What rumours are being captured? This thread is just back and forth on fantasy trade ideas. It has no real sustenance or value.

If that's the case just shut down the whole trade board lol

 

[Peter Griffin]

I would keep Pettersson too, but Miller's NMC complicates things.

Sure, but they’re probably better off moving Miller and taking whatever the return is over moving Pettersson, taking on cap once you get Byram signed, and downgrading at C by a large margin.

Ultimately, what management needs to do, is upgrade the 2nd defensive pairing before making a decision. Pettersson is largely playing with Soucy/Myers/Desharnais/Forbort and that’s a huge detriment to being able to provide offense. Willander should help out there hopefully as early as March, but they desperately need another capable puck mover on that 2nd pairing.

 

[ginner classic]

Your Colorado link is referencing 2023……

It's new and read the article.

If that's the case just shut down the whole trade board lol

100%.

There is a classic persona here that tries to limit discussion when they don't like the content. This board is all about conjecture. This particular subject is an active point of discussion in the media. Daily.

Just bizarre.

 

[Three On Zero]

Its referring to previous interest.

From 2023. With nothing but speculation that they might be interested now.

 

[The don godfather]

Pettersson 10 goals 19 assists - 29 points
Zacha 10 goals 14 assists- 24 points
Not really that much of a difference in points and Zacha is not having his best year either.
Pettersson at 11.6 million until 2032 is a real ugly contract
Zacha at 4.75 until 2027 is a much better contract.
I think the Bruins will stick with Zacha.

Zacha with that contract is probably the best bargain center out there . He gets 50 points a year at 4 75 aav.

 

[kdog82]

When did JT Miller become Connor McDavid?

 

[Nocashstyle]

Zacha with that contract is probably the best bargain center out there . He gets 50 points a year at 4 75 aav.

Lol

 

[TheNumber4]

With Quinn Hughes also being fed up with JT miller. Have to think it’s Jt miller being shipped and not EP40 no?

 

[Peter Griffin]

With Quinn Hughes also being fed up with JT miller. Have to think it’s Jt miller being shipped and not EP40 no?

I think that’s always been the thought. The EP stuff just seems like a smokescreen to try to get better offers for Miller.